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paradigmblue
Oct 12, 2003
Grey, every time you bomb Manilla, or any other hex, and don't see any damage, it is not fog of war. You just aren't hitting anything with those bombers. If you were hitting anything, you would get messages in the combat replay, even if they didn't show up in the FOW affected combat report. From what I can see you're not getting either, which means that all that bombing you are doing is ineffectual.

The reason why has everything to do with the altitude that you're bombing at - it looked like 29,000 feet for Manilla - which is far too high to expect any damage. You have to drop your planes down to 15,000 or less to get any sort of reliable result. Yes, this means that you're exposing your planes to anti-aircraft fire, but at least they'll be hitting something. Currently, you're just incurring operations losses with no gain whatsoever.

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TildeATH
Oct 21, 2010

by Lowtax

Leperflesh posted:

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that after your wife goes into labor, there might be the odd day here and there where you don't have time for posting pretend war posts on the internet.

I refuse to believe it. GH will just tell her "The baby is defiantly not coming right now, I can post this turn update."

And then the baby can be all, "SOVIET RESPONSE".

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
It's time to start providing baby name suggestions for Grey (and, I suppose, his wife). I vote for Napoleon Jellicoe Hunter.

Natural 20
Sep 17, 2007

Wearer of Compasses. Slayer of Gods. Champion of the Colosseum. Heart of the Void.
Saviour of Hallownest.

pthighs posted:

It's time to start providing baby name suggestions for Grey (and, I suppose, his wife). I vote for Napoleon Jellicoe Hunter.

Erwin Montegomery GreyHunter

gohuskies
Oct 23, 2010

I spend a lot of time making posts to justify why I'm not a self centered shithead that just wants to act like COVID isn't a thing.

pthighs posted:

It's time to start providing baby name suggestions for Grey (and, I suppose, his wife). I vote for Napoleon Jellicoe Hunter.

Tokyo Bay Fortress

Pimpmust
Oct 1, 2008

CannonFodder posted:

Also in the Allied campaign there was a patrol boat that was attacked for a few weeks on some random atoll and kept dodging the bombs the IJN was dropping on it for some weird reason.

That sounds familiar...



:coffeepal:

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

TildeATH posted:

SOVIET RESPONSE

Defiantly the best possible name for Junior.

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

TildeATH posted:

I refuse to believe it. GH will just tell her "The baby is defiantly not coming right now, I can post this turn update."

And then the baby can be all, "SOVIET RESPONSE".
Goddamned Third Army again and that son-of-a-loving-bitch Patton spawn in Nagano. Grey flips the table.

Pimpmust posted:

That sounds familiar...



:coffeepal:
:allears:

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

Danann posted:

Funny thing about that is that there was this four stacker destroyer called the USS Edsall that was somewhat like this. Except instead of dodging bombs for weeks, the Edsall was dodging shellfire from two battleships and two cruisers for hours until the guy in charge of the task force asked for the Kido Butai to personally dive bomb this one destroyer so their shells can actually hit for once.

Quoting this from a page back. This poo poo is proof that reality is waaay stranger than fiction.

quote:

the Japanese surface vessels (2 cruisers, 2 battleships) fired 1,335 shells at Edsall that afternoon with no more than one or two hits, which failed to stop the destroyer.....Subsequent Japanese navy reports referred to the incident as "a fiasco".

The last survivor of a small US task force basically blunders into the Kido Butai.Realising just how utterly screwed they are, the Edsall puts on a master class in evasion.

Ikasuhito
Sep 29, 2013

Haram as Fuck.

TildeATH posted:

I refuse to believe it. GH will just tell her "The baby is defiantly not coming right now, I can post this turn update."

And then the baby can be all, "SOVIET RESPONSE".

You watch, it will end up were Grey is so busy making updates about a silly game for people on the internet that he will keep having to put off having quality time with junior. It will be like Cat's in the Cradle, but with Lets Plays. It shall be one parts tragic and hilarious.

TildeATH
Oct 21, 2010

by Lowtax

Ikasuhito posted:

You watch, it will end up were Grey is so busy making updates about a silly game for people on the internet that he will keep having to put off having quality time with junior. It will be like Cat's in the Cradle, but with Lets Plays. It shall be one parts tragic and hilarious.

"Sorry dad, I can't visit you in the home right now, I'm too busy LPing Combat Mission: 30 Years War Day By Day"

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer

Grey Hunter posted:



That's a nice big ship.

Almost certainly this one: http://www.wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?59253

8kt cargo and ex(?)-passenger ship, one of a whole bunch of big ships they made for the blue funnel line.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
What are some of the best non-Grey WiTP LPs? Ones that aren't just literally giant walls of fancition but actual game logs like Grey does.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

What are some of the best non-Grey WiTP LPs? Ones that aren't just literally giant walls of fancition but actual game logs like Grey does.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3739706

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


Steinrokkan had a pretty good Japanese one that got abandoned twice. He had invaded the western half of Australia when the LP petered out (for the second time). Shame too, he had a really great style of interspersing gameplay with actual WW2 photography and stories.

You need archives to view the thread now: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3704111

To compare to Grey's progress, but this time in-game (2nd February 1942), Steinrokkan had just taken Rangoon, a theater that otherwise has been silent in this LP so far.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






Hmm, I need more subs here.



Not that I'm complaining about the work of those on station.







Clunk! Mwah ha ha!







We pay another visit to the Philippines.







The reinforcements were trying to path through Singapore, so I've had to land them at Mersing.



Ahh, my first “what the hell!? When did I order this?” moment of the war.



At least I know they have a ton of Banshee's in Port Moresby.



We crack a fort level at Jahore. This means we should be able to clean up here now.



That's two less units to worry about.







This is the cause of those occasional destroyed on ground reports.







Well, the next screen is not going to be pretty.



The worst thing?



ITS BLOODY EMPTY!

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
What on earth were they doing? Pathing home that was never checked?

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
When you create a task force to go somewhere, by default it will turn around and come home when it's done unloading. You have to explicitly click a little bit of text to change it to "stay at destination." You have to do this every time. It is very easy to forget.

Edit: If you look at the task force image in Grey's post a couple above, it says "Retirement allowed." That's the thing you have to click to say "No Retirement allowed."

pthighs fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Feb 2, 2016

AceRimmer
Mar 18, 2009
Such incredible game design. :allears:

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

Fuck you say?!

Banshees. So good!

WITP pathing is very very special. You really have to watch your task forces near the front lines for doing dumb things. And even if you look, they might make their first move before you notice they've left port, in to the waiting arms of the Joker's Exploding Octopus.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






More forces land as we push deeper into the DEI.



Johore may well see a shock attack tomorrow.



Manado falls to our forces.







I'm mainly showing this for something to say.







Looks like we may be seeing some movement in the next few days – our superstack in China has reached its next destination, and will attack tomorrow.



Yesterdays fun continues.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Have you considered lowering bomber height? It's tough to hit anything from 5 miles up.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
That is some drat good shooting from that CD battery.

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

Grey, the reason you're not hitting anything is because you're bombing from the stratosphere.

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!
I'd start by dropping your height by 20,000 and working your way down from that.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

TildeATH posted:

I refuse to believe it. GH will just tell her "The baby is defiantly not coming right now, I can post this turn update."

And then the baby can be all, "SOVIET RESPONSE".

While the labor process can take a while, there's a lot of sitting around, waiting. If he brings his laptop, it shouldn't be an issue.

TildeATH
Oct 21, 2010

by Lowtax

sullat posted:

While the labor process can take a while, there's a lot of sitting around, waiting. If he brings his laptop, it shouldn't be an issue.

Good to know Grey still has a chance to get shivved.

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Textbook example of why casualties mean nothing, what matters are destroyed squads.

The Allies got a tremendous beating here.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007


This was an excellent read, and it's just started back up again for anyone who was following it before.

Actually, GH, I think you'd benefit from taking a look. Saros chooses some different screens to screenshot that you tend not to show, like the tally of aircraft losses. Might be worth the occasional screenshot in this LP?

Lord Koth
Jan 8, 2012

Grey, the AI has its heavy bombers operating at ~12,000 feet lower than your medium and light bombers. You might just want to drop their altitude. A lot.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Climbing to 27,000 feet is gonna take them about half an hour. Then they'll be dying because half those planes don't have good heating or oxygen supplies.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
Grey should go down to 2000 feet, but he's prob a week in advance for this to help.

Ikasuhito
Sep 29, 2013

Haram as Fuck.

First Grey barley clears the treetops and now he is trying to bomb them from orbit. As is appropriate for an Imperial Japaneses officer, its all or nothing with Grey Hunter

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

Fuck you say?!

Grey Hunter Airforce Tactics:

Escorts/fighters - 100 ft
Bombers - 30,000 ft

Seems legit

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

Advanced
Computer Touching


Toilet Rascal
Is this what happened at Pearl Harbor too? This version of Pearl Harbor, I mean.

I'm smiling at the thought of a zero trying to drop a bomb on a battleship and hitting the next island over instead.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

YeOldeButchere posted:

Is this what happened at Pearl Harbor too? This version of Pearl Harbor, I mean.

I'm smiling at the thought of a zero trying to drop a bomb on a battleship and hitting the next island over instead.

You shouldn't be bombing with a Zero in the first place :v:

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

YeOldeButchere posted:

Is this what happened at Pearl Harbor too? This version of Pearl Harbor, I mean.

I'm smiling at the thought of a zero trying to drop a bomb on a battleship and hitting the next island over instead.

It's right there on the first page dude. He bombed at 10,000 ft that day.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






Clunk! Mwah ha ha!







I really hate these guys.



The Allies wake up tot he fact we have troops a few miles from Port Moresby. Okay. Maybe a hundred miles or so, but you know what I mean.



I have some ships about to raid the Makassar straights. This could be fun.



The assault a Johore costs us some vehicles, but I think we can break them here.







We attack to try and reduce their forts – as you can see, the forts are the only think keeping them alive at this time.







Doom stack crush puny Chinese! Time to march northeast!



Another advance of a different scale.



And another destroyed unit.







The Shock attacks seem to have worked, I just need to find some way to get Bataan moving – I'm going to give them some time to recover and then I may have to try a shock attack here. It's going to be costly, but I need to get those forts down!



Its a bad month for our ships.

Grey Hunter fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Feb 4, 2016

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


Lol at the thought of those Claudes plinking away at the armor on a B-17. The "damage" reported there is almost certainly just chipped paint.

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goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Those coastal gunners are pretty good at their jobs. Well done them.

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