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hostile apostle
Aug 29, 2006
:stadia::stadia::stadia::stadia::stadia:
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AH-64 Apache's gun-to-helmet tracking system
https://zippy.gfycat.com/QueasyWhoppingAfricanharrierhawk

Loading the first 30mm round in an Apache
http://gfycat.com/JubilantLonelyGoldeneye

RAF Apache plinking in Libya
http://gfycat.com/FrequentBrightDromedary

Apache flare maneuvers
http://gfycat.com/AgileReasonableHornedviper

Excerpt from from Apache: Inside the Cockpit of the World’s Most Deadly Fighting Machine

quote:

As the most technically advanced helicopter in the world, the Apache AH Mk1 was also the hardest to fly…. To train each Apache pilot from scratch cost £3 million (each custom-made helmet alone had a price tag of £22,915). It took six months just to learn how to fly the machine, another six to know how to fight in it, and a final six to be passed combat ready. And that was if you were already a fully qualified, combat-trained army helicopter pilot. If you weren’t, you’d have to add four months for ground school and learning to fly fixed wing at RAF Barkston Heath, six months learning to fly helicopters at RAF Shawbury, half a year at the School of Army Aviation learning to fly tactically, and a final sixteen-week course in Survival, Evasion and Resistance to Interrogation, courtesy of the Intelligence Corps’ most vigorous training staff. Three years in total….

Flying an Apache almost always meant both hands and feet doing four different things at once. Even our eyes had to learn how to work independently of each other. A monocle sat permanently over our right iris. A dozen different instrument readings from around the cockpit were projected into it. At the flick of a button, a range of other images could also be superimposed underneath the green glow of the instrument symbology, replicating the TADS’ or PNVS’ camera images and the Longbow Radars’ targets.

The monocle left the pilot’s left eye free to look outside the cockpit, saving him the few seconds that it took to look down at the instruments and then up again…. New pilots suffered terrible headaches as the left and right eye competed for dominance. They started within minutes, long before take-off…. As the eyes adjusted over the following weeks and months the headaches took longer to set in. It was a year before mine disappeared altogether…. I once filmed my face during a sortie with a video camera as an experiment. My eyes whirled independently of each other throughout, like a man possessed.

hostile apostle fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Feb 3, 2016

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Elendil004
Mar 22, 2003

The prognosis
is not good.


Let's not forget the crazy badasses that strapped commandos to the sides of an Apache to attempt a rescue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epyJl6btNq8

I believe the author of the above book was one of the pilots.

Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.

That's loving rad. What was that hot garbage Nicholas cage Apache movie again? I think I need to watch it.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Blind Rasputin posted:

That's loving rad. What was that hot garbage Nicholas cage Apache movie again? I think I need to watch it.



Firebirds

Elendil004
Mar 22, 2003

The prognosis
is not good.


Blind Rasputin posted:

That's loving rad. What was that hot garbage Nicholas cage Apache movie again? I think I need to watch it.

Firebirds.

Featuring: "I AM THE GREATEST"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FyuHA_zAOM

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

hostile apostle posted:

Loading the first 30mm round in an Apache
http://gfycat.com/JubilantLonelyGoldeneye

Here's the video that came from showing the entire loading process from start to finish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI4Qiccct40

Including the part where they can't get it to feed and just go "gently caress it" and start ripping them out of the links to put each round on the conveyor one at a time.

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



Chinatown posted:

Hamas just developed their own tank. Impressive.





:flaccid:


:dong:

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


I can confirm that Apache by Ed Macey is a drat good book. The training aspect and the technicals get a little too bothersome at a point though.

I'm saying that as a non-service member.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

Elendil004 posted:

Let's not forget the crazy badasses that strapped commandos to the sides of an Apache to attempt a rescue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epyJl6btNq8

I believe the author of the above book was one of the pilots.

What do you bet they got no rating for hearing loss

Syrian Lannister
Aug 25, 2007

Oh, did I kill him too?
I've been a very busy little man.


Sugartime Jones
Was that a grounding strap, comms cable or both he plugged into the bird?

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Syrian Lannister posted:

Was that a grounding strap, comms cable or both he plugged into the bird?

His gigantic sack.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

go3 posted:

What do you bet they got no rating for hearing loss

Do infantry/Marines generally wear earpro in a combat setting? Even regular foamie earplugs would be mostly good against jet noise, even from up close like that. I'm not saying it wouldn't be loud, but it wouldn't be skull-fuckingly-loud, like it would be to bare ears.

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

MrYenko posted:

Do infantry/Marines generally wear earpro in a combat setting? Even regular foamie earplugs would be mostly good against jet noise, even from up close like that. I'm not saying it wouldn't be loud, but it wouldn't be skull-fuckingly-loud, like it would be to bare ears.

No. I've seen photos of some SF types using the ear pro that only blocks loud sounds but I never saw it being used on deployment when I was a grunt.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Bad TOW related day for a pro-Assad 14.5mm gunner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi99U90vMDc

The Slithery D
Jul 19, 2012

Brown Moses posted:

Bad TOW related day for a pro-Assad 14.5mm gunner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi99U90vMDc

Shaped charges can't melt steel 14.5mm. At least if they hit the wall behind them.

And any explosion you can fall away from is a good one.

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe
nice fall there

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

There's no way that dude lived, right?

Slim Pickens
Jan 12, 2007

Grimey Drawer

Reverand maynard posted:

No. I've seen photos of some SF types using the ear pro that only blocks loud sounds but I never saw it being used on deployment when I was a grunt.

Aside from the mic placement making you aurally blind from the rear, peltors/sordins are great but were only issued to sof units I think. If you see a grunt with some they probably bought them, but I'm not sure if the army started buying them after '09 or what

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


Nostalgia4Dicks posted:

There's no way that dude lived, right?

I'd expect that the overpressure from the explosion caused all kinds of fun internal injuries.

The Slithery D
Jul 19, 2012

Nostalgia4Dicks posted:

There's no way that dude lived, right?

I thought I saw a couple of them run away at the end.

Diarrhea Elemental
Apr 2, 2012

Am I correct in my assumption, you fish-faced enemy of the people?

Slim Pickens posted:

Aside from the mic placement making you aurally blind from the rear, peltors/sordins are great but were only issued to sof units I think. If you see a grunt with some they probably bought them, but I'm not sure if the army started buying them after '09 or what

I'm amazed someone from one of the dev shops that the bearded ninjas work with hasn't come up with something a whole hell of a lot better yet.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Nostalgia4Dicks posted:

There's no way that dude lived, right?

Assuming that the neurons in his brain aren't lightly whipped, his lungs probably both popped like balloons.

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u

Slim Pickens posted:

Aside from the mic placement making you aurally blind from the rear, peltors/sordins are great but were only issued to sof units I think. If you see a grunt with some they probably bought them, but I'm not sure if the army started buying them after '09 or what

I've got some Howard Leights which are probably the same thing. Me and my wife have a pair each for the range, and one of them has something going on with the mics because if I turn 90 degrees to something I have become Daredevil. Like, hear conversation across the street type stuff.

The Slithery D
Jul 19, 2012

Zeroisanumber posted:

Assuming that the neurons in his brain aren't lightly whipped, his lungs probably both popped like balloons.

Shaped charge, power of an explosion drops as a square ratio of distance. Rolled steel penetration in front of the warhead is going to do a surprisingly low fraction of that force to a dude a few feet behind it. Wikipedia claims the biggest TOW warheads are 13.5 pounds of explosive. That's a big less than the Comp B or TNT in a 155mm shell, but with less shrapnel risk, excepting whatever concrete flakes blew back.

Random explosions are more potentially survivable than you think.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Brown Moses posted:

Bad TOW related day for a pro-Assad 14.5mm gunner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi99U90vMDc

What was going in at the beginning? I see a bunch of flashes that look like they're coming from the middle of the cinder block wall, not from that open area later hit by the tow. Was that outgoing fire from the building?

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



FOURTH WAVE LESBRO posted:

I'm amazed someone from one of the dev shops that the bearded ninjas work with hasn't come up with something a whole hell of a lot better yet.

The Comtac IVs actually leave the ear open and have the sound mic on the side in more of a boom configuration instead of the forward facing ones on the previous models. Whether or not that increases aural awareness, I don't know, but they look a hell of a lot more comfier than the previous ones in that they don't cover your ears up. Instead they have a little earbud-esque plug in piece. Kinda neat, actually.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

The Slithery D posted:

Shaped charge, power of an explosion drops as a square ratio of distance. Rolled steel penetration in front of the warhead is going to do a surprisingly low fraction of that force to a dude a few feet behind it. Wikipedia claims the biggest TOW warheads are 13.5 pounds of explosive. That's a big less than the Comp B or TNT in a 155mm shell, but with less shrapnel risk, excepting whatever concrete flakes blew back.

Random explosions are more potentially survivable than you think.

That's actually a really good video demonstrating the downsides to trying to use HEAT for anti-personnel work. Not only did one guy manage to remain conscious and evacuate (albeit poorly), the gun is still standing on its tripod.

The Slithery D
Jul 19, 2012
If you take a CDE course you'll learn that kill radius for blast is a fraction of shrapnel or building ejecta for the big bombs, and that's for non shaped munitions.

Ikasuhito
Sep 29, 2013

Haram as Fuck.

Ron Jeremy posted:

What was going in at the beginning? I see a bunch of flashes that look like they're coming from the middle of the cinder block wall, not from that open area later hit by the tow. Was that outgoing fire from the building?

Muzzle flash. If you look closely you can see that the gunner had the MG pointed to the left of the building.


Actually looking at it that guy didn't fall off on purpose, he was sitting on the wall as his firing position.The explosion broke off the piece of wall he was straddling.

Ikasuhito fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Feb 5, 2016

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

not caring here posted:

I've got some Howard Leights which are probably the same thing. Me and my wife have a pair each for the range, and one of them has something going on with the mics because if I turn 90 degrees to something I have become Daredevil. Like, hear conversation across the street type stuff.

Like these? I've been toying with the idea of getting something like this for a while.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

The Slithery D posted:

Shaped charge, power of an explosion drops as a square ratio of distance.

The cube. The explosion is filling a volume in space, not the surface of a sphere.

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u

Godholio posted:

Like these? I've been toying with the idea of getting something like this for a while.

Ever so slightly different, but yeah.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001T7QJ9O?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage

These are prettly slim so they gently caress with me less when I'm lying down and don't butt up against the stock (as much).

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
Hm, I like those better.

The Slithery D
Jul 19, 2012

Phanatic posted:

The cube. The explosion is filling a volume in space, not the surface of a sphere.

Square. The blast is a two dimensional blast front, it is exactly the surface of a sphere. If you've every seen a good video of a 2000 lb bomb you see the ring of the blast expand outward through the terrain along the ground.

Edit: I think the best ones are actually showing air compression on the blast front because of humidity, actually.

The Slithery D fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Feb 5, 2016

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



not caring here posted:

Ever so slightly different, but yeah.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001T7QJ9O?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage

These are prettly slim so they gently caress with me less when I'm lying down and don't butt up against the stock (as much).

I've got a pair of these and can confirm, they rock socks for shooting.

Naked Bear
Apr 15, 2007

Boners was recorded before a studio audience that was alive!
Howard Leights own bones. Probably never going to buy another pair of muffs again unless/until these crap out.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

The Slithery D posted:

Square. The blast is a two dimensional blast front, it is exactly the surface of a sphere. If you've every seen a good video of a 2000 lb bomb you see the ring of the blast expand outward through the terrain along the ground.

Blast effects are proportional to energy per unit *volume*. Want to kill people twice as far away from your bomb, you need need a bomb 8 times the size, not four times.

Consider: you set off your bomb, and you turn your explosive material into an equal volume of superheated gas. That gas is going to rapidly expand to fill a volume. Yes, the surface of that volume is a two-dimensional sphere, but the energy of the explosion is not all that interface, it's occupying the entire volume. And as it's expanding, it's cooling.

Anytime you're dealing with blast effects, cube root scaling shows up all over the place.

http://www.prr.hec.gov.pk/chapters/769s-3.pdf

It's how you predict (or begin to, there are obviously other factors) minimum safe distances:

https://www.vcalc.com/wiki/cataustria/Hopkinson-Cranz+Scaling+Law+%28Cube-Root+Scaling+Law%29
http://www.un.org/disarmament/un-saferguard/hopkinson-cranz/

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004

CHILD RAPE IS FINE WHEN I LIKE THE RAPIST
http://teaheadsets.com/index.php/rac.html

the new hotness in headsets, still too hot and you cant hear poo poo behind you

i looked at those comtac ivs and they look neat but i wonder if bone conduction setups arent better

The Slithery D
Jul 19, 2012

Thank you for sending me to a Pakistan government site devoted to explosives.

:nsa:

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darnon
Nov 8, 2009

Godholio posted:

Hm, I like those better.

Although keep in mind those slim Howard Leights are only 22 db NRR versus the 30 of the larger ones. So especially indoors it's recommended to double up (wear foam earplugs) due to the lower protection rating. That's assuming you're using them for shooting and not, like, mowing your lawn or whatever.

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