QuantaStarFire posted:

Everyone is Australian tomorrow, yes.

LordSaturn posted:

What the gently caress are you talking about, this is like the one time where Silent Storm's walking tanks would actually make sense.

quote:

According to the Xenonauts 2 website, developer Goldhawk Interactive cites the release of 2K Games’ XCOM 2 as the reason for renewed interest in the Xenonauts series.

Zaphod42 posted:

I'm not entirely sure that makes sense, guys...

FlyingCowOfDoom posted:

Cheers mate!

LinkesAuge posted:

It translates to: "Hey, look at all of this hype for Xcom2, seems like people want more even after X-Com and Xenonauts so let's also do another one before someone else does".

Thyrork posted:

I like humans having psionics! Its a really cool power set but Xenonauts omitting them also opened up more wiggle room to give the alien's one last great weapon... and for you to feel really good about slugging said weapon in the face with a mag cannon because we overcome the Praetor's with superior technology.

Zaphod42 posted:

Right, but interest in the AAA polished X-COM doesn't necessarily translate into more sales for indie Xenonauts, if anything I would think the opposite. The competition is bad for them, xenonauts was best before X-COM ever came out and it was like the modern indie X-com thing, then XCOM came out and everybody liked it. I guess some people still like xenonauts too, sure, but I feel like that's gonna be a tiny niche audience. I backed xenonauts before it was out and played it some, but I played XCOM a whole lot more. Its kinda apples and oranges, but I feel like the apples appeal to more people and both have to compete in the same space, in this case.

Zaphod42 posted:

Why can't it be both? The thing I always wanted from X-COM sequels was more diverse technology trees, but we have yet to really get that.

I want it to be possible to put off lasers and make better ballistic guns, or go into lasers early and then get something beyond plasma.

Dominic White posted:

One review skirted around details, but semi-spoiled/confirmed what a lot of people had been theorizing regarding the prequel novel.

Word is that poo poo Gets Real in the latter half of the campaign and a whole new set of alien enemies come into play. I'm guessing stuff from the quarantine zones mentioned?

The Iron Rose posted:

I sexually identify as a XFS-105 Raven Interceptor.

I have finally found the strength to admit it.

I was 12 years old when I realized that I’m not really a man at heart, but rather a 19 foot, 10.5 inch long gatling gun strapped onto a 24,959 pound airframe.

All my life has been a lie but I’m setting that right today. I was designed to kill Alien Supply Barges. From now on, call me “Raven-1.” That’s my real name.

I’m having plastic surgeons attach a Phoenix 30 milimeter rotary Cannon, 1,200 pounds of titanium armor, and two TF34-GE-100 Elerium Afterburners to my body. Central Officer Bradford said I’m loving stupid and I can’t be a jet, but I’m beautiful and I am a goddamn jet.

If XCOM won’t pay for me to get the surgery, I’m just going to bring in Code Pink and point out that that Manning loser is getting hormones and he’s in a gene clinic so why shouldn’t a perfectly well-adjusted and honorably serving soldier have the right to be who they truly are, a metal killing machine?

I am so sick and tired of being oppressed. Now we Ravens are on the Council's chopping block. It’s sickening to see all the white cisgender nazi shitlords literally raping my people with their actions.

It’s my right to spray 2,100 to 4,200 depleted uranium rounds per minute at both soft and hard targets and if you don’t support me and my transformation then you’re an aerialphobe and need to check your weapon platform privilege.

The Iron Rose posted:

I sexually identify as a XFS-105 Raven Interceptor.

I have finally found the strength to admit it.

I was 12 years old when I realized that I’m not really a man at heart, but rather a 19 foot, 10.5 inch long gatling gun strapped onto a 24,959 pound airframe.

All my life has been a lie but I’m setting that right today. I was designed to kill Alien Supply Barges. From now on, call me “Raven-1.” That’s my real name.

I’m having plastic surgeons attach a Phoenix 30 milimeter rotary Cannon, 1,200 pounds of titanium armor, and two TF34-GE-100 Elerium Afterburners to my body. Central Officer Bradford said I’m loving stupid and I can’t be a jet, but I’m beautiful and I am a goddamn jet.

If XCOM won’t pay for me to get the surgery, I’m just going to bring in Code Pink and point out that that Manning loser is getting hormones and he’s in a gene clinic so why shouldn’t a perfectly well-adjusted and honorably serving soldier have the right to be who they truly are, a metal killing machine?

I am so sick and tired of being oppressed. Now we Ravens are on the Council's chopping block. It’s sickening to see all the white cisgender nazi shitlords literally raping my people with their actions.

It’s my right to spray 2,100 to 4,200 depleted uranium rounds per minute at both soft and hard targets and if you don’t support me and my transformation then you’re an aerialphobe and need to check your weapon platform privilege.

splifyphus posted:

They haven't. There are still three tiers of firearms and armor. The order that you can get some items is pretty random though.

winterwerefox posted:

LinkesAuge posted:

I think this is a case where the "smaller" game profits from the bigger one because it simply creates awareness of the genre and due to the fact that there aren't really many TBS games like these around there shouldn't really be any real competition between them, it's a space that really doesn't get filled. I'm not saying that everyone who is into XCom2 will be interested in Xenonauts2 but there is certainly enough overlapp to make it interesting for such a small studio.

Sylphosaurus posted:

Yeah, I'm actually a bit disappointed that plasma seems to be the final weapon tier this time around as well. I was kind of hoping that we'd get an entire weapon line based on the Alloy Cannon this time around but it's all beam plasma guns, unless Firaxis has managed to keep a fourth weapon tier secret.

Zaphod42 posted:

Yeah that's entirely possible too. And I'm no business expert.


Yep. At least there's good mod support now

Lets bring in the TFTD lines (Gauss weapons, Sonic weaopns) as alternative advancement trees with advantages / disadvantages over laser/plasma.

Ideally you'd be in a situation where you could have like, Gauss, Sonic and Laser, or Gauss, Laser and Plasma, but not all 4. Something like that, where you have to pick which to commit to but each has tactical advantages, so that you might still want to have a couple guys with laser weapons even after you get sonic weapons, or a couple guys with gauss even after you get plasma, that'd be great.

E: Maybe some aliens have resistance to lasers but weakness to gauss, and others are vise versa? Or one can shoot through buildings better or something like that, IDK. Maybe one has a higher chance of hit but the other does more damage? Lots of ways you could vary up the tech.

RBA Starblade posted:

If you got it from GMG, did you get the digital deluxe preload or just the regular? I bought the DD edition but can't tell if that's what I received. I got the resistance warrior pack though.

winterwerefox posted:

Lunethex posted:

No snakes?

SinineSiil posted:

Just check here https://store.steampowered.com/account/licenses/

Serious Frolicking posted:

Yeah, while all of these really ambitious total conversions will never, ever get made mucking about with the tech trees and adding new guns is available from day one. Once people have made some gun models (and sister, will they ever make some gun models) taking those and changing the stats to your preference should be trivially easy.

There is even already an example for weapons doing bonus damage what with all the stuff with mechs. Tinkering with preexisting systems is obviously easier than creating them from scratch.

Zomborgon posted:

The simplest way to add weapon classes would be to have one with higher crit rate and accuracy and the other with better base damage. I'd lean towards kinetics for the former and energy for the latter, unless perhaps you want to match explosive rounds with high-accuracy lasers. One has high-damage shots with a notable chance to do no damage vs. low-damage shots that have a notable chance to get good damage. Seems fairly balanced.

Without more (vanilla) stats to trick out, and range already dictated by class, that would seem simplest. The only other simple stat could be disallowing weapon add-ons; having higher-than-average overall stats could trump adaptability.

Splash damage or debuffs could be a thing, but that leaves all sorts of other concerns. Ammo mods already do most of that, anyway.

Icon Of Sin posted:

Maybe some sidewinder missiles

Lunethex posted:

No snakes?

LibbyM posted:

I'm finding Jake Solomon's likeness to be very lacking in that dev pack.

winterwerefox posted:

Hrm.. something along the lines of

Ballistics>Gauss>Gravitic :Pure Damage tree
v
Laser>Plasma :Accuracy/Damage
v
Beam :Accuracy/Crit

Base Ballistics 2-4
Gauss 4-6 dmg
Laser 3-5 dmg +5 Acc
Gravitic 6-8 dmg
Plasma 5-7 dmg +5 Acc
Beam 4-6 dmg +5 Acc +5 crit

With going to t3 in any one branch locking you out of t3 in the other branches. Perhaps a plot devices that is used on researching that tier, and you only get 1 of them per in game year or some such.

AlternateAccount posted:

The fact that Jake's nickname is TEARDRINKER is absolutely glorious.

Soothing Vapors posted:

it's Hot Load and nothing he can ever do will change that