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hotsauce
Jan 14, 2007

Factor Mystic posted:

The default keyboard is also awful compared to Windows Phone.

One step closer; soon.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/16/10778738/microsoft-windows-phone-word-flow-keyboard-iphone-ios

hotsauce fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Jan 31, 2016

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Factor Mystic
Mar 20, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

Drastic Actions posted:

I'm pretty sure the Android and iOS Groove Music apps can stream music from OneDrive now.

Not without paying for Groove Music Pass

Chasiubao
Apr 2, 2010


Factor Mystic posted:

Not without paying for Groove Music Pass

Microsoft already owns my soul :downs:

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men

wookieepelt posted:

Even using social media apps to sync contacts us much worse in the iPhone. I have roughly 150 people on my phone that have contact picture, most of those are from Facebook. On the iPhone, Facebook synced 11. I could not manually add the contact photo from Facebook without saving it to the phone because the vast majority of my friends don't add their number to Facebook. The iPhone won't let me manually sync contacts from the Facebook app because...

Just use the sync.me app for Facebook pictures.

wookieepelt
Jul 23, 2009

CubanMissile posted:

Just use the sync.me app for Facebook pictures.

Of course there's an app for that. iOS is an app launcher OS. Without the apps you'd have a less functional but more stable OS than windows mobile.

Jewmanji
Dec 28, 2003
My 950 is apparently hemorrhaging data. 12 out of the last 17 days have used over .5 GB (I basically use my phone for internet/twitter/SMS/email only). I went to bed at 10:30 last night, and from 12:00 until the early morning I somehow used up 312 MBs. I've turned off photo syncing to OneDrive (though it never worked in the first place), and will have to leave my phone on airplane mode overnight now.

This phone just gets better and better.

wookieepelt
Jul 23, 2009
There is a known but regarding messaging sync in the background. Disable that in the settings and it should go back to normal.

Jewmanji
Dec 28, 2003

wookieepelt posted:

There is a known but regarding messaging sync in the background. Disable that in the settings and it should go back to normal.

Hm, I think I remember seeing something about that reported a few weeks ago. I'll give it a shot, thanks!

TopherCStone
Feb 27, 2013

I am very important and deserve your attention

Guillermus posted:

A 640 or 640 XL will cover your needs. I still like the camera on my 925 since it has dual flash led, but the 640XL's camera is quite decent. Is a shame that both the 830 and 735 were so expensive, I liked these two for mid range phones.

Cool, thanks!

Edward IV
Jan 15, 2006

TopherCStone posted:

Cool, thanks!

Actually, I have a 640 XL I'm not using anymore that's still in good condition. Interested?

Syrinxx
Mar 28, 2002

Death is whimsical today

I am astonished at what a good little phone the 640 is for just $48. I really like Win10 mobile and I find myself hoping MS can get a toehold back into the market to challenge iOS and Android, just because I think it's a very good user experience. I think they may have missed their window (heh), though, and I'm not sure a Surface branded phone can rescue them. They probably need to attack the midrange market with phones that cost less that $300

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009



Syrinxx posted:

I am astonished at what a good little phone the 640 is for just $48. I really like Win10 mobile and I find myself hoping MS can get a toehold back into the market to challenge iOS and Android, just because I think it's a very good user experience. I think they may have missed their window (heh), though, and I'm not sure a Surface branded phone can rescue them. They probably need to attack the midrange market with phones that cost less that $300

They could have done that if the 950/950XL were underpriced for the specs, like the Nexus 4/5 were for google. But right now who is willing to spend that amount of money for a windows phone when they can get a top tier Android device. Unless you are a microsoft fan, I don't see someone that owned android flagships (or even iPhones), jumping into WP and risking it with a $500 or more phone.

Hell, If I knew that they'd release a good phone with 2gb ram for 300€, I'm sure that I would have waited and get that instead of my 640XL because I know the platform and I like it, but unless something change, I'll go back to Android next year.

Mr Funkface
Dec 21, 2009

Guillermus posted:

They could have done that if the 950/950XL were underpriced for the specs, like the Nexus 4/5 were for google. But right now who is willing to spend that amount of money for a windows phone when they can get a top tier Android device. Unless you are a microsoft fan, I don't see someone that owned android flagships (or even iPhones), jumping into WP and risking it with a $500 or more phone.

Hell, If I knew that they'd release a good phone with 2gb ram for 300€, I'm sure that I would have waited and get that instead of my 640XL because I know the platform and I like it, but unless something change, I'll go back to Android next year.

Exactly. Not my area of expertise but why could they not have sold twice as many at half the price? Even with greater losses because *it's not as simple as that* at least there would be some 950s (or WPhones in general) in the wild. Even die-hards have little interest at this price, especially when obviously in beta (I'm sitting this one out, the 640 is a-OK for now). It does them no good to sell none, they're losing money and any good will or profile they may have had.

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

It is indeed a shame that it is more or less impossible to recommend WP to any savvy users at the moment (I think the low-end remains very convincing, but it is sort of iffy there too), I am however, luckily, finding myself more and more pleased with my 950, and with WM10 especially. Microsoft has again impressed with a good pace of bug-fix updates, and it is now working quite smoothly for me.

Still way too expensive, and hard to recommend in that it isn't really objectively better than the competitors, but at least I didn't get forced to feel a real fool for buying one anyway.

Snakes in a can
May 14, 2014

Yeah i feel like an idiot buying a 950XL (not that the phone isn't great) just the face it feels like the phone has so much power in it but its never being used, the most intensive thing i use my phone for is GBA emulation, thats it. Not sure how often i am going to use continuum but i diffidently could see my 950xl getting a workout if VLC end up making a WPU for phone and i hope it would have x265 compatibility, i could definitely see the phone getting a workout from that.

They need a midrange device not that the 640 is not excellent, but a mid range device that supports continuum ASAP. I've also heard nothing about islandwood for awhile now, i know they are testing but not much has been said.

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost

Snakes in a can posted:

Not sure how often i am going to use continuum but i diffidently could see my 950xl getting a workout if VLC end up making a WPU for phone and i hope it would have x265 compatibility, i could definitely see the phone getting a workout from that.

It's coming. Basically it's a matter of how quickly we can get the VLC libraries running on UWP. I got a set running with our current toolchain, but they are going to change it to use Clang. So whenever that gets set up, then it will be put out.

Snakes in a can
May 14, 2014

Drastic Actions posted:

It's coming. Basically it's a matter of how quickly we can get the VLC libraries running on UWP. I got a set running with our current toolchain, but they are going to change it to use Clang. So whenever that gets set up, then it will be put out.

Cool, do you know if x265 HEVC will be supported from the start? (I know it's a bit of an ask and a large number of older phones would likely not support it)

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost

Snakes in a can posted:

Cool, do you know if x265 HEVC will be supported from the start? (I know it's a bit of an ask and a large number of older phones would likely not support it)

Ehhhh I can't say right now for sure, but I think so. It does support it in the iOS/tvOS version. I don't know if there's a reason it's not working right now on WinRT. But the goal is to get as many codecs as possible working. Especially since this is a UWP and you want that working beyond mobile (Xbox One, Hololens). I know one of the things they want to do is get DVD (and maybe Bluray) playback working, since I think UWP allows for access to those devices, which it was not before with 8.1. I know my dream, if I had time and energy to do it, is to get "mounting" DVDs or Blurays working in the app, so if you're on your phone or using it with continuum, you can watch full movies with menus back on it.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal

Drastic Actions posted:

Ehhhh I can't say right now for sure, but I think so. It does support it in the iOS/tvOS version. I don't know if there's a reason it's not working right now on WinRT. But the goal is to get as many codecs as possible working. Especially since this is a UWP and you want that working beyond mobile (Xbox One, Hololens). I know one of the things they want to do is get DVD (and maybe Bluray) playback working, since I think UWP allows for access to those devices, which it was not before with 8.1. I know my dream, if I had time and energy to do it, is to get "mounting" DVDs or Blurays working in the app, so if you're on your phone or using it with continuum, you can watch full movies with menus back on it.

Wow, I still can't get Blurays to run on my computer.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007
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CharlesM posted:

Wow, I still can't get Blurays to run on my computer.
This is a blessing in disguise. It's helped to give way to streaming/digitaldownload content platforms because nobody wants to deal with that bullshit.

Snakes in a can
May 14, 2014

Drastic Actions posted:

Ehhhh I can't say right now for sure, but I think so. It does support it in the iOS/tvOS version. I don't know if there's a reason it's not working right now on WinRT. But the goal is to get as many codecs as possible working. Especially since this is a UWP and you want that working beyond mobile (Xbox One, Hololens). I know one of the things they want to do is get DVD (and maybe Bluray) playback working, since I think UWP allows for access to those devices, which it was not before with 8.1. I know my dream, if I had time and energy to do it, is to get "mounting" DVDs or Blurays working in the app, so if you're on your phone or using it with continuum, you can watch full movies with menus back on it.

I've tried the WinRT VLC app and its still kinda buggy, it crashed for me as soon as i open it.

I've also found out that the native video player inbuilt supports 1080p x265 and it seams to work without any issues and also has subtitle support, i was honestly surprised. I should be getting my continuum dock soon and i intend to test the phones ability to play 4k. When you say DVD playback do you mean like plug a USB DVD/bluray drive into an xbox/continum dock (no idea if that would even work) and play from that?

xylo posted:

This is a blessing in disguise. It's helped to give way to streaming/digitaldownload content platforms because nobody wants to deal with that bullshit.

Yep, gently caress bluray DRM. Its so stupid i cant just stick a bluray into my bluray player on my pc and just play.

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost

It should not be as bad now as it was. I don't do major work on it due to my day job, but I chip in when I can.

What I mean is using the dvd or bluray drive in your computer (or mounting an image) and playing a movie with it. Just like how the desktop app works. So on phones, you can take an iso and watch a movie with it.

In terms of x265, it may already have it. I have to check.

Tivac
Feb 18, 2003

No matter how things may seem to change, never forget who you are
The super-annoying bug where swipe-typing was failing to add a space between words in Edge and some apps (like Tweetium) has apparently been fixed!

https://twitter.com/SampsonMSFT/status/694636741374771200

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


So what constitutes a good mid-range WP? Is there one that would be worth replacing a 640 with, or anything on the horizon? Right now it seems like the only choice is the 640 or 950 with no in between that isn't several years old already.

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

Yeah, I don't think the midrange is that well fleshed out at the moment. Likely better to try to wait until the W10M lineup is added to a bit, even with their new focus I have to imagine that there are a few more variants on the way.

Tesla Was Robbed
Oct 4, 2002
I AM A LIAR
There's an on again, off again maybe canceled 850 and a downgrade-from-the-640 650, and the unconfirmed surface phone.

I'm super excited for this year.

I might also be downing hallucinogenics like skittles. But I'm still excited.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

For some reason Japan is getting cool winphones and America isn't

http://www.theverge.com/2016/2/4/10912050/vaio-phone-biz-hands-on-photos

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


loquacius posted:

For some reason Japan is getting cool winphones and America isn't

http://www.theverge.com/2016/2/4/10912050/vaio-phone-biz-hands-on-photos

Wait, so is this basically a Windows Phone Xperia? Because that is exactly what I want.

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost
The design looks nice, and from the first impressions I've seen people seem to think it's fine for what it is. The specs are mixed, with a bunch of ram but an okay SOC. And continuum only supports wireless, which means making sure you get the nice miracast system, because most I've tried (besides the ScreenBeam) just don't work well. But it does the job it says it does.

And despite what they say, I still don't see how using continuum fits into business yet. Like, you still need to have a keyboard, mouse, miracast dongle, and monitor to make this setup work. So unless you happen to have this stuff around, it's still kinda pointless. I can see it as a good thin client though, especially since the remote desktop app is out, so if you go to work and plug that in, and then remote to another computer or use your phone as your only computer, maybe it would work better.

And it should also be noted that even with all the new Windows Phones released in Japan this year (of which, they were all SIM free and not on a carrier), Windows Phone market share is still 0.0. :v:

PlaneGuy
Mar 28, 2001

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Drastic Actions posted:

And despite what they say, I still don't see how using continuum fits into business yet. Like, you still need to have a keyboard, mouse, miracast dongle, and monitor to make this setup work. So unless you happen to have this stuff around, it's still kinda pointless. I can see it as a good thin client though, especially since the remote desktop app is out, so if you go to work and plug that in, and then remote to another computer or use your phone as your only computer, maybe it would work better.

Definitely for thin clients, but some users just don't need anything more than email, web, and office by nature of their jobs. Another thing that's happening is a lot of LOB stuff is going web-based since users want to BYOD so a good browser is really all you need to do your work. Anyone who doesn't BYOD gets a continuum setup and you've got your workstation and corporate phone covered.

Sri.Theo
Apr 16, 2008
Is there a twitter app that will automatically auto upload and link photos you select?

I just want to make a post and attach a photo without fuss.

TopherCStone
Feb 27, 2013

I am very important and deserve your attention
So now that I have a 640XL as of a few minutes ago, I'm considering trying the Windows 10 mobile preview again. Anybody using it on the 640XL?

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Can't speak for the XL, but on the regular 640 it's a no-brainer.

TopherCStone
Feb 27, 2013

I am very important and deserve your attention
Went ahead and installed it. Had a little bit of initial weirdness, but now that everything's updated and running it's stable and works at least as well as 8.1 did.

Snakes in a can
May 14, 2014

I've done a battery test on my 950xl, I get around 3:30 hours of heavy use before the battery is at 5%. This is no use of the battery saver mode.

Heavy use for me is using the gba emulator. So mileage might vary.

Next I am going to try videos with and with out the battery saver and the same with music streaming and then playing locally.

Apparently new firmware and Redstone updates might be happening this month, so that could dramatically make the battery life better or even worse. Unlucky at&t 950/xl owners.

OldPueblo
May 2, 2007

Likes to argue. Wins arguments with ignorant people. Not usually against educated people, just ignorant posters. Bing it.

Snakes in a can posted:

I've done a battery test on my 950xl, I get around 3:30 hours of heavy use before the battery is at 5%. This is no use of the battery saver mode.

Heavy use for me is using the gba emulator. So mileage might vary.

Next I am going to try videos with and with out the battery saver and the same with music streaming and then playing locally.

Apparently new firmware and Redstone updates might be happening this month, so that could dramatically make the battery life better or even worse. Unlucky at&t 950/xl owners.

Out of curiosity under battery saver what does it say drains the phone the most in the last 24 hours? I don't have any one thing for me that sticks out app-wise, but it says 61% screen which seems odd since I have the brightness at 25% auto adjust (still plenty bright for me). I'd hate to see it when it's set at 50% or whatever else regular people put it at. Regardless, my battery usage has been fine for me.

Mr Funkface
Dec 21, 2009
omg th update process to WP10 preview is loving painful.

First Windows Insider downloads everything onto the SD then throws a shitfit that there is no support for install-from-SD. Removed SD then another error about low phone storage so I hard reset, and now Windows Insider insists there's a connection problem maybe check your time settings, an error which dates back to Aug 2015. No loving around with restart and SD in/out, no restore. So now I'm back at square 1 waiting for all my poo poo to restore back to where it was.

Lumia 640 Dual Sim. What am I doing wrong? Other than even trying.

Snakes in a can
May 14, 2014

OldPueblo posted:

Out of curiosity under battery saver what does it say drains the phone the most in the last 24 hours? I don't have any one thing for me that sticks out app-wise, but it says 61% screen which seems odd since I have the brightness at 25% auto adjust (still plenty bright for me). I'd hate to see it when it's set at 50% or whatever else regular people put it at. Regardless, my battery usage has been fine for me.



Results are probably skewed as I have been using it all Moring.

wookieepelt
Jul 23, 2009

Mr Funkface posted:

omg th update process to WP10 preview is loving painful.

First Windows Insider downloads everything onto the SD then throws a shitfit that there is no support for install-from-SD. Removed SD then another error about low phone storage so I hard reset, and now Windows Insider insists there's a connection problem maybe check your time settings, an error which dates back to Aug 2015. No loving around with restart and SD in/out, no restore. So now I'm back at square 1 waiting for all my poo poo to restore back to where it was.

Lumia 640 Dual Sim. What am I doing wrong? Other than even trying.

I have a 640XL and haven't had any of these issues. I have all media and all apps that allow it on my SD card. Insider updates install just fine. How much storage space is left in your device?

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Mr Funkface
Dec 21, 2009

wookieepelt posted:

I have a 640XL and haven't had any of these issues. I have all media and all apps that allow it on my SD card. Insider updates install just fine. How much storage space is left in your device?

2.15 GB phone, 49.98 GB SD, according to Storage Sense. Did you need to take the SD out to install WP10? D/L and install on SD by default if SD is not supported for OS install is dumb af.

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