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balistafreak posted:I hate nullsec politics on a matter of principle, though.
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balistafreak posted:stuff I was there, didn't save your corpse from fc who is gay, so rip
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Jan 31, 2016 16:19
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:yeah cause that's what the average person in goonfleet or karma has to worry about, politics Find me a person who unironically enjoyed the mechanics of a huge, politics-fueled fleet fight and we'll find us a liar. I'm sure the schemers and diplomats are having their own version of fun, but the idea of being CTA'd for some big fight coming up and then having to sit through hours of TIDI "because it's important for the corp/alliance" is enough for me to never even consider applying to GSF proper. That, and I know from enough MMOs with goons that the average line goon is just as bad, if not worse, than a pubbie in terms of "how smart" and "how pleasant to be around". I don't doubt that there's :other: fun stuff to do in null besides big TIDI fights, but I hate the idea so much that I'm not even willing to entertain the possibility. I just want to scam people, and highsec has the highest concentration of stupid bears to be cheated.  Picrelated, it's a picture of a collection of stolen missioner ships about two years old (the hangar has since grown much larger in size). Every single ship is from a unique mark, still fitted exactly the way it was received. You can't get that kind of enjoyment flying in GSF fleets.
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Jan 31, 2016 16:24
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No one has ever, and could ever, force you to do anything you silly dipshit. Irony being we're just about the only group in Eve to never call a CTA or mandate attendance. But I guess you're still on highsec narrative.
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Jan 31, 2016 16:36
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how about a screenshot with the current domi model hey?
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Khablam posted:No one has ever, and could ever, force you to do anything you silly dipshit. Irony being we're just about the only group in Eve to never call a CTA or mandate attendance. But I guess you're still on highsec narrative. Social pressure is a helluva thing. I've heard enough griping and groaning about the latest "man I was up until __________ because I had to shoot a structure/make a reinforcement timer/stick with a committed fleet that escalated and went to TIDI/stay with a roam". Sure, there's a narrative of "we don't force anyone to do anything", but in every organization/guild/clan/whatever there's expectations and a culture to help out the guy next to you and listen to some degree about what anyone in leadership says, and they felt it, they felt that they "had to" do things they didn't want to and/or like. Don't tell me that doesn't exist in GSF, because otherwise GSF would never have gotten anything done. You might not call it a CTA and you might not mandate attendance, but at the end of the day there's going to be big group stuff happening that people will be getting involved with and unfortunately 100% of that is so unappealing to me I really just want to distance myself from it as far as possible. To make an analogy, I consider big nullsec stuff to be like a cult that you absolutely cannot stomach the idea of. The people in the cult might be super pleasant and cool outside of that cult, but at the end of the day the fact that they're in that cult bothers you so much that you just can't bring yourself to become extremely close friends with them, the kind who would be your best man at a wedding or give you a place to sleep when your house burns down, because you know that inevitably the cult is going to become part of that friendship; because it's such a big part of the other person's life, befriending them means getting involved with that cult to some degree. Not saying that GSF is a cult (lol) but that's just how I feel.
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Jan 31, 2016 16:54
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balistafreak posted:
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Jan 31, 2016 16:57
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Not saying that 
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It's a poor analogy. I know it's hard to believe on the internet, and that tone doesn't really transfer well in text, but here the platitude of "not saying _____ but _______" is actually being used to self-deprecate here, not to "talk poo poo and pretend to be nice about it", believe it or not. Maybe I should file with GSF anyways though. inb4 J4G
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Jan 31, 2016 17:03
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I mean, you could just not go on mainfleet stuff and do sig stuff that you find interesting but 
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Jan 31, 2016 18:11
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I uh, have been in and out of gf for a decade and I've gone on less than 50 fleets
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Jan 31, 2016 18:13
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Also gay space politics only say who you fight, not how or when And literally nobody of worth gives a poo poo if you go on fleets if you're in goonfleetwaffe, they get broadcast for all hands on deck but there's no consequences to ignoring them
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Jan 31, 2016 18:19
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Basically you're a outsider with a dumbass opinion, because you don't know any better
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Jan 31, 2016 18:21
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balistafreak posted:Social pressure is a helluva thing. I've heard enough griping and groaning about the latest "man I was up until __________ because I had to shoot a structure/make a reinforcement timer/stick with a committed fleet that escalated and went to TIDI/stay with a roam". That's their own loving choice and much like "oh man I'm tired because I was up all night playing Fallout 4" it's largely an admission of wanting to do said thing, wrapped in the guise of a complaint. You'll find more "gently caress main fleet" sentiment in GSF than you'll find the opposite, by a wide margin, so if anything the "social pressure" would be to kow tow to not going on fleets. If you join and openly and loudly proclaim that you will never go on any fleet, ever, nothing happens to you. As DT said this is the outsiders opinion on something they know nothing about; this particular opinion is largely absent from people with any experience of 0.0 and is usually parroted by NPC alts on Eve-O who pretend to be in the know but actually just mine in highsec.
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Jan 31, 2016 19:11
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balistafreak posted:Social pressure is a helluva thing. I've heard enough griping and groaning about the latest "man I was up until __________ because I had to shoot a structure/make a reinforcement timer/stick with a committed fleet that escalated and went to TIDI/stay with a roam". Sure, there's a narrative of "we don't force anyone to do anything", but in every organization/guild/clan/whatever there's expectations and a culture to help out the guy next to you and listen to some degree about what anyone in leadership says, and they felt it, they felt that they "had to" do things they didn't want to and/or like. Don't tell me that doesn't exist in GSF, because otherwise GSF would never have gotten anything done. You might not call it a CTA and you might not mandate attendance, but at the end of the day there's going to be big group stuff happening that people will be getting involved with and unfortunately 100% of that is so unappealing to me I really just want to distance myself from it as far as possible. other membercorps in gsf might have attendance/whatever but goonwaffe proper doesn't hell while we were waging war on TEST space I still had an alt in their wormhole guild making cash money to fund my main killing test in blackops literally nobody cares what you do
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Read the replies. Went to go shoot things with my GSF friend ("friend") who fed me all this crap. Turns out he'd been using "oh man I HAVE to go on this GSF thing today/this evening/this weekend" as an excuse to gently caress off and do serious real life things, because for some reason he got the idea that I wouldn't understand him having a life, because for some reason being a functional adult and doing things like job interviews, classes, and going out with girls is something shameful. For more than three years. He didn't want me to join GSF because he got the impression I'd stop the highsec scamming business to "join him" and he liked doing that more than GSF fleets with his EVE time, which I don't doubt. He'd basically led me to believe he was some low level FC/whatever and was constantly "on the clock", when in reality all he does is shitpost all the time and welp the occasional (reimbursed) ship. I am now slightly irate with him, to put things lightly. Can't trust goons IRL either, apparently. If I had a dumbass opinion, it's because I've been getting lied to my face by a friend I trusted for years. Well, that makes it sound more serious than it is. inb4 "why did you trust a goon"
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Jan 31, 2016 21:06
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balistafreak posted:Find me a person who unironically enjoyed the mechanics of a huge, politics-fueled fleet fight and we'll find us a liar. I'm sure the schemers and diplomats are having their own version of fun, but the idea of being CTA'd for some big fight coming up and then having to sit through hours of TIDI "because it's important for the corp/alliance" is enough for me to never even consider applying to GSF proper Is this guy for real? 
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Jan 31, 2016 21:15
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crew posted:Is this guy for real? He was real until his friend told him all that poo poo about having to constantly fight the good fight out there in good ol' nullsec was all a long con so he could always have a convenient excuse to not do something when he had something real to do instead.
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balistafreak posted:Find me a person who unironically enjoyed the mechanics of a huge, politics-fueled fleet fight and we'll find us a liar. I'm sure the schemers and diplomats are having their own version of fun, but the idea of being CTA'd for some big fight coming up and then having to sit through hours of TIDI "because it's important for the corp/alliance" is enough for me to never even consider applying to GSF proper. That, and I know from enough MMOs with goons that the average line goon is just as bad, if not worse, than a pubbie in terms of "how smart" and "how pleasant to be around". Killing Shrike was fun as gently caress tho.
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Eonwe posted:eve is really bad 16:17:52 :&Haquer: .allkills 16:17:53 .:@digi: (Haquer) Last Hour on TQ: Ship kills: 2361 Pod kills: 1045 NPC kills: 412765 but hi sec is alive and well ?????
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Jan 31, 2016 22:18
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balistafreak posted:Read the replies. Went to go shoot things with my GSF friend ("friend") who fed me all this crap. Turns out he'd been using "oh man I HAVE to go on this GSF thing today/this evening/this weekend" as an excuse to gently caress off and do serious real life things, because for some reason he got the idea that I wouldn't understand him having a life, because for some reason being a functional adult and doing things like job interviews, classes, and going out with girls is something shameful. For more than three years. He didn't want me to join GSF because he got the impression I'd stop the highsec scamming business to "join him" and he liked doing that more than GSF fleets with his EVE time, which I don't doubt. I've missed you balista. You can always come join Shadow Cartel.
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Jan 31, 2016 23:19
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Eonwe posted:eve is really bad Yeah, if only we could spend $15,000 on getting a "completionist*" package for the game, then it'd be fun. *despite being a completionist package, the package does not include all of the ships.
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Jan 31, 2016 23:36
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Unfunny Poster posted:Yeah, if only we could spend $15,000 on getting a "completionist*" package for the game, then it'd be fun. Good news, with SP injection coming, for that much money, you basically can 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cahV83nd7_I
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Jan 31, 2016 23:41
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Kimsemus posted:Good news, with SP injection coming, for that much money, you basically can I wonder if SP injection will actually see a decline in PLEX prices... 
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Jan 31, 2016 23:48
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Siets posted:I wonder if SP injection will actually see a decline in PLEX prices... It's hard to say, the extractor (The injector can be sold for isk, 500k SP at a time) still requires Aurum, so IDK how that's going to affect the PLEX market, I know Aurum tokens have been rising in price pretty steadily though. PLEX prices are already pretty insane though, I think using Aurum was kind of a piss poor idea. Anything that drives up PLEX prices is bad in my mind.
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balistafreak posted:Find me a person who unironically enjoyed the mechanics of a huge, politics-fueled fleet fight and we'll find us a liar. I'm sure the schemers and diplomats are having their own version of fun, but the idea of being CTA'd for some big fight coming up and then having to sit through hours of TIDI "because it's important for the corp/alliance" is enough for me to never even consider applying to GSF proper. That, and I know from enough MMOs with goons that the average line goon is just as bad, if not worse, than a pubbie in terms of "how smart" and "how pleasant to be around". If you need to jack off, you can get porn with a lot less effort than assembling a collection of perfectly good ships to take up hangar space.
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Kiryen posted:If you need to jack off, you can get porn with a lot less effort than assembling a collection of perfectly good ships to take up hangar space. The great thing about EVE is people can play it towards whatever end they choose. 
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balistafreak posted:in reality all he does is shitpost all the time and welp the occasional (reimbursed) ship. Guy is living the highlife
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balistafreak posted:Find me a person who unironically enjoyed the mechanics of a huge, politics-fueled fleet fight and we'll find us a liar. I'm sure the schemers and diplomats are having their own version of fun, but the idea of being CTA'd for some big fight coming up and then having to sit through hours of TIDI "because it's important for the corp/alliance" is enough for me to never even consider applying to GSF proper. That, and I know from enough MMOs with goons that the average line goon is just as bad, if not worse, than a pubbie in terms of "how smart" and "how pleasant to be around". I'm going to call you full of poo poo. I've been with one alliance or another in the Hence your whole argument is bullshit when it come to, "But its important  "And your claim that you can't do this kind of poo poo in GSF, is complete and utter bullshit. You know nothing
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Dalael posted:I'm going to call you full of poo poo. I've been with one alliance or another in the balistafreak posted:Read the replies. Went to go shoot things with my GSF friend ("friend") who fed me all this crap. Turns out he'd been using "oh man I HAVE to go on this GSF thing today/this evening/this weekend" as an excuse to gently caress off and do serious real life things, because for some reason he got the idea that I wouldn't understand him having a life, because for some reason being a functional adult and doing things like job interviews, classes, and going out with girls is something shameful. For more than three years. He didn't want me to join GSF because he got the impression I'd stop the highsec scamming business to "join him" and he liked doing that more than GSF fleets with his EVE time, which I don't doubt.   
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balistafreak posted:Read the replies. Went to go shoot things with my GSF friend ("friend") who fed me all this crap. Turns out he'd been using "oh man I HAVE to go on this GSF thing today/this evening/this weekend" as an excuse to gently caress off and do serious real life things, because for some reason he got the idea that I wouldn't understand him having a life, because for some reason being a functional adult and doing things like job interviews, classes, and going out with girls is something shameful. For more than three years. He didn't want me to join GSF because he got the impression I'd stop the highsec scamming business to "join him" and he liked doing that more than GSF fleets with his EVE time, which I don't doubt. I think you either have lovely friends, or they know better than to spend valuable time with you. Dalael fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Feb 1, 2016 |
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balistafreak posted:Find me a person who unironically enjoyed the mechanics of a huge, politics-fueled fleet fight and we'll find us a liar. I'm sure the schemers and diplomats are having their own version of fun, but the idea of being CTA'd for some big fight coming up and then having to sit through hours of TIDI "because it's important for the corp/alliance" is enough for me to never even consider applying to GSF proper. That, and I know from enough MMOs with goons that the average line goon is just as bad, if not worse, than a pubbie in terms of "how smart" and "how pleasant to be around". Depends, if there's no TiDi, everyone in the winning fleet enjoyed it. If there is TiDi, and Supers are dying, everyone killing supers enjoyed it. Highsec is an interesting place, but most people get tired of taking candy from big dumb babies after a while and move on to more eventful things in-game (or other games). Kimsemus posted:I'm not sure about PL, but I know NCdot pretty much went all in. We didn't hold anything back and really had nothing left to throw into the fight. By the time I had logged in (late US TZ) we were told not to login supers, and Phal had started tallying losses for reimbursement. Anyone saying we weren't hosed from the moment Manny dropped sov is an idiot and a liar. Xolve fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Feb 1, 2016 |
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balistafreak posted:Read the replies. Went to go shoot things with my GSF friend ("friend") who fed me all this crap. Turns out he'd been using "oh man I HAVE to go on this GSF thing today/this evening/this weekend" as an excuse to gently caress off and do serious real life things, because for some reason he got the idea that I wouldn't understand him having a life, because for some reason being a functional adult and doing things like job interviews, classes, and going out with girls is something shameful. For more than three years. He didn't want me to join GSF because he got the impression I'd stop the highsec scamming business to "join him" and he liked doing that more than GSF fleets with his EVE time, which I don't doubt. lol as gently caress
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balistafreak posted:Read the replies. Went to go shoot things with my GSF friend ("friend") who fed me all this crap. Turns out he'd been using "oh man I HAVE to go on this GSF thing today/this evening/this weekend" as an excuse to gently caress off and do serious real life things, because for some reason he got the idea that I wouldn't understand him having a life, because for some reason being a functional adult and doing things like job interviews, classes, and going out with girls is something shameful. For more than three years. He didn't want me to join GSF because he got the impression I'd stop the highsec scamming business to "join him" and he liked doing that more than GSF fleets with his EVE time, which I don't doubt. instead of being mad at him, maybe change yourself to be a better friend that people want to spend time with
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Xolve posted:Anyone saying we weren't hosed from the moment Manny dropped sov is an idiot and a liar Richter Enderas and Miss Bolyai come to mind. Whose character is Miss Bolyai?
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crew posted:Richter Enderas and Miss Bolyai come to mind. Whose character is Miss Bolyai? Agmar, aka the #1 wreck shooter in the world. Also the only guy I know to be banned from PL services for loving with Ander via Twitter.
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Ouch - http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=3942,3943&b=6881900&e=90&t=qbb&r=1&ro=70.93333333333334
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Unfunny Poster posted:Ouch - http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=3942,3943&b=6881900&e=90&t=qbb&r=1&ro=70.93333333333334 Thats quite a dunk 
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