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klen dool posted:"transgender activist who goes by the gender-neutral pronoun "they"" - how is any of that relevant?!?! It isn't, which is what Scout + some other trans people I follow on twitter were bitching about. Well that and the whole police intimidation thing.
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I could see the herald being called insensitive if they'd called a transperson "they" without explanation  klen dool posted:gently caress the police.
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Exclamation Marx posted:I could see the herald being called insensitive if they'd called a transperson "they" without explanation I haven't seen anyone making that criticism about 3 news, radionz and stuff.
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Exclamation Marx posted:I could see the herald being called insensitive if they'd called a transperson "they" without explanation
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Jan 28, 2016 09:35
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Or unusual at all People say "they said" all the time to refer to one person!
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Jan 28, 2016 09:37
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I like how the second paragraph and the photo caption are the exact same thing.
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Jan 28, 2016 10:59
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klen dool posted:"transgender activist who goes by the gender-neutral pronoun "they"" - how is any of that relevant?!?! It's relevant if they want middle ennzud to believe that kid deserved being hassled by the police for no apparent reason.
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Jan 28, 2016 12:31
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So, Richie McCaw or Louise Nicholas for NZer of the year?
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Jan 29, 2016 06:38
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Richie. Rugby over all, maaaaaaate.
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Jan 29, 2016 06:59
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there's only been one woman who's won, so take a wild stab in the dark
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Jan 29, 2016 09:04
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https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/grateful-refugees-welcomed-to-aotearoa-that-powhiri-had-something-magic-about-it Nowhere near enough, obviously, but this is  as hell
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Jan 29, 2016 09:08
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May they stay safe, secure and ever-welcome.
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Jan 29, 2016 12:01
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11582567 I'm quite pleased Labour has started making bold policy announcements, even if they're going to be greeted by complete derision from most of the electorate, it seems?
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Jan 31, 2016 03:03
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Depends how they're getting the money to pay for it. They'll face that argument that free university uses poor people's tax money to educate people already at an advantage
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Jan 31, 2016 03:39
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Use money earmarked by the government for tax cuts, according to the article.
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Jan 31, 2016 03:41
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How are they going to win the election without using tax cuts to buy it?
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Jan 31, 2016 03:42
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Hey yo chopper asked how they're getting money not 'does their plan make sense' or any election winning nonsense 
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Jan 31, 2016 03:52
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We really need a higher income tax bracket. The highest being 33% on income above $70k is atrocious.
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Jan 31, 2016 10:45
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Yeah and considering that's only 3% higher than the bracket from 48k-70k its doubly ridiculous. Labour could pay for half of this tertiary plan by making a 40% tax on income over $150k, and if would only impact 1% of the country.
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Dear god I've been forced to catch snippets of Paul Henry this morning, the man is a loving irredeemable moron. Going on and on about how unfair this free education thing would be to people who have already studied, making them second class citizens. He had Andrew Little on and just didn't listen to a word he said and kept making the same stupid arguments both to him and after he left. Then just random racism, direct quote being: "You should have just pretended to not be able to speak english, that's what those people do. It's like "Could you please fill out this form?" "Hurro?" loving hell I want to die
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But making people borrow in the first place when their parents had it funded wasn't unfair because ??? this proposed change isn't totally 100% perfect I guess we'd better just do nothing at all until we can solve all our problems at once for ever
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mirthdefect posted:But making people borrow in the first place when their parents had it funded wasn't unfair because ??? It's up to the poor people to change things for themselves im(s)o. If only they just stopped smoking and/or drinking all week they would be able to afford the same education for their kids and themselves, while also working full time for minimum wage.
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Jan 31, 2016 20:59
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The concept of trying to leave a better future for the next generation, or hell even an equivalent future in this case, is oppressive to my individualistic man feelings
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Jan 31, 2016 21:01
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Paul Henry in the early 1900s. What the gently caress, we can't make child labour laws, I'M not a child anymore, this is making me a second class citizen!
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Jan 31, 2016 21:08
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You really have to be such a literal baby to whine about this poo poo. "How come that kid gets all those toys and breast milk and diaper changes while here I am working and going to the toilet by myself like some kind of chump?"
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Jan 31, 2016 21:09
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He's just saying what we're all thinking
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Jan 31, 2016 21:48
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Cause all of us are stupid baby men who cut through the nonsense of complex thoughts and ideas with straight talk no bullshit anti pc real person questions about whether we can really afford to not be a bunch of rear end in a top hat pieces of poo poo and are we punishing success?
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Jan 31, 2016 21:48
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PS: gently caress asians
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Jan 31, 2016 21:48
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Maybe if you went out and killed paul henry instead of just smoking and posting in threads all day you wouldn't be poor. No work ethic.
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Jan 31, 2016 21:59
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Have you tried not listening to Paul Henry?
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Jan 31, 2016 22:15
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When did universities start hiking their fees? He would have probably been in the age group that benefited from free / low fee uni education no? I like how this will be something some of my family will be against when I know they had free (or nearly free) tertiary education.
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Jan 31, 2016 22:17
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Vagina Jones posted:When did universities start hiking their fees? He would have probably been in the age group that benefited from free / low fee uni education no? It has been steadily increasing, but IIRC, tertiary education fees became a thing in the 70s. Or at least legal barriers for universities to crank them up were removed under Muldoon.
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Jan 31, 2016 22:26
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Robo Captain posted:Have you tried not listening to Paul Henry? Yes that is what I normally do
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Jan 31, 2016 22:37
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Fees were a flat rate of about $130 in 1989 and in 1990 Labour raised it to $1250. The next year National removed the flat rate and let universities set their own fees and the inivisible hand has been doing its thing ever since.
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I like how Steven Joyce responded on twitter with this gem: https://twitter.com/stevenljoyce/status/693599415399919616 "Labour more desperate than we all thought. Stealing massively expensive InternetMana policy on "free tertiary education" from last election" While at the same time Stuff comes out with "The Art of the U-Turn" showing when National adopted a number of large policies http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...m-national-ones
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Vagina Jones posted:When did universities start hiking their fees? He would have probably been in the age group that benefited from free / low fee uni education no? Dared to have a conversation about this with a colleague today who's about that age. She thinks it's unfair for her taxes to pay for people to get free university because you don't need a degree to work in our field and if "we didn't benefit from the system, why should we have to pay for it."  So essentially, people don't deserve free or low-cost education because when she had the option, she chose no to take it...? Ok cool.
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Jan 31, 2016 23:50
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"Oh no please don't give me a pension, it's unfair for the people not using it to pay for me" - something these idiots will not be saying in 5-10 years.
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fong posted:Depends how they're getting the money to pay for it. They'll face that argument that free university uses poor people's tax money to educate people already at an advantage That's a loving dumb argument, but that doesn't mean it wont be used. It implies that rich people don't pay tax, it ignores the fact that mass higher education has the effect of flattening wealth distribution (meaning no more truly rich people), and implies that poor people wont go to uni.
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Have they given any details on what will/won't be covered? I'm assuming it's only course fees, and that allowances & loans would still be available for living costs/textbooks?
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klen dool posted:That's a loving dumb argument, but that doesn't mean it wont be used. It implies that rich people don't pay tax, it ignores the fact that mass higher education has the effect of flattening wealth distribution (meaning no more truly rich people), and implies that poor people wont go to uni. I think they've sidestepped the 'poor people's tax monies are paying for middle class education' by including more forms of tertiary education than university, ie. apprenticeships.
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