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Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Looks like he's taking pains to ape the stilted writing style rather than do a similar "spare prose, cute pictures" idea, which probably does have a niche.

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Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Nessus posted:

Looks like he's taking pains to ape the stilted writing style

That's his normal authorial voice.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Doc Hawkins posted:

They are a step below genre fiction in literacy-space, but a step above genre comics.

lol no. and i say that as an anime liker

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Literally The Worst posted:

Wow it's crazy that you say that because I sure as hell didn't

Double ironic because I'm literally grumping about people having a false sense of superiority at the same time you claim that I'm looking down my nose at people for not devoting their lives to this hobby

Fun fact I recommend people run far away from this hobby because either you're going to be disgusted and run away anyway or fall in love and have your heart broken every week, nobody should read comics

Also I still don't know what you were trying to prove with that link. Some guy I've never heard of disagrees with me? Okay cool that's never happened before
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Cadre

(It's the only person I know who cares about comics.)

Dr. Video Games 0081
Jan 19, 2005

Literally The Worst posted:

Nah comics are an actual thing I spend most of my time on in some fashion, and the people who think Watchmen is the best superhero comic are the people who don't read comic books they read Graphic Novels

It's good, but it's not the best

What's the best superhero comic? Final Crisis?

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

divabot posted:

Instead, I know of nobody bothering with Aurini of late. However! Our esteemed colleague HBomberGuy has a new video out on the alt-right reaction to Star Wars!

Holy crap I could not stop laughing once it hit the guy whining about having to share his comics and sci-fi with non-white people. :laffo:

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!

Night10194 posted:

That's his normal authorial voice.

That really is his normal authorial voice. It reads like the author of the LessWrong Sequences trying to write porn of an underage girl and thinking "loving nailed it."

GottaPayDaTrollToll
Dec 3, 2009

by Lowtax

icantfindaname posted:

lol no. and i say that as an anime liker

Yeah, in terms of quality and subject matter, LNs are closer to webcomics than to actual comic books.

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

Nessus posted:

Looks like he's taking pains to ape the stilted writing style rather than do a similar "spare prose, cute pictures" idea, which probably does have a niche.

The best part about this is that he's not even aping the stilted writing style properly. I linked this thing to a friend of mine who does professional Japanese translation, and she pointed out that his awkward-translation-isms don't derive from the Japanese structure/phrasing/idiom issues that create authentic awkward translations, presumably because Yud doesn't know enough Japanese to have any grasp of them. He's basically just cargo-culting it, because why would a smart person ever have to do research?

The sad thing is that, based on Yud's immense problems with word bloat, he'd probably benefit as a writer by trying to write something like how he describes light novels: bare-bones prose, easy-to-read style, all plot/no filler. Instead, he apes the stupidest and most shallow elements, and he doesn't even do that right. It's like if someone praised Harlequin romance novels for their pure focus on the emotional relationship between the leads, then wrote a "homage" that was all garbage filler plot and bad sex scenes, and also they were making up a whole new set of bizarre genital euphemisms as they went.

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!

Dr. Video Games 0081 posted:

What's the best superhero comic? Final Crisis?

All Star Superman.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Nessus posted:

Looks like he's taking pains to ape the stilted writing style rather than do a similar "spare prose, cute pictures" idea, which probably does have a niche.

No this is just how Yudkowsky writes. This could just be a Sequence talking about schoolgirl masturbation or whatever.

Peztopiary
Mar 16, 2009

by exmarx

Literally The Worst posted:

Also note I never said it was bad, just that people who think it's the end all be all of superhero comics are kinda fuckin wrong and also it kinda ruined superhero comics for thirty years and counting, that and Dark Knight Returns which is as important in terms of history and impact and making a statement on the nature of comic books but it's about Batman so it's poo poo (also it's actually poo poo and I hate it)

You're wrong about it and DKR ruining comics, but that's a fight for another thread I guess.

Jim's Blog is just strange. I appreciate that it's the full panoply of the alt-Right. You've got white nationalists, you've got gay MRAs, you've got a guy who believes in Jewish theocracy. The only people they hate more than each other is every single person one inch to the left of them. They're so cheerful about how they're going to murder one another after they get done with the rest of us.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Dr. Video Games 0081 posted:

What's the best superhero comic? Final Crisis?

While I prefer Morrison to Moore in general, FC is a loving mess

I would have a hard time picking one best superhero comic because there's so many reasons to give it to one. Like, Action Comics #1 created the template that's still in use today, but Fantastic Four #1 shattered that template and gave birth to a whole new style, and Dark Knight Returns and Watchmen both were a major influence on comics pretty much from the minute they hit and continue to be today. poo poo I've argued for Ninja Turtles #1 before for being the spark that set off the indie boom that lead to Image being a thing. I mean, I know what my personal favorites are (All-Star Superman is on there, for sure, with the issue of Spider-Man where he lifts an entire building off himself) but I wouldn't want to even think about calling something the best

Whoa look at that nuanced answer that you weren't expecting when you made your pissy one liner almost like this is a thing I've thought about because comics are just what I do

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!

Literally The Worst posted:

I mean, I know what my personal favorites are (All-Star Superman is on there, for sure,
Ahahah awesome.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Peztopiary posted:

You're wrong about it and DKR ruining comics, but that's a fight for another thread I guess.

Jim's Blog is just strange. I appreciate that it's the full panoply of the alt-Right. You've got white nationalists, you've got gay MRAs, you've got a guy who believes in Jewish theocracy. The only people they hate more than each other is every single person one inch to the left of them. They're so cheerful about how they're going to murder one another after they get done with the rest of us.

DC has spent thirty years chaining itslef to a book that sprang from the realization that Batman is never actually allowed to change and continues to gently caress up what makes a book Mature and For Adults to this day (hint it's not people losing arms and titties everywhere) to the point where they keep loving asking Miller to do sequels when both of the ones we have so far are about how stupid DC is for chaining itslef to DKR

You'd lose that fight is what I'm sayin

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Lady Naga posted:

Ahahah awesome.

The lead up to "you're stronger than you think you are" is literally what I use to explain why I fuckin love Superman even though I hate his comics for the most part to customers at the shop I work at

Count Chocula
Dec 25, 2011

WE HAVE TO CONTROL OUR ENVIRONMENT
IF YOU SEE ME POSTING OUTSIDE OF THE AUSPOL THREAD PLEASE TELL ME THAT I'M MISSED AND TO START POSTING AGAIN
rear end is the only Superman comic you need to read, but I'm a Morrison fanboy.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Count Chocula posted:

rear end is the only Superman comic you need to read, but I'm a Morrison fanboy.

Nah you definitely should read Silver Age superman, after they sued Captain Marvel out of existence and then hired the guy who was writing him to write Superman, whose name is escaping me right now. Morrison pulls from those stories a lot in rear end much like he pulls from Silver Age Batman stories for his Batman run

Edit it was Otto Binder and they basically asked him to do all the things he did with Captain Marvel, mostly the creation of a "family", but with Superman instead of not-Superman

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Literally The Worst posted:

Nah you definitely should read Silver Age superman, after they sued Captain Marvel out of existence and then hired the guy who was writing him to write Superman, whose name is escaping me right now. Morrison pulls from those stories a lot in rear end much like he pulls from Silver Age Batman stories for his Batman run

Edit it was Otto Binder and they basically asked him to do all the things he did with Captain Marvel, mostly the creation of a "family", but with Superman instead of not-Superman
What's with you and final periods?

Also lol @ cartoons

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Cingulate posted:

What's with you and final periods?

Also lol @ cartoons

I'm posting from my phone, which is also the only reason you're getting caps

Also you're literally the jackass I was talking about when this all started, kudos

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Doc Hawkins posted:

You couldn't be more wrong.

It's not a "harem," they sleep with other people too.

Is this a joke or are you seriously defending him? Do you really believe an emotionally stunted narcissist like that guy could have a non-exploitative sexual relationship? I doubt he thinks of them as equals as he believes he has no equals.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!
dear god shut up about your western comics, only manga is on topic for this thread and then only if it's been made into an anime with technologically advanced reactionary hordes and of course underage girls masturbating in detail written in the style of the Sequences: Pounded In The Butt By My Own Girl with Red Tidday Up and White Tidday Down Corrupted by the Internet who is the Summoned Hero?! by Roko's Tinglisk

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

divabot posted:

dear god shut up about your western comics, only manga is on topic for this thread and then only if it's been made into an anime with technologically advanced reactionary hordes and of course underage girls masturbating in detail written in the style of the Sequences

Actually you know what One Punch Man is the best superhero comic

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!

Literally The Worst posted:

Actually you know what One Punch Man is the best superhero comic

I will pay that one sir.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Jack Gladney posted:

Is this a joke

Yep!

Dr. Video Games 0081
Jan 19, 2005
I don't like Dark Knight Returns and I don't think I've ever read a Batman comic that really stood up to the hype. The Killing Joke is horrible. Grant Morrison's Batman comics aren't even that good. All-Star Superman, Final Crisis, and parts of 52 were for me, great stuff. Sticking with Grant Morrison, Vimanarama and the first Seaguy series were some of my faves.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Dr Pepper posted:

Holy crap I could not stop laughing once it hit the guy whining about having to share his comics and sci-fi with non-white people. :laffo:

hbomberguy's stuff on the alt-right/gamergate is always pretty funny, but Rocking MrE has always struck me as particularly weird. He isn't white or at least really doesn't look white, and yet he's a white supremacist.

TheIllestVillain
Dec 27, 2011

Sal, Wyoming's not a country

Terrible Opinions posted:

hbomberguy's stuff on the alt-right/gamergate is always pretty funny, but Rocking MrE has always struck me as particularly weird. He isn't white or at least really doesn't look white, and yet he's a white supremacist.

it's a relatively common thing in Southern Europe

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
A lot of people who'd in the US be classified as Black have much lighter skin than many Greeks or Spaniards.

(Race is not a biologically valid construct.)

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



I know race isn't a biologically support thing really, but it's just wierd that someone no visibly not white is claiming to be white.

Soviet Commubot
Oct 22, 2008


Terrible Opinions posted:

I know race isn't a biologically support thing really, but it's just wierd that someone no visibly not white is claiming to be white.

I don't know where you're from but this dude looks pretty white to me.

e: And I'm from the deepest, whitest reaches of the Midwest

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Admittedly I am from Mormonland, but he looks like a Turkish person to me. Especially in the Star Wars video he looks way darker than the latino character he claims is not white enough in the Force Awakens.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
Gee it sure is getting racially weird in here.

Next people will start using words like "swarthy"

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE
Maybe they identify as a trans cracker.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Cingulate posted:

A lot of people who'd in the US be classified as Black have much lighter skin than many Greeks or Spaniards.

(Race is not a biologically valid construct.)
Ah, but what about all the dark enlightenment bloggers who disagree, and who need some advocacy in this thread? Or are you breaking the streak?

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Dr. Video Games 0081 posted:

What's the best superhero comic? Final Crisis?

Yes.

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Terrible Opinions posted:

Admittedly I am from Mormonland, but he looks like a Turkish person to me
Americans are so weird about race.

Nessus posted:

Ah, but what about all the dark enlightenment bloggers who disagree, and who need some advocacy in this thread? Or are you breaking the streak?
If you're trying to make another dumb argument, you'll have to be a bit more explicit for me to care.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Stop trolling

neonnoodle
Mar 20, 2008

by exmarx
Race makes literally no sense hth

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Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Cingulate posted:

Americans are so weird about race.
If you're trying to make another dumb argument, you'll have to be a bit more explicit for me to care.
Perhaps it is you who is dumb, and also cares. I don't think we can just reject that argument out of hand, because there is something real behind it

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