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Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
Painting faces with acrylic is going to be the god damned death of me.

If you'll excuse the terribly poo poo-drawn MSPaint explanation... I put a couple dots of shading, with the intent of blending it out with water. When I do so, I still have little "rings" of the original color that I can't get to go away. Is my paint not thinned enough? Ugh this is frustrating.



edit-- I might just give up and buy some oils.

Count Thrashula fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Feb 2, 2016

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Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Greyhawk posted:

It's Zimmerit. It's a hardened paste that was used for a while on German armour as a measure against magnetic mines.

Ah yeah I've seen what looks like an almost clay-like material on tanks before. That makes total sense. Must add a lot of weight.

Space Jam
Jul 22, 2008


Can we start a new thread just so we can put this in the OP?

Unkempt
May 24, 2003

...perfect spiral, scientists are still figuring it out...

Arquinsiel posted:

I think we have a winner.

ETA: what Revell colour did you use for the orange?

It's just 'Orange', number 30. It's the gloss acrylic.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

COOL CORN posted:

Painting faces with acrylic is going to be the god damned death of me.

If you'll excuse the terribly poo poo-drawn MSPaint explanation... I put a couple dots of shading, with the intent of blending it out with water. When I do so, I still have little "rings" of the original color that I can't get to go away. Is my paint not thinned enough? Ugh this is frustrating.



edit-- I might just give up and buy some oils.

Vallejo Glaze Medium (probably others too but this is what I use) is amazing at reducing that effect. Use to make glazes or just add a drop to the mix on the palette for smoother highlights.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

COOL CORN posted:

edit-- I might just give up and buy some oils.

DING DING DING DING!

Triggerhappypilot
Nov 8, 2009

SVMS-01 UNION FLAG GREATEST MOBILE SUIT

ENACT = CHEAP EUROTRASH COPY




Unkempt posted:







Still looks a bit weird. Probably a prototype or something.

Simply amazing.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Unkempt posted:

You may remember this from a month or so back:



Well, anyway. The fuselage is the wrong shape. Needs a trim.



That's more like it.



Getting there.



The tailfins are completely wrong and need reshaping



I thought Airfix had left out the booms too, but I found them eventually.



The actual tailplane turned out to be in a completely different kit I bought last year! Not sure how they did that.









At this point about three weeks ago I managed to drop my airbrush halfway through cleaning it and completely hosed the nozzle. Got the replacement this morning.



... and finally.







Still looks a bit weird. Probably a prototype or something.

Well we've never had a winner so clearly in our non-contest as this.

Also having this as the payoff of a little joke seems to way to small for the amazing result. Someone needs to spread this to the world. Not joking.

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
Well, it's god damned far from perfect, but for my first face I guess it came out okay. My only tiny brush was scraggly as shot so there were a lot of stray strokes which made it look really scratchy. Oh well, I'll get a new brush one of these days.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

COOL CORN posted:

Well, it's god damned far from perfect, but for my first face I guess it came out okay. My only tiny brush was scraggly as shot so there were a lot of stray strokes which made it look really scratchy. Oh well, I'll get a new brush one of these days.





We all gotta start somewhere. Only place to go is up from here!

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




When you get a new brush Cool Corn consider a Windsor and Newton Series 7. Mine has held a point through many years of abuse. You can get away with a size 0 or 1 because they hold such a nice point. Get some brush cleaner and you will use your ridiculously expensive brush for years

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug

COOL CORN posted:

Well, it's god damned far from perfect, but for my first face I guess it came out okay. My only tiny brush was scraggly as shot so there were a lot of stray strokes which made it look really scratchy. Oh well, I'll get a new brush one of these days.



Faces are hard, my first post in this thread was asking how to paint faces. I'm still not very good at it.

Baronjutter posted:

Ah yeah I've seen what looks like an almost clay-like material on tanks before. That makes total sense. Must add a lot of weight.

It did. It also delayed production and really wasn't all that useful, and there were rumours that it was flammable (it wasn't), so it was eventually dropped. Still, it looks neat, so lots of people put it on their models.

Molentik
Apr 30, 2013

lilljonas posted:

Give me paint advice, pretty please.

I would basecoat, mask the big green blotches with silly putty and paint them, and then do the lines with a small pointed permanent marker; white first and then the black. That way you get way sharper lines with a consistent width.

Molotow markers are awesome for this, definately check them out, especially for the white. http://www.molotow.com/molotow/

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Unkempt posted:

You may remember this from a month or so back:

:words:



Still looks a bit weird. Probably a prototype or something.

This is loving amazing. Bravo.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
Is that a Vampire Zero?

Luminaflare
Sep 23, 2010

No one man
should have all that
POWER BEYOND MEASURE


Pierzak posted:

Is that a Vampire Zero?

No? It's a Vampire T.11, says so on the box.

EdsTeioh
Oct 23, 2004

PRAY FOR DEATH


I genuinely love that Vampire. Reminds me of something out of Crimson Skies.

Update on my orange peel problem: I simply added a couple of drops of Vallejo thinner to my model air and it made a WORLD of difference. I guess depending on climate that you still have to thin those down. I also switched from my hand me down Paasche H to a new Talon. Night and day on those two. I don't want to use a single action again. My compresser pressure stopping was apparently due to a bad hose also, so that's much better now. Thanks for all the input on that Hedgehog; pics of my first foray coming soon, hopefully.

Antifreeze Head
Jun 6, 2005

It begins
Pillbug
I bought a cheap model and I have a problem. I should have known things were bad when I saw this on the box, but for nine dollars I didn't really care.



It's a Lindberg F4U-5N Corsair, in case anyone happens across one and was thinking they'd like to spend some time sanding off flash and recutting holes. The assembly job pictured on the box has a part upside down too, a further testament to the quality of the kit. Anyway, it was no surprise that mine has the same issue.



The solution I came up with was a cut-to-size piece of plastic to fill that gap, and I thought I had one but I can't seem to make it stick. I'm trying to use HDPE that I salvaged out of a food container; washed and sanded but neither krazy glue nor a five-minute epoxy I've tried have managed to keep it affixed. I have, but haven't tired, some canopy glue. Is there another adhesive that might work better? Or some common source of a different plastic to act as a better filler? I realize that one solution is buy more models until I get a surplus piece, but I'd rather get on to the paining of this one.

Also, the kit ships with six rockets instead of the eight it is supposed to have, so I am planning on leaving those off. I was thinking of using latex caulking to fill in the holes on the underside of the wing prior to painting, anyone ever try that or have a better suggestion to offer?

Greyhawk
May 30, 2001


The answer to both of these problems is Perfect Plastic Putty.

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug
Lindberg is the loving worst, their box art is entirely indicative of the quality of the product within. I think my favourite is their Tiger where the wheels and track come in one (extremely crude) piece.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Ensign Expendable posted:

Lindberg is the loving worst, their box art is entirely indicative of the quality of the product within. I think my favourite is their Tiger where the wheels and track come in one (extremely crude) piece.

I really don't understand Lindberg and why they exist - they want to sell scale model kits, but sorta hate scale model kits

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

Space Jam posted:

Can we start a new thread just so we can put this in the OP?

It exists for this thread, really: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3660745

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug



Yessss

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

It's a great thread for realizing your painting and kit-bashing skills are far from the worst. Just... try to ignore some of the derails.

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
I feel better about my melting-guy-from-Robocop figure now :unsmith:

N17R4M
Aug 18, 2012

Because yes we actually DID want that land
Been experimenting with scenery. Finding out what works and what doesn't, using a narrow gauge loop and a ~2x2ft board.

Important lessons learned: Trees, fences and sidewalks make a world of difference. So does track ballast.

Time to start hoarding supplies for making tiny trees and shrubs, and static grass.

Brovine
Dec 24, 2011

Mooooo?

Unkempt posted:


Still looks a bit weird. Probably a prototype or something.

PERFECT.

Been pretty busy the last few days including the fun of my PSU failing, so I'm a little behind with my Crappire. Still need to paint up my additional weapons and attach them, then apply transfers everywhere and hope they stay on. I am still intending to use both GPU-5/A pods and both pairs of Sidewinders...

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches





Scrunts are the best

makka-setan
Jan 21, 2004

Happy camping.
I guess I was closer to finishing than I thought. The canopy didn't turn out too well, the masking tape took some of the paint off. And I didn't trust my airbrush skills to do any exhaust or gun streaking so I just did some minor drybrushing instead.

Learned a lot. Next will be better. And bigger. 1:72 is tiiiiiny!




Question: I put on decals on matt paint then clear coated with more matt varnish but the decal still has a different shine than the paint. Would a decal solution make the edges of the decals blend in more or will that require a gloss surface under the decals? Or both?

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

N17R4M posted:

Been experimenting with scenery. Finding out what works and what doesn't, using a narrow gauge loop and a ~2x2ft board.

Important lessons learned: Trees, fences and sidewalks make a world of difference. So does track ballast.

Time to start hoarding supplies for making tiny trees and shrubs, and static grass.


You have a little ballast truck! :3:

Smoke
Mar 12, 2005

I am NOT a red Bumblebee for god's sake!

Gun Saliva
So I'm working on a Revell 1/24 Citroën 2CV Charleston. It's mostly done other than general cleanup and details, but that's where I'm encountering an issue:



The real version has silver trim around the doors and on the beltline, while the decals only provide trim for the bottom. I've tried painting it with my smallest brush and silver paint, but there's a bit too much spillover to get a nice result, and cleanup with a toothpick takes too much off.

I'm thinking the solution to go to here is a thin silver paint pen and handle it that way. Or is there a better way I can do it with paint and brush?

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

OK, I screwed up the crap plane:



Because I got the airfix kit instead of the Revell, and it is actually pretty nice, so I just built it to practice my bare-metal skills.



The silver is mega-fancy alclad lacquer over a black base. The yellow is decanted from paint I removed from several yellow pencils lies









I wanted the canopy closed, but it didn't fit quite right, and in the process of trying to fix this, I made it quite a bit less right

So it is open







Triggerhappypilot
Nov 8, 2009

SVMS-01 UNION FLAG GREATEST MOBILE SUIT

ENACT = CHEAP EUROTRASH COPY




makka-setan posted:

Question: I put on decals on matt paint then clear coated with more matt varnish but the decal still has a different shine than the paint. Would a decal solution make the edges of the decals blend in more or will that require a gloss surface under the decals? Or both?

Generally, you want to put decals on (with decal solution) over a gloss base - a quick coat of future is fine for this when the future has set (>6 hours is a good rule of thumb), then wait for the decal to shrink and dry (generally 24 hours will do it). After that, you can either directly spray on your matte varnish. However, if you're planning on weathering with an oil wash, I recommend spraying another layer of gloss varnish like future, since the gloss varnish makes it easier for the paint to run when creating streaks. when you're done with the weathering, you can always lay on a matte/gloss/whatever finish you want coat as the final layer to get the look you want.

Did you freehand the camo splotches on the 109?

bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe
I just got the Zvezda 1:48 Yak-3. Being as this is my second model as an adult I think this is...a bit past my skill level, 9 step engine build and so on. Some of the finished ones out there are absolute works of art.

Anyone built this before and or have any tips or suggestions?

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
Done with machinegunner Meltyman



My first figure ever. I think I'll call him... Otto.

All paints mixed from basic colors. I couldn't justify buying a bunch of flesh and feldgrau colors.

Unkempt
May 24, 2003

...perfect spiral, scientists are still figuring it out...

Nebakenezzer posted:

OK, I screwed up the crap plane:



You totally screwed that up in as much as it is really nicely done. Disgraceful.

jadebullet
Mar 25, 2011


MY LIFE FOR YOU!

Unkempt posted:

You may remember this from a month or so back:



Well, anyway. The fuselage is the wrong shape. Needs a trim.



That's more like it.



Getting there.



The tailfins are completely wrong and need reshaping



I thought Airfix had left out the booms too, but I found them eventually.



The actual tailplane turned out to be in a completely different kit I bought last year! Not sure how they did that.









At this point about three weeks ago I managed to drop my airbrush halfway through cleaning it and completely hosed the nozzle. Got the replacement this morning.



... and finally.







Still looks a bit weird. Probably a prototype or something.

This needs to go on scalemates as a review.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

bewbies posted:

I just got the Zvezda 1:48 Yak-3. Being as this is my second model as an adult I think this is...a bit past my skill level, 9 step engine build and so on. Some of the finished ones out there are absolute works of art.

Anyone built this before and or have any tips or suggestions?

There's kind of a progression in scale models where first you worry about the basics - your construction, removing lines etc and filling gaps. Then you work on getting your paint down. Then, you get into you fancy-pants stuff - photoetch, advanced techniques etc. Focus on wherever you are on this continuum and you will be fine.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

jadebullet posted:

This needs to go on scalemates as a review.

Oh my god yes.

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George Zimmer
Jun 28, 2008

Smoke posted:

So I'm working on a Revell 1/24 Citroën 2CV Charleston. It's mostly done other than general cleanup and details, but that's where I'm encountering an issue:



The real version has silver trim around the doors and on the beltline, while the decals only provide trim for the bottom. I've tried painting it with my smallest brush and silver paint, but there's a bit too much spillover to get a nice result, and cleanup with a toothpick takes too much off.

I'm thinking the solution to go to here is a thin silver paint pen and handle it that way. Or is there a better way I can do it with paint and brush?

Bare metal foil was made for this. It's an adhesive metal foil that's very thin and conforming. Take a strip of the foil, apply it over the trim, burnish with a cotton swab, and then trim the excess with a sharp, new blade. Looks miles better than any paint or decal. It's what I did for this 250 GTO I built:

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