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For what it's worth, I forgot to mention that I actually was using SafeSysUpdater. I was having extremely poor luck with sysupdater 4.6, so I looked up SafeSysUpdater and kind of alternated between the two for about 30 minutes until SafeSysUpdater actually took, and then the downgrade corrupted  Edit: For reference, it was the one from this post. https://gbatemp.net/threads/wip-safesysupdater.409392/ potaties fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Jan 28, 2016 |
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All versions of the sysupdater are unreliable. I've seen pretty much each and every version of it create a franken-firmware. Some easily recoverable since browserhax still worked, some that required a game update, some that required a game-based entry point, and some where the user was forced to use recovery because they couldn't even boot back into the home menu. There has also been a case where a user couldn't even use recovery mode (most newer versions of sysupdater prioritize the recovery mode related firmware files so that at least that should still work though)
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I think i've discovered one of the reasons why so many people can encounter errors during the 3DS downgrade and end up with half-downgrades and Frankenfirmwares. The automatic system update downloads can interfere with it. I've always used the Tubehax DNS to block the automatic downloads, which might be a reason why i've never ecountered any problems. When the system downloads update data, it kind of pre-installs them, so the actual update process is just a quick title signature switch that takes seconds. This can apparently gently caress up the downgrading process somewhat fierce. It's a similar phenomenon to the old O3DS times when FBI injection into the Health&Safety app was first used. If you had automatic update data on your 3DS, the injection would fail. It also makes sense that some people kept experiencing soft-bricks during downgrade until they formatted their 3DS, which would of course also get rid of any lingering update data. So if you have the update nag, you need to clear the update data first before you try to downgrade. Even if you don't have the nag, the 3DS can partially download update data and will only prompt an update if the update data is complete. So basically, when following a downgrade tutorial, insert these two important steps: * Before starting the downgrade, switch off your WLAN. * Then restart the 3DS while holding R + L + Up + A to boot into Recovery Mode. Decline the update here and all update data should be deleted. Maybe NerdsMcGee can add this to the OP somewhere, i haven't seen any of the usual downgrade tutorials mention this.
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Jan 31, 2016 01:27
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Since so much has changed in the last 2-3 weeks (or so it seems). What's the ideal way to install a new CFW from 9.2 on a n3DS? Last time I did it, I upgraded to 10.3 and had to re-downgrade everything since that upgraded both my emuNAND and sysNAND which didn't seem like the correct thing to do.
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shaitan posted:Since so much has changed in the last 2-3 weeks (or so it seems). What's the ideal way to install a new CFW from 9.2 on a n3DS? Last time I did it, I upgraded to 10.3 and had to re-downgrade everything since that upgraded both my emuNAND and sysNAND which didn't seem like the correct thing to do. https://gbatemp.net/threads/tutorial-setting-up-9-0-9-2-n3ds-xl-for-cfw-including-10-4-emunand-coldboot-cia-installer.405589/
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I just checked the start of that guide and he recommends formatting your mSD with Windows' format function. That's excellent advice if you want to drastically lower the life expectancy of your flash drive
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I just went from 10.3 with menuhax installed to a 10.5 install without first selecting a system theme, and The solution is deleting the folder named 00000098 in extdata\00000000\, which is the home menu theme cache directory. This will reset the position of all your app/game icons as well as resetting the selected theme to the default white system theme. Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Feb 1, 2016 |
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Lemon Curdistan posted:I just went from 10.3 with menuhax installed to a 10.5 install without first selecting a system theme, and nearly bricked my n3DS as a result, so word of warning for anyone else updating without using sysnand/emunand - remember to go back to a system theme first, otherwise the 3DS OS tries to load the menuhax theme, can't, and will just display a black screen (pressing power will still take you to the "click to shutdown or press home to go back to the home menu"). You can't brick your system with menuhax. At worst you have to delete some files from the SD card.
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Yeah, or just remove the SD before powering on, then insert again when the Home Menu is running. Then select a basic theme to clear the menuhax data.
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Okay, yes, "bricked" was not the right word.
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baram. posted:https://gbatemp.net/threads/tutorial-setting-up-9-0-9-2-n3ds-xl-for-cfw-including-10-4-emunand-coldboot-cia-installer.405589/ I had good luck using this guide for my old 3ds recently (he points out all the files where the process diverges for the new one). I like it better than the one linked for the original 3DS in the OP because it is Homebrew Launcher based as opposed to Gateway based and I found it easier to follow along / less complicated. I also like that you have a better idea of what you have downloaded / are using vs. the all in one package in the other guide.
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PS. Love the cabin posted:
Crystal Quest would port pretty well if you can use the stylus as a mouse!
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I thought that emuNAND and sysNAND weren't to be affected by one or the other? Last time I downgraded, I was in emuNAND and I upgraded to 10.3 and it also upgraded my sysNAND. This time, I was in emuNAND and deselected a theme to deactivate menuhax for it and now I can't load menuhax on my sysNAND. Is this normal?
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HenryEx posted:I just checked the start of that guide and he recommends formatting your mSD with Windows' format function. How does it lower the life expectancy?
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Didn't realise there was a 10.5, does it still play nice with reinand? Speaking of reinand, I think I might switch to it just to get rid of the annoying update messages and to get badge icons for folders back too I suppose. What are the differences between it and rxtools? Am I right in thinking reinand doesn't have region patching?
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sharktamer posted:Didn't realise there was a 10.5, does it still play nice with reinand? 10.5 works fine with Reinand. Also, you are right in Reinand not having region patching built-in. That's not a big problem since you can just use Free multi patcher or NTR to get out-of-region games/DLC working if you need to.
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Am I reading this right that if I have 10.5 my only realistic hack is to get ahold of cubic ninja?
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Crimson Harvest posted:Am I reading this right that if I have 10.5 my only realistic hack is to get ahold of cubic ninja? Browserhax still works on 10.5 as an entry point, and you can install menuhax 2.2 that way for a permanent one.
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Is there a way to use NTR with Gateway in emunand?
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shaitan posted:I thought that emuNAND and sysNAND weren't to be affected by one or the other? Last time I downgraded, I was in emuNAND and I upgraded to 10.3 and it also upgraded my sysNAND. This time, I was in emuNAND and deselected a theme to deactivate menuhax for it and now I can't load menuhax on my sysNAND. Is this normal? In the tutorial i used (linked a few posts up) there is a step to unlink your emuNAND and sysNAND using TinyFormat. Did you do this? (If you did you should have two folders inside your Nintendo 3DS folder)
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Substandard posted:In the tutorial i used (linked a few posts up) there is a step to unlink your emuNAND and sysNAND using TinyFormat. Did you do this? (If you did you should have two folders inside your Nintendo 3DS folder) Thanks. I did follow that tutorial but didn't unlink my NAND. I thought I read earlier in the thread that it caused issues and the only advantage was that you can use the GBA firmware. I can unlink though if that'll solve my "unwrapped gifts" issue and this menuhax when booting into emuNAND issue.
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shaitan posted:Thanks. I did follow that tutorial but didn't unlink my NAND. I thought I read earlier in the thread that it caused issues and the only advantage was that you can use the GBA firmware. I can unlink though if that'll solve my "unwrapped gifts" issue and this menuhax when booting into emuNAND issue. If you have trouble with menuhax on linked NANDs, check out this: https://gbatemp.net/threads/howto-menuhax-on-linked-nands.403441/ The basic idea is that your emuNAND loads a custom shuffle theme (could be only one theme, or twice the same if you don't actually want to shuffle), whereas 9.0 and 9.2 don't support theme shuffling and thus will load normal menuhax instead. As for unwrapping gifts, you should not ever need to actually boot up sysNAND if you have a correctly set-up emuNAND. A boot manager will "catch" the sysNAND boot before the re-wrapping stage, allowing you to use any sysNAND exploits without actually entering the home menu.
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Nintendo is supposedly blocking online features if your firmware is older than the current one. All custom firmwares except rxtools can be updated to 10.5. Make sure you back up your current emunand first before updating, it could save you a lot of headache in case something goes wrong.
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Lemon Curdistan posted:Browserhax still works on 10.5 as an entry point, and you can install menuhax 2.2 that way for a permanent one. I did this, and it worked fine, but I guess I shouldn't have bothered cause what I want to do is play MHX but can't run 3ds roms this way.
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Crimson Harvest posted:I did this, and it worked fine, but I guess I shouldn't have bothered cause what I want to do is play MHX but can't run 3ds roms this way. It can't, no, you'll need to install a kernel-level hack for that. What you can do with it is bypass region-locking and load patches to physical games, which means you can buy a Japanese MHX copy and play it with a translation patch applied. Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 10:35 on Feb 2, 2016 |
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MohShuvuu posted:Nintendo is supposedly blocking online features if your firmware is older than the current one. All custom firmwares except rxtools can be updated to 10.5. Make sure you back up your current emunand first before updating, it could save you a lot of headache in case something goes wrong. Doesn't rxtools work with 10.5 on an o3ds?
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sharktamer posted:Doesn't rxtools work with 10.5 on an o3ds? It does. Not with a n3ds though.
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Yeah it should be fine on o3ds. I have a N3DS so I pretty much only follow news for that.
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OK I'm about to set up a friends o3ds tomorrow, hope she hasn't upgraded or anything without realising.
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I haven't messed around with the scene since 10.4 came out; can you still install CIA's on 10.5? I hate hate hate hate having to reboot to get into Homebrew launcher.
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Abu Dave posted:I haven't messed around with the scene since 10.4 came out; can you still install CIA's on 10.5? I hate hate hate hate having to reboot to get into Homebrew launcher. Assuming you have downgraded you system and are running a sysnand+emunand combo, you can safely update your emunand to the latest firmware and still install CIAs.
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Yep I had done that already, thanks Andrast
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Can the n3ds XL get downgraded? I'm on 10.3 if that matters. (Is downgrading what I want for SNES, Gens, and GBA roms?)
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Turtlicious posted:Can the n3ds XL get downgraded? I'm on 10.3 if that matters. (Is downgrading what I want for SNES, Gens, and GBA roms?) Yes. However, I see a lot of complaints about emulation. Virtual console titles seem to work fine, though.
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SNES and GBA emulation on a downgraded n3DS is actually really good. Everything I've tried to run has worked perfectly. I haven't tried Genesis though.
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Andrast posted:SNES and GBA emulation on a downgraded n3DS is actually really good. Everything I've tried to run has worked perfectly. Yeah ever since I downgraded and then installed emuNAND and was able to run the emulators through cia's, I have been seeing much better compatability/speed out of SNES/GBA games. edit: Can SDHC cards be used on a WiiU with the Wii portion hacked? Just to hold emulators and roms.
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Andrast posted:SNES and GBA emulation on a downgraded n3DS is actually really good. Everything I've tried to run has worked perfectly. What emulator for SNES? And what games? I have... Not had the same experience.
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MohShuvuu posted:Nintendo is supposedly blocking online features if your firmware is older than the current one. All custom firmwares except rxtools can be updated to 10.5. Make sure you back up your current emunand first before updating, it could save you a lot of headache in case something goes wrong. From what I read it was all FUD and nobody knows why whomever said that was banned. They claimed that 10.5 had mod check code in it which is flat out impossible, only the friend app was modified. Only thing people are known to be banned for is hacking badge arcade to get free pulls and even then it's only a ban to badge arcade.
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shaitan posted:Yeah ever since I downgraded and then installed emuNAND and was able to run the emulators through cia's, I have been seeing much better compatability/speed out of SNES/GBA games. Wii U mode doesn't use the SD card at all, except for certain games like Smash Bros. You can just leave an SD card with homebrew stuff for vWii in your system with no ill effects.
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