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The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
No I agree, this is a really weird-rear end discussion. A bunch of people here sound like my grandpa asking if my brother's new girlfriend was Persian.

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Merdifex
May 13, 2015

by Shine
It's almost like the concept(s) of Whiteness is bullshit.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!
please stop talking about race and instead talk about RED TIDDAY UP WHITE TIDDAY DOWN again

no hold on

Dammit Who?
Aug 30, 2002

may microbes, bacilli their tissues infest
and tapeworms securely their bowels digest

Antivehicular posted:

Has Yudkowsky ever consumed any media aimed at a target audience beyond middle school? I'm serious here.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/11/28/no-death-no-taxes posted:

I suggested that there was something to be gained from staying in school, reading great works of literature and philosophy, and arguing about ideas with people who have different views. After all, this had been the education of Peter Thiel. In “The Diversity Myth,” he and Sacks wrote, “The antidote to the multiculture is civilization.” I didn’t disagree. Wasn’t the world of libertarian entrepreneurs one more self-enclosed cell of identity politics?

Around the table, the response was swift and negative. Yudkowsky reported that he was having a “visceral reaction” to what I’d said about great books.

I think we can reasonably assume that no he has not, unless he was lying then for ~signaling~ purposes, which seems unlikely.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Dammit Who? posted:

I think we can reasonably assume that no he has not, unless he was lying then for ~signaling~ purposes, which seems unlikely.

My favorite part is right after that

quote:

Nosek was visibly upset: in high school, in Illinois, he had failed an English class because the teacher had said that he couldn’t write. If something like the Thiel Fellowships had existed, he and others like him could have been spared a lot of pain.

This guy failed an English class in loving high school, and he has still not gotten over it now that he has more money than most people will ever see in their lives.

He probably can't write, incidentally. Yudkowsky certainly can't.

Merdifex
May 13, 2015

by Shine
Your daily grimbertarian hot take.

https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/693960168929955841

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

You gotta watch out for those spore people. That Fortitude Save is surprisingly easy to fool, and at any moment, your DM might declare your character is infected and attacks the party.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006


...WASSSS ONCE-SSSSS A MAAAAANNNN.....

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


That guy's avatar is from Tsai Chih Chung's Zhuang Zhi comics and it's getting me down to imagine The Ziz saying that kinda stuff. :(

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Doc Hawkins posted:

That guy's avatar is from Tsai Chih Chung's Zhuang Zhi comics and it's getting me down to imagine The Ziz saying that kinda stuff. :(

Zhuang Zhi's lost works were all complaining about sjws and progs.

Which just proves he was ahead of his time, as neither thing existed during the 4th century BC

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Jack Gladney posted:

...WASSSS ONCE-SSSSS A MAAAAANNNN.....
Nah, that's Michelle they say that about.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

The Vosgian Beast posted:

You gotta watch out for those spore people. That Fortitude Save is surprisingly easy to fool, and at any moment, your DM might declare your character is infected and attacks the party.

I thought Hillary was supposed to be a Draco-Reptilian, not a Fungoid Sporequeen.

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Any funny Dork Enlightened responses to the Oscar thing?

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!
LessWrong may be a zombie site and know it, but the neoreactionary downvote squad is still hard at work.

edit: hypotheses on what went wrong with LessWrong and how to reinvigorate it. Note that none of them are "the Sequences completely fall apart under critical examination" or "Roko's Basilisk AHAHAHA" or "no thank you I think your cult may not be for me." Note also the phrasing of the problem as LW being too active.

divabot has a new favorite as of 13:59 on Feb 1, 2016

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

divabot posted:

please stop talking about race and instead talk about RED TIDDAY UP WHITE TIDDAY DOWN again

no hold on

Honestly, it's kind of sad. To see someone holding themselves out as a great thinker or whatever and it just turns out they're basically just Imari with a slightly bigger and more self-serious cult following.

Twerkteam Pizza
Sep 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer

Literally The Worst posted:

Also I still don't know what you were trying to prove with that link. Some guy I've never heard of disagrees with me? Okay cool that's never happened before

Adam Cadre makes text adventures for a living. I dunno what he has to do with comics but his games are really good

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Twerkteam Pizza posted:

Adam Cadre makes text adventures for a living
I'm not sure he ever actually made substantial money from his text adventures.

In a very slightly NRx related aspect of his life, he used to mainly live on being a supposedly really good SAT prep teacher, and later, auditing classes.

Twerkteam Pizza
Sep 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer

Cingulate posted:

I'm not sure he ever actually made substantial money from his text adventures.

In a very slightly NRx related aspect of his life, he used to mainly live on being a supposedly really good SAT prep teacher, and later, auditing classes.

Oh, well, gently caress. I didn't know he was an NRx person (that is very unfortunate), but I know he's won a few XYZZY awards

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012

Twerkteam Pizza posted:

Oh, well, gently caress. I didn't know he was an NRx person (that is very unfortunate), but I know he's won a few XYZZY awards

I don't think Cingulate was saying he was an NrX person, just that SAT tests are slightly more related to the actual subject of the thread than text adventures are.

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Twerkteam Pizza posted:

I didn't know he was an NRx person (that is very unfortunate)
Oh, he is not at all. I'm sorry if I gave that impression.

Check some of his political writings:
http://adamcadre.ac/calendar/14/14723.html
http://adamcadre.ac/calendar/13/13791a.html

Contrast this to how these topics - e.g., Not All X, elites, "signaling" - would be discussed amongst the Dork Enlighteners. Adam Cadre is very much a democratic socialist.

Also Adam Cadre is non-white by at least some definitions of non-white. His brother called himself Raihan Kadri (same name, different spelling).

(I know a lot about the guy because he's one of two people on the internet whose entire blogs I've read.)

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Silver2195 posted:

I don't think Cingulate was saying he was an NrX person, just that SAT tests are slightly more related to the actual subject of the thread than text adventures are.

Yes. (E.g., Scott and Steven Pinker are fairly obsessed with them.)

Eox
Jun 20, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
Apparently ol' Roosh is up to something

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Eox posted:

Apparently ol' Roosh is up to something

You mean this thing? http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2016/02/01/where-is-the-pet-shop-roosh-v-plans-secret-meetups-announces-locations-on-internet/#more-22135

I've been seeing his face on facebook a lot recently in those "keep him away! - sign this petition" updates.

Merdifex
May 13, 2015

by Shine
Scott writes about the class system in America but actually fucks it up by trying to reconcile Moldbug's bullshit "caste" system with an actual analysis of American class.

http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/01/30/staying-classy/

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


massive spider posted:

You mean this thing? http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2016/02/01/where-is-the-pet-shop-roosh-v-plans-secret-meetups-announces-locations-on-internet/#more-22135

I've been seeing his face on facebook a lot recently in those "keep him away! - sign this petition" updates.

some roosh guy posted:

Up to now, the enemy has been able to exert their power by isolating us and attacking with shrieking mobs, but we’ll be able to neutralize that tactic by amassing in high numbers come February 6. I will exact furious retribution upon anyone who challenges you in public on that date (remember to record them).

"There are dozens of us willing to march for the normalization of rape and white supremacy! Dozens!"

Twerkteam Pizza
Sep 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer

Cingulate posted:

Oh, he is not at all. I'm sorry if I gave that impression.

Check some of his political writings:

Oh thank god. Also I don't care what brand of politics he is as long as he's not a closet fascist.

Have you played Narcolepsy? It is my favorite IF game besides Robert Bloch's Amnesia. I haven't met another person yet who likes IF games. Please tell me you like IF games.

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012

Twerkteam Pizza posted:

Oh thank god. Also I don't care what brand of politics he is as long as he's not a closet fascist.

Have you played Narcolepsy? It is my favorite IF game besides Robert Bloch's Amnesia. I haven't met another person yet who likes IF games. Please tell me you like IF games.

I kind of like IF games too. Maybe you should make a thread in Games about them?

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Twerkteam Pizza posted:

Oh thank god. Also I don't care what brand of politics he is as long as he's not a closet fascist.

Have you played Narcolepsy? It is my favorite IF game besides Robert Bloch's Amnesia. I haven't met another person yet who likes IF games. Please tell me you like IF games.
Not really :( I really loved photopia and I've tried a few other of Adam's games (including IIRC Narcolepsy) and all in all found them to be enjoyable experiences, but I've never gotten much out of any non-AC IF games. Not even HGTG.

He's honestly my favourite political writer in the blogging-like media. His series on American presidents reads like what I imagine a campaign writer for Sanders would write like if he knew only smart people were listening.

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Silver2195 posted:

I kind of like IF games too. Maybe you should make a thread in Games about them?
There used to be a Let's Play or somesuch about at least one of AC's IF games, the one where you build a dungeon.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Interactive Fiction loving owns.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Merdifex posted:

Scott writes about the class system in America but actually fucks it up by trying to reconcile Moldbug's bullshit "caste" system with an actual analysis of American class.

http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/01/30/staying-classy/

Less Wrong means never having to say "perhaps I am out of my depth and do not understand what I am talking about in this discussion"

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

So is Slate Star Codex NRx now? I thought he made fun of NRx?

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Tesseraction posted:

So is Slate Star Codex NRx now? I thought he made fun of NRx?

It's been a slow and gradual shift. It seems clearer if you understand the arcane, meta-level, insight porn concept of "your friends can influence you"

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Stare too long into the abyss and the abysmal stuff starts coming from you.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!

Tesseraction posted:

So is Slate Star Codex NRx now? I thought he made fun of NRx?

Not sure I'd call Scott "NRx", but he's way NRx-adjacent, seems to use their ideas as part of his go-to mental toolkit and his comments section is a salon and recruitment ground for them. So, only in practical terms.

Merdifex
May 13, 2015

by Shine

divabot posted:

Not sure I'd call Scott "NRx", but he's way NRx-adjacent, seems to use their ideas as part of his go-to mental toolkit and his comments section is a salon and recruitment ground for them. So, only in practical terms.

He hasn't tried to outright steelman Moldbug before, i dont think.

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
1. Scott is absolutely, beyond doubt, not neoreactionary. He's probably left of the American center on nearly every issue.

2. Scott has a bunch of ideas going against core leftist dogma, and he takes serious neoreaction, instead of just filing it under "insane delusions" like a reasonable person.

Twerkteam Pizza
Sep 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer

Doc Hawkins posted:

Interactive Fiction loving owns.

Yes

Silver2195 posted:

I kind of like IF games too. Maybe you should make a thread in Games about them?

Sure

Twerkteam Pizza
Sep 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer

Silver2195 posted:

I kind of like IF games too. Maybe you should make a thread in Games about them?

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3762899

Please comment to get my thread about IF going.

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taters
Jun 13, 2005

The RooshV thing seems like pretty good trolling to me, aberrant nature of his writings aside. If you actually read the guys announcement, he has no intention of personally attending any of these meetings he is trying to arrange. Not distracted by this fact, multiple petitions have been forwarded to prevent him from entering countries he has no intention of traveling too. The country he actually lives in, Poland, also seems fine with his presence.

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