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uncurable mlady posted:actually I think you'll find that people are mostly concerned about how Donald Trump is a loser who lost, who did not win, who could not close the deal and actually cried about it, about how bad he lost to a man with some sort of melty face whose children hate him. Again let me just repeat that Donald Trump is a big loser who didn't win, and was very low energy after he lost, he should probably just wrap it up and go back to his home with the other losers. http://loser.com This is the end of the Trump comedy tour. And just when he was honing in a really solid 1hr set for his HBO special. Sad times.
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President Huckabee, President Santorum, President Cruz. Amazing. 20 years of losers. I do not want to be in that group! Now, think of it, who else skipped a debate, lost Iowa, and became a great leader?
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Donald Trump posted:President Huckabee, President Santorum, President Cruz. Amazing. 20 years of losers. I do not want to be in that group! Now, think of it, who else skipped a debate, lost Iowa, and became a great leader? not donald trump 
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FAUXTON posted:Iowa is Rubio's victory at Antietam. A strategic win but largely irrelevant on a tactical level beyond the effects of attrition. Other way around, I think? Tactically impressive in that he avoided annihilation, but strategically irrelevant as he failed to achieve much of import. Also, his opponent was an idiot. Obviously this metaphor only holds up if Rubio loses the nomination.
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uncurable mlady posted:actually I think you'll find that people are mostly concerned about how Donald Trump is a loser who lost, who did not win, who could not close the deal and actually cried about it, about how bad he lost to a man with some sort of melty face whose children hate him. Again let me just repeat that Donald Trump is a big loser who didn't win, and was very low energy after he lost, he should probably just wrap it up and go back to his home with the other losers. So, there's a few points to address here. While I'm sure that Cruz will be one to gloat in his own way, I also think that whether one looks like a loser is quite relative to initial expectations. Trump started out as a joke candidate and has shown twice, once with his defense of "New York Values" and once tonight with his grace in defeat, that he can be the spitting image of Presidential when the issue requires it. No matter what Trump says, you can trust that Trump believes himself when he says it. With Cruz? He says one thing in public, and another in private; he's not a genuine individual. Trump, he's genuine to his emotions, and he lets you know it.
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Donald Trump posted:President Huckabee, President Santorum, President Cruz. Amazing. 20 years of losers. I do not want to be in that group! Now, think of it, who else skipped a debate, lost Iowa, and became a great leader? Bingo. It's the same gently caress'n lane Reagan used to win, and Reagan even faced off against well-organized Bush with a better campaign infrastructure!
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Donald Trump posted:President Huckabee, President Santorum, President Cruz. Amazing. 20 years of losers. I do not want to be in that group! Now, think of it, who else skipped a debate, lost Iowa, and became a great leader? https://www.loser.com
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My Imaginary GF posted:So, there's a few points to address here. While I'm sure that Cruz will be one to gloat in his own way, I also think that whether one looks like a loser is quite relative to initial expectations. Trump started out as a joke candidate and has shown twice, once with his defense of "New York Values" and once tonight with his grace in defeat, that he can be the spitting image of Presidential when the issue requires it. No matter what Trump says, you can trust that Trump believes himself when he says it. shut up nerd
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So has anyone but Huckabee dropped yet?
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America's time as the leader of the free world is drawing to a close and I think Cruz is the man who can finally get us there.
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Cabinet posted:So has anyone but Huckabee dropped yet? What is a frothy, brown, almost creamlike substance with a sweatervest? Also, Lindsey Graham dropped out a while ago now.
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oystertoadfish posted:im glad trump underperformed his polls and i hope he continues to do so I get the first part, but I don't get the second part. I was really enjoying the poo poo show.
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It's like getting drunk and bitching out one of your coworkers. You still have to sit next to them on Monday, even if it felt good to drop the facade for a minute on Friday.
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Montasque posted:I get the first part, but I don't get the second part. I was really enjoying the poo poo show. Trump's got the racist vote locked-up. Now's the time to allow Cruz to show just how radical he is, and swallow Jeb!'s campaign infrastructure.
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William Bear posted:Why? Because "viability" is actually a hump candidates need to get over before being taken seriously, but once over that hump they quickly gain support in order to compete with the other viable ones. Trump sucked all the air out of the room with the way he's been polling but his supporters skipped caucus day just like they skip leg day because they're all talk, no walk, and too loving stupid to figure out the difference between a gallup landline poll and attending the caucus. That allowed Rubio to sweep in and turn this into a 5-point race between him, Cruz, and Trump, meaning the establishment support suddenly had a horse to hitch their wagon to and a place from which to fight back against the insurgents propping up the likes of Cruz and Trump. Rubio is now a Serious Contender rather than one of the second-tier also-rans behind Trump and whoever he's fighting with on any given day. Rubio's numbers make him seem like more than just the water-obsessed joke candidate he was a week ago and a lot of people who just want someone comparatively reasonable to support are probably going to flock to him from the single-digit folks while Cruz and Trump fight over the same crowd. sullat posted:Other way around, I think? Tactically impressive in that he avoided annihilation, but strategically irrelevant as he failed to achieve much of import. Also, his opponent was an idiot. Obviously this metaphor only holds up if Rubio loses the nomination. Nah, tactically inconclusive as it wasn't a clear victory, but strategically important as it kept the other guys from walking away with a decisive win, thus denying them the narrative and allowing Rubio to say "I have a realistic shot at this, think twice." FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Feb 2, 2016 |
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My Imaginary GF posted:So, there's a few points to address here. While I'm sure that Cruz will be one to gloat in his own way, I also think that whether one looks like a loser is quite relative to initial expectations. Trump started out as a joke candidate and has shown twice, once with his defense of "New York Values" and once tonight with his grace in defeat, that he can be the spitting image of Presidential when the issue requires it. No matter what Trump says, you can trust that Trump believes himself when he says it. There is most definitely no candidate more authentic than Trump in this race, though Sanders seems pretty close.
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Montasque posted:I get the first part, but I don't get the second part. I was really enjoying the poo poo show. it was starting to make me nervous guess i shouldn't speak in past tense, but even a little dose of political reality kind of brings things back toward boring, dirty centrism, with which i've learned to cope
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Cabinet posted:So has anyone but Huckabee dropped yet? Jim Gilmore increases his ranking by one place. Soon the time will be right.
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Montasque posted:I get the first part, but I don't get the second part. I was really enjoying the poo poo show. I think if Trump stays in the top 2 but Cruz crashes behind Kasich or Christie in New Hampshire, the chaos will keep reigning. The eventual Trump meltdown will be so fun to watch.
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i think my favorite part of tonights race was when trump supporters got savagely annihilated
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The X-man cometh posted:I think if Trump stays in the top 2 but Cruz crashes behind Kasich or Christie in New Hampshire, the chaos will keep reigning. The eventual Trump meltdown will be so fun to watch. Schwarzenegger should fire him on The Apprentice. Would be a good way to kick off the season.
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Hot-takes: 1.) All of you should be ashamed for yelling at Joementum. Not because of Trump or what not, but because you obviously don't get the same level of visceral satisfaction from the weirdness of american democracy. 2.) Trump is not stumped, but will still probably not be the nominee, just as he wasn't likely to be the nominee a month or a year ago for the same goddamn reasons. That said, his ultimate vote tally was actually really impressive. 3.) Its probably gonna be Rubio. Thank Trump for that.
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A Neurotic Jew posted:i think my favorite part of tonights race was when trump supporters got savagely annihilated #WhiteGenocide
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A Neurotic Jew posted:i think my favorite part of tonights race was when trump supporters got savagely annihilated My fav is Bush not getting a single delegate even tho he had one of the top 3 campaigns in Iowa.
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A Neurotic Jew posted:i think my favorite part of tonights race was when trump supporters got savagely annihilated My favorite part was his stupid rear end in a top hat spokesperson telling CBS that they went into tonight thinking Trump was going to basically place last. You could hear the whirring noise of that idiot's bullet necklace trying to handle that level of spin.
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All the people who said skipping the debate was a good idea have been stumped. Also lmao at destroying any chance of being on fox's good side to come in second place.
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It's going to be an interesting few weeks. Rubio will now have massively inflated expectations going forward while Trump and Jeb! will go all out to destroy him. All the talk about Rubio's 3-2-1 strategy is looking especially clever since it's unlikely he'll overtake Trump in NH in a week, helps manage expectations. I'm guessing Rubio will do fine as the front runner with all that establishment money flooding in, but it'll be fun watching him try to defend against attacks from all sides.
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For real though, literally gently caress everyone who owns, has owned, or has thought about owning a bullet necklace.
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MSNBC just showed a guy in a Santorum sweater vest who took a photo of the vote tally at his precinct. The tally showed zero votes for Santorum. Chris Hayes then asked him why he didn't vote for Santorum. He explained that his pen ran out of ink. Caucuses own.
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Venom Snake posted:All the people who said skipping the debate was a good idea have been stumped. Also lmao at destroying any chance of being on fox's good side to come in second place. Fox news was gunning for Trump so he didn't really have a choice. It would have looked even worse if he had gone and had to explain all the silly poo poo he's said for the last couple decades.
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selzer's poll didn't nail the margin and it's not gospel truth or anything, but they asked their 602 republican likely caucus-goers about whether trump skipping the debate was a positive or a negative and i think more than half of them went with 'don't care', with pretty even margins on the plus and minus sides. probably most of the people who felt feelings about it were already pretty strongly for or against trump and responded to his actions accordingly its in here somewhere ive posted it in here before http://media.bloomberg.com/bb/avfile/r1OvZ1NeDjnY it was probably good for him to shoot that bullet before the first votes were cast. at this point i think the negatives to skipping a debate are quite a bit larger than they would've been before
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FAUXTON posted:Palin claims a second campaign.
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oystertoadfish posted:selzer's poll didn't nail the margin and it's not gospel truth or anything, but they asked their 602 republican likely caucus-goers about whether trump skipping the debate was a positive or a negative and i think more than half of them went with 'don't care', with pretty even margins on the plus and minus sides. probably most of the people who felt feelings about it were already pretty strongly for or against trump and responded to his actions accordingly Yeah, the last debate didn't do poo poo. The reason last minute people picked Rubio and other non-Trumps is because they couldn't decide which non-Trump they wanted to go for until they saw how things were at the end. Trump was a constant, it was the people around him who were fluctuating.
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