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cathead posted:We'll be getting 11 points from Hongmoon 1-5. 5 for level 1, 1 for levels 2 and 4, 2 for levels 3 and 5. Also these patches since beta have actually nerfed summoners primary damage, so it's not some conspiracy theory. They've actually adjusted player arena HP upward since beta so that fights are less bursty, since at 50 the HP to damage ratio is more in favor of HP. I wasn't suggesting a conspiracy or anything. Just that the meta in NA seems kinda fucky after I heard what a great competitive game this is. I did some digging and found out we're currently on the September 2015 patch, which might explain it. My concern is if they're doing these out of sync balance patches it won't really fix a lot. We're getting balanced on content that's not released, which can cause weird things to happen. They did say in this patch though all HM skills will only cost 2 points, so maybe that will help? I don't know. I hope they release the content to get us in sync with Korea fairly quickly. I can't see numbers staying high in the current environment.
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Haroshia posted:I wasn't suggesting a conspiracy or anything. Just that the meta in NA seems kinda fucky after I heard what a great competitive game this is. I did some digging and found out we're currently on the September 2015 patch, which might explain it. My concern is if they're doing these out of sync balance patches it won't really fix a lot. We're getting balanced on content that's not released, which can cause weird things to happen. They did say in this patch though all HM skills will only cost 2 points, so maybe that will help? It's a byproduct of the QoL and mechanics changes in the patches being tied to the balance. They want to make sure we have the most up to date QoL/UI/gameplay stuff, but they still need time to get later content translated and rolled out. I also think they prefer having a steady stream of content to add while the game is in it's infancy, rather than just giving us all of the content at once, which trivalizes and obsoletes a lot of earlier stuff from the get go and then we're just stuck waiting for months for korea + longer for translation. It's kind of a catch-22. If they tried to put us on a much earlier patch to account for lv45 pvp balance, we'd be missing SO MUCH of the QoL stuff we have now and it would require significantly more work to integrate those things at the speed they want to add content at. I don't think some of you guys realize how much the game has changed since then. So the alternative is having us on the later patch already which gets us caught up much quicker and some classes just have to suck it up for awhile in PvP and deal with the balance issues knowing that it'll be much less time to wait. I think the best thing to do in the meantime is just play your preferred class anyway, and be all the better once 50 rolls around and things even out more. It's like Goku training with weighted clothes! 
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Feb 1, 2016 22:55
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It still feels bad to get face rolled by an Assassin that I can't dodge, block, target, or hit. Real bad 
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Feb 1, 2016 23:06
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Lemming posted:It still feels bad to get face rolled by an Assassin that I can't dodge, block, target, or hit. They're getting nothing but buffs in the next patch, and the changing of F with daze on knockdown means you have even less of a chance to break out of their primary combo. 
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Feb 1, 2016 23:10
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For the Jiwan clan GoonWangFu, I made it so anyone rank member and higher can invite, so just as in this thread for one and you should get it. we are at 39 out of 60 total right now.
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Feb 1, 2016 23:13
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Wait, how is F on daze/knockdown getting changed? The vast majority of BM CC is daze or knockdown, if every idiot can't auto-win against me by mashing F every time I swing sord I think that'll help a lot. I can't get combo'd from 100-25 any more than I already am.
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Lemming posted:Wait, how is F on daze/knockdown getting changed? The vast majority of BM CC is daze or knockdown, if every idiot can't auto-win against me by mashing F every time I swing sord I think that'll help a lot. I can't get combo'd from 100-25 any more than I already am. Yeah it's a buff to BMs as well, so that's nice. Patch Notes posted:
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Feb 1, 2016 23:14
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I'm learning to play against blade dancers and destroyers now! I used to freak out when my cat is snagged away from me, knocked out, then thrown across the other side of the room. After learning not to panic and just play slowly while sticking with my cat I started winning. Destroyers I've heard to use my True Friend shield early on because they'll charge at me and stun me as soon as the match starts and so far that has been working. I'll just start running away like an idiot and dandelion every time they throw that hook or leap. I'm not used to playing defensively but managed to snag 22 points off a high ranked destroyer putting me into 1800. I just need 100 more points until I can join the platinum club. Still willing to spar with anyone for practice!
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Feb 1, 2016 23:20
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Rhymenoserous posted:I should mention that this game has some of the worst bear rear end collecting available that I've ever seen. Don't forget the rest of the story! - everyone is forced to play through the same zones and quests in the same order; there is no "go to a different zone to quest for a while" - grinding is terribly ineffective, so skipping the quests is basically impossible Fortunately, I play as a KFM with a low ping so it goes quick (I can instantly distance-tag from three different abilities). Given how backwards the design is, I am usually pleasantly surprised at how quickly it does finish.
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Feb 1, 2016 23:27
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cathead posted:Hahaha you think people actually read that thing. they do cause I keep seeing "the op refuses to put this guild / server in the op"
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I'm glad NCSoft took care about the botting problem oh wait I guess it did nothing  By the way, does anyone know if there's a limit to the item claim storage? I haven't picked up any of the Daily Dash or Student Bundle items since I play on a bunch of characters at the same time and can never decide who gets what. So far I've got 33 items in there, waiting to be claimed 
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Third World Reggin posted:they do cause I keep seeing "the op refuses to put this guild / server in the op" Uhhh I haven't seen any new additions. Which ones still need to be added?
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cathead posted:Uhhh I haven't seen any new additions. Which ones still need to be added? Old Man Cho and Poharan guilds. But I believe neither posted their (guild) names or actually requested them to be put in the OP so whatever.
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Liberatore posted:Old Man Cho and Poharan guilds. But I believe neither posted their (guild) names or actually requested them to be put in the OP so whatever. Yeah uh, if you guys need a guild added and don't hear from me in thread for whatever reason, you can always ping me on the Discord.
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cathead posted:Yeah uh, if you guys need a guild added and don't hear from me in thread for whatever reason, you can always ping me on the Discord. another ploy in the mumble vs discord cold war
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Thursday Next posted:Don't forget the rest of the story!
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Anything I should be saving my Brilliant Moonwater Key for? The Profane weapon is what I keep hearing to use it on since that boss is annoying.
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looks like i'm sticking with Destroyer until Warlocks are in the game, could use an invite on Mushin, name is Hank Steele
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The Poharan guild is named "booty" and is made up of mostly Age of Wushu nerds from the "Freedom Bloc". We're Blue, and for an invite you can message either Leffe, Chroma, Shazzy, or Delphy if you're on during bad hours. Plz add to OP I do not know how to discord thx. Haroshia fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Feb 2, 2016 |
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Haroshia posted:The Poharan guild is named "booty" and is made up of mostly Age of Wushu nerds from the "Freedom Bloc". We're Blue, and for an invite you can message either Leffe, Chroma or Shazzy . You're never bloody online when I try, and neither is leffe! Maybe i just have bad hours.
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HapiMerchant posted:You're never bloody online when I try, and neither is leffe! Maybe i just have bad hours. Edited post. You probably aren't seeing me because I stopped playing my KFM and made a BM. Delphy is on during weird hours and I think he has invite privileges.
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KFM is interesting, but drat it is a big step up in difficulty from BM. I'm thinking I'd do better as BM and view it as the Not Fury Warrior for simple but good. XD Anyway if the blue Jiwan guild still has room, I'd love an invite as Aleksandara.
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Rhymenoserous posted:Really this is the biggest thing goons bitch about and to date pretty much every MMO past ultima online has existed somewhere on the bear rear end collection spectrum. Things could be different now...
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Haroshia posted:The Poharan guild is named "booty" and is made up of mostly Age of Wushu nerds from the "Freedom Bloc". We're Blue, and for an invite you can message either Leffe, Chroma, Shazzy, or Delphy if you're on during bad hours. Added
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It's absolutely hilarious how easy pvping is as a summoner. I'm even using a PVE build. Only assassin, kung fu master, and force master give me some trouble. but even then eh.
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LumberingTroll posted:For the Jiwan clan GoonWangFu, I made it so anyone rank member and higher can invite, so just as in this thread for one and you should get it. we are at 39 out of 60 total right now. Cool in as Loola level 30 sin.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:It's absolutely hilarious how easy pvping is as a summoner. I'm even using a PVE build. None of those should, in fact each of those is considered a bad pair against a summoner. Summoners rely on lots of immobility and area denials as well as interrupting combos with your cat. And you can go 100% immune to ranged. Destroyers are particularly good at handling summoners, as are Blade Dancers. Both of these because you cannot lock them down easilly, Blade Dancers just cannot be rooted.
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cathead posted:Uhhh I haven't seen any new additions. Which ones still need to be added? Old Man Cho has GoonTang Forever, Red clan. Any member can invite, but Yurifel and Black Daimyonite are two higher ups.
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Eimi posted:KFM is interesting, but drat it is a big step up in difficulty from BM. I'm thinking I'd do better as BM and view it as the Not Fury Warrior for simple but good. XD Anyway if the blue Jiwan guild still has room, I'd love an invite as Aleksandara. amyyyy
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Velveteen posted:I'm learning to play against blade dancers and destroyers now! I used to freak out when my cat is snagged away from me, knocked out, then thrown across the other side of the room. After learning not to panic and just play slowly while sticking with my cat I started winning. Destroyers I've heard to use my True Friend shield early on because they'll charge at me and stun me as soon as the match starts and so far that has been working. I'll just start running away like an idiot and dandelion every time they throw that hook or leap. I'm not used to playing defensively but managed to snag 22 points off a high ranked destroyer putting me into 1800. I just need 100 more points until I can join the platinum club. Yeah summoners is interesting as a BD. It comes down to if I can cc the cat and immediately catch the summoner in an aerial right after. If I can, I can chunk him like crazy.
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Krilion posted:None of those should, in fact each of those is considered a bad pair against a summoner. Summoners rely on lots of immobility and area denials as well as interrupting combos with your cat. And you can go 100% immune to ranged. I frequently only have trouble against those kinds. Force masters just loving root me/ice me and I get none of my breaks for whatever reason
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I frequently only have trouble against those kinds. Force masters just loving root me/ice me and I get none of my breaks for whatever reason Double tap back escapes all roots, but I usually wait it out and cast petals over me, making them unable to do anything as my cat eats their face. They want to root you and combo, so save your ss for when they think they have you, then jump out, knock them down with your cat so they use their escape, then root and needle them while ruining them with regen from doom and bloom. Krilion fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Feb 2, 2016 |
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God drat you Dura, don't you do this to me again tonight.
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FM PvP update: tonight everyone resisted all my snares so I lost a bunch instead of winning a bunch. Sad times. I should probably just be playing assassin or summoner instead but I am not smart enough for that approach. I'll just pretend that in the future people might resist less. Is there any way to tell when a spinning BD is countering and when they're safe to plink at? It seems to be like 60/40 safe to shoot time, but those are pretty bad odds when the wrong call gets me stunned into an air combo. KFM glowing hands are nice and obvious, Assassin tree stance I often notice too late but at least it's possible to spot. BDs? No loving clue, all that spinning nonsense looks the same.
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Irony.or.Death posted:FM PvP update: tonight everyone resisted all my snares so I lost a bunch instead of winning a bunch. Sad times. I should probably just be playing assassin or summoner instead but I am not smart enough for that approach. I'll just pretend that in the future people might resist less. BDs parry for 0.5 seconds after starting the move, the move lasts long than that. So unless you can read the animation perfectly and time your attacks, it seems like a crapshoot to me.
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Clarste posted:BDs parry for 0.5 seconds after starting the move, the move lasts long than that. So unless you can read the animation perfectly and time your attacks, it seems like a crapshoot to me. They can actually use it more than the animation goes for anyway.
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Welp I just met my first bid dropper. A brilliant hexagonal amethyst dropped on 4 man blackram supply chain and I was doing small incremental bids with another person when the a third person jumped in and dropped over 40g. Obviously we all backed out (I couldn't even afford it) and he just left the party before it was over. We ended up rebidding until I snagged it for 5g. A nice profit for a not so good run. Unsurprisingly he was extremely condescending to the group the entire run, trying to explain everything even though the rest of us had told him we've done this multiple times. As well as mocking people when they died and then dying no more than 5 seconds afterwards.
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I like how the difficulty ramps up when you get to the Scorching Sands. That Relic Core Quest in Sandstone refuge was the first quest I have come across that required more then a faceroll. I also threw in the Japanese voice pack which can now bypass the launcher by doing this. quote:http://www.bladeandsouldojo.com/topic/115763-voice-pack-jpn-kr-2015-edition/page__st__120__p__888780#entry888780 Unfortunately this does not actually fix how poor the English translation is for dialogue or skills, nor does it re-add the story section they removed in Act 3(?) Your Moms Ahegao fucked around with this message at 10:52 on Feb 2, 2016 |
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