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banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




Tonight I had a 1 hull Dash kill a full health Poe who regenned about 5-6 shields throughout the fight.

ahhhhhh stop making me want to take Dash to store champs game...stop it

banned from Starbucks fucked around with this message at 12:31 on Feb 4, 2016

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EdBlackadder
Apr 8, 2009
Lipstick Apathy

Ringo Star Get posted:

TFA Core Set, OT Core Set, Xwing, YWing, BWing expansion, TIE Phantom and Defender expansion, Imperial Aces.

I'm not great at this but my black imperial heart says Whisper or Echo and a mini swarm sort.

Herux
Dec 1, 2013
Been Playing wings for a few months and lurking the thread for a while but just wanted to stop by and thank whoever invented "WOP WOP WOP" or as I like to call it "PALPY-WOP aka Hey what's up hello." Whisper+OL+Palp is super fun to fly especially against my usual opponents who run all sorts of odd ywing+bwing nonsense. I honestly thought making the Omi into Yorr was a waste until I managed to pull a decloack boost --> 3k --> barrel roll(that is legal right since stress transfers to yorr?) I have never gotten the chance to play @ any sort of official place so my knowledge comes from thread+reading+youtube but I wanted to see if there was anyone who could show me Vassal(EST) or was in the NY Long Island area who would want to fly some wings? I fly mainly Imperials like TRI-ACE builds or palp escort lists.

Tekopo
Oct 24, 2008

When you see it, you'll shit yourself.


Been watching Star Wars Rebels on and off the last week and after finishing season 1 I'm pretty hyped for the next wave! Need to see season 2 which I've heard is even better. I'm pretty impressed at season 1 anyway, it's got a very nice OT Star Wars feel to it.

Dimo ArKacho
Sep 12, 2008

I'm not creative enough to come up with something good

Herux posted:

Been Playing wings for a few months and lurking the thread for a while but just wanted to stop by and thank whoever invented "WOP WOP WOP" or as I like to call it "PALPY-WOP aka Hey what's up hello." Whisper+OL+Palp is super fun to fly especially against my usual opponents who run all sorts of odd ywing+bwing nonsense. I honestly thought making the Omi into Yorr was a waste until I managed to pull a decloack boost --> 3k --> barrel roll(that is legal right since stress transfers to yorr?) I have never gotten the chance to play @ any sort of official place so my knowledge comes from thread+reading+youtube but I wanted to see if there was anyone who could show me Vassal(EST) or was in the NY Long Island area who would want to fly some wings? I fly mainly Imperials like TRI-ACE builds or palp escort lists.

gently caress. I moved away just recently, and would've been down to shoot some wangs. Whereabouts are you? I might be making a trip back sometime soon.

guts and bolts
May 16, 2015

Have you heard the Good News?

Herux posted:

Been Playing wings for a few months and lurking the thread for a while but just wanted to stop by and thank whoever invented "WOP WOP WOP" or as I like to call it "PALPY-WOP aka Hey what's up hello." Whisper+OL+Palp is super fun to fly especially against my usual opponents who run all sorts of odd ywing+bwing nonsense. I honestly thought making the Omi into Yorr was a waste until I managed to pull a decloack boost --> 3k --> barrel roll(that is legal right since stress transfers to yorr?) I have never gotten the chance to play @ any sort of official place so my knowledge comes from thread+reading+youtube but I wanted to see if there was anyone who could show me Vassal(EST) or was in the NY Long Island area who would want to fly some wings? I fly mainly Imperials like TRI-ACE builds or palp escort lists.

Yorr works by immediately taking the stress at the moment it is assigned; the stress token never even goes to Whisper, so you are free to take actions (and, more importantly, get your re-cloak for shooting). In my mind, Yorr is absolutely worth the investment of points, even if you have to lose the Stealth Device on Omega Leader to get there. Being able to freely SLoop and KTurn with your aces while the space cow takes up space and provides supplementary fire is incredibly dangerous, and your opponent needs to respect the option for you to pull off some truly nasty poo poo; moreover, it encourages aggressive shuttle flying, which is good, because the guns are good.

In store league for Feb/Mar, my WOP list has taken a combined 7 damage, and 100-0'd both games, for a 2-0 start. It's legit.


Tekopo posted:

Been watching Star Wars Rebels on and off the last week and after finishing season 1 I'm pretty hyped for the next wave! Need to see season 2 which I've heard is even better. I'm pretty impressed at season 1 anyway, it's got a very nice OT Star Wars feel to it.

Rebels is good and gets better. The start isn't as bad as I thought it would be, and the show very quickly dispenses with its toddler-show trappings and becomes pretty fun. It's definitely still a show aimed at younger minds, and new, upcoming fans of the franchise, but there's call backs and nostalgia trips, too.

Hera started out as my favorite, but she's slipped behind Chopper and Kanan now. Most of the crew of the Ghost is pretty great.

Tekopo
Oct 24, 2008

When you see it, you'll shit yourself.


Yeah, Chopper is great. Loved the bit where he just out and out pushes another astromech out of the ghost and all of the other members of the Ghost look shocked.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

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I ran a Yorr list myself for store championships.

Academy Pilot
Yorr + Darth Vader
Omega Leader
Soontir

OL and Soontir had their standard loadout.

Going into store championships I was like 20 and 3 with the list, and the ones I'd lost were all super close. Then I did really lovely at the store championships itself. :(

guts and bolts
May 16, 2015

Have you heard the Good News?

ConfusedUs posted:

I ran a Yorr list myself for store championships.

Academy Pilot
Yorr + Darth Vader
Omega Leader
Soontir

OL and Soontir had their standard loadout.

Going into store championships I was like 20 and 3 with the list, and the ones I'd lost were all super close. Then I did really lovely at the store championships itself. :(

I think part of the problem is that four-ship Empire lists just strike me as inherently weak; ideally you want to go 5+ or 3, based on my listbuilding experience, or you run the risk of creating weird gaps in what your list can fly against. Whisper with Palp dicehax is a genuinely terrifying board presence, but Omega Leader is the kind of ship you genuinely cannot leave on the board last, so people are stuck with a "what the gently caress do I even shoot at first" problem that you can exacerbate with your starting setup.

I'm curious as to how you dealt with high-PS opponents, because that's what worries me the most right now with WOP (that, and Brobots), and on paper, if I was going to run four ships I'd probably run something like what you've got here.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

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guts and bolts posted:

I think part of the problem is that four-ship Empire lists just strike me as inherently weak; ideally you want to go 5+ or 3, based on my listbuilding experience, or you run the risk of creating weird gaps in what your list can fly against. Whisper with Palp dicehax is a genuinely terrifying board presence, but Omega Leader is the kind of ship you genuinely cannot leave on the board last, so people are stuck with a "what the gently caress do I even shoot at first" problem that you can exacerbate with your starting setup.

I'm curious as to how you dealt with high-PS opponents, because that's what worries me the most right now with WOP (that, and Brobots), and on paper, if I was going to run four ships I'd probably run something like what you've got here.

High PS opponents didn't really bother me. That's what the Doomshuttle was for. It was usually pretty easy to tell where they were going (ie not in front of the doomshuttle) so the rest of the list would just pounce on them. Or if they DID joust the shuttle, even better.

I've nuked every common PS9-11 ace with that list at least once.

The biggest problem with my list was low burst damage once the shuttle was gone, especially against other high-agility opponents. O'Leader does his work over time. Soontir without a targeting computer does moderate damage. lol@academy pilot.

I basically either won in the first few rounds, or the match lasted forever.

I've switched to a variant that seems much more offensive but far less defensive. I want to see how it plays out.

OGP shuttle with Palp
Wampa
O'Leader (Juke, CommRelay)
Vader (VI, title, ATC)

Played it three times last night. Lost once, but by the skin of my teeth, against a 3x Y-Wing & HWK turret list. A couple of dice rolls the other way would have got me the win.

Edit: One of my pre-tournament losses was to a 3-ship all PS10 list though. Poe, Corran, Airen Cracken. But other than VI Vader not really sure what I would do different to counter that anyway. :)

ConfusedUs fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Feb 4, 2016

Herux
Dec 1, 2013

Dimo ArKacho posted:

gently caress. I moved away just recently, and would've been down to shoot some wangs. Whereabouts are you? I might be making a trip back sometime soon.

Smithtown area, Suffolk County L.I. If you know a decent shop that plays wangs I would also be interested in maybe giving that a shot as well.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




-4 Binayre Pirates with Hull Upgrade and Feedback Array

-Talonbane Cobra with VI and Glitterstim

-OR-

-Kavil with VI, Unhinged Astromech, and TLT

I can't decide for league tonight.

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



I've had fun with Talonbane and lightning reflexes. One-time use to make a 1-hard turn into a short T-roll, then he takes his space-meth? Yes please

Finster Dexter
Oct 20, 2014

Beyond is Finster's mad vision of Earth transformed.
So, a few weeks back I played against a guy who had a Decimator list with kenkirk+Isard+RebelCaptive+Gunner+VI and swore up and down it was the best Decimator list.

So, last night I took it up against a Rebel Aces list (Regen Poe + Regen RedAce + Stresshog) and holy balls it was annoying. I dispatched the stresshog early, so it was my Kenkirk+Whisper against Poe and RedAce. The person I was playing kinda floated Poe around the asteroids in the middle a bit so I focused on RedAce (who was green maneuvering almost the whole game to regen shields off Artoo) and Kenkirk just could. not. close. the deal. It was a battle of attrition and my poor job of flying Whisper combined with Kenkirk's lack of offensive punch couldn't get through RedAce's shields before Poe showed up and plinked away at the Deci.

Also, Rebel Captive is overrated, I think, at least against rebel aces. Regen aces don't give a care about a little stress against Decimator.

Next round, I'm going to do the more standard RAC with Vader+Gunner and see if I like it any better. Whisper was fun, and was the first time I'd really used it at all. I need some practice with it, but it felt agile and effective, even with the decloak nerf. I just have to practice avoiding obstacles.

lazerus06
May 19, 2004
Started getting into this game around Christmas, going to a tournament this weekend so I will probably be crushed. Here is what I am thinking of using:

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Galactic%20Empire&d=v4!s!28:18:-1:15:;62:18:-1:15:;68:110,53:-1:-1:&sn=Interceptor%2FDefender

Tekopo
Oct 24, 2008

When you see it, you'll shit yourself.


Do you have access to Stealth Devices? Mangler on a TIE Defender and any ordnance is wasted, to be honest, you are doing pretty good damage anyway on 3 dice.

lazerus06
May 19, 2004
Yes I do, I figured the mangler cannon would be good on this ship to get some crits.

Tekopo
Oct 24, 2008

When you see it, you'll shit yourself.


Mangler is pretty good but only in specific situations, IMO. Ten Numb (B-Wing pilot that has unavoidable crits) loves it, some IG-88 builds make use of it, Dash can use it if you hate donut holes and the Scyk can use it (lol). If you have 3 dice already there isn't as much value.

lazerus06
May 19, 2004
Another build I was thinking of:
https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Galactic%20Empire&d=v4!s!28:18:-1:15:;23::-1:15:;179:18,-1:-1:1:;180:-1:-1:1:&sn=Star%20Wolves

Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.

I'm not good at this, but I'm pretty sure Soontir will make a better use of that Stealth Device than a TIE/fo. It's also more fragile. Do you have imperial Aces to use the Interceptor Royal Guard Title?

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

KongGeorgeVII posted:

So I wanted some acrylic templates and tokens but buying official ffg ones on ebay is ridiculously expensive. I also couldn't find any third party options that I liked so I designed a fairly minimalist set of tokens and got them laser cut myself. I'm pretty happy with the end result and I think it was probably cheaper than buying everything from someone else.



20 shields, 10 focus, 10 evades, 10 stress, 8 target locks, 4 ion, 4 crits, 4 tractor beams, 4 extra munitions, 3 cloaks, 2 can't fire, 2 ship markers, 1 of each major bomb (excluding clusters because they are bad) and a full set of templates including split range rulers.

Can you share your templates? We will (eventually) be getting our laser cutter commissioned at my hackspace and I'd love to make some plywood tokens.

lazerus06
May 19, 2004

Fat Samurai posted:

I'm not good at this, but I'm pretty sure Soontir will make a better use of that Stealth Device than a TIE/fo. It's also more fragile. Do you have imperial Aces to use the Interceptor Royal Guard Title?

Yes I do have Imp Aces, good call on making Soontir a little less fragile. My plan was go get Omega Ace and Epsilon attacking from the front(getting Omega Ace up close to get the 3 crits) and Soontir and Alpha getting behind.

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



Tekopo posted:

Mangler is pretty good but only in specific situations, IMO. Ten Numb (B-Wing pilot that has unavoidable crits) loves it, some IG-88 builds make use of it, Dash can use it if you hate donut holes and the Scyk can use it (lol). If you have 3 dice already there isn't as much value.

Another one is with Bossk. Turn 1 hit->crit, then turn that crit->2 hits per his pilot ability.

TKIY
Nov 6, 2012
Grimey Drawer

thespaceinvader posted:

Can you share your templates? We will (eventually) be getting our laser cutter commissioned at my hackspace and I'd love to make some plywood tokens.

+1 to this request. I have a local guys doing acrylic and ply/MDF and would love a set of these.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




Admiral Joeslop posted:

-4 Binayre Pirates with Hull Upgrade and Feedback Array

-Talonbane Cobra with VI and Glitterstim

-OR-

-Kavil with VI, Unhinged Astromech, and TLT

I can't decide for league tonight.

Let me ask this way; which list is better against swarms and which against aces? I would guess maybe Kavil for aces?

Floppychop
Mar 30, 2012

I'm still not sold on TLT on Kavil. To me it kind of feels like a waste of his pilot talent.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




Floppychop posted:

I'm still not sold on TLT on Kavil. To me it kind of feels like a waste of his pilot talent.

Blaster turret doesn't look very appealing, so maybe Autoblaster and Engine Upgrade to try and make sure I'm in range 1?

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

Floppychop posted:

I'm still not sold on TLT on Kavil. To me it kind of feels like a waste of his pilot talent.

The Y wing is ill suited to expensive aces.

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Admiral Joeslop posted:

Blaster turret doesn't look very appealing, so maybe Autoblaster and Engine Upgrade to try and make sure I'm in range 1?

I've tried Autoblaster/EU/PTL/Unhinged on Kavil a couple of times and I had a very hard time ever being in range 1. The one time it happened I zipped an Interceptor in one shot which was glorious but it's very hard to even line up a shot against someone who knows what's coming.

Floppychop
Mar 30, 2012

Admiral Joeslop posted:

Blaster turret doesn't look very appealing, so maybe Autoblaster and Engine Upgrade to try and make sure I'm in range 1?

Kavil with Blaster Turret and R4 Agromech isn't terrible. Spending the focus gives you a target lock to use to modify the dice.

I think Kavil is going to shine with the upcoming Dorsal Turret.

That being said I think currently dropping Kavil to a Syndicate Thug and spending the extra 7 points elsewhere may be better.

Poopy Palpy
Jun 10, 2000

Im da fwiggin Poopy Palpy XD
I once boosted Carnor Jax to range 1 of an autoblaster Y-wing thinking it was a Blaster Turret because who the hell runs autoblasters. Jax survived; autoblasters are really bad.

Major Isoor
Mar 23, 2011

Icon Of Sin posted:

Another one is with Bossk. Turn 1 hit->crit, then turn that crit->2 hits per his pilot ability.

And then use Greedo to turn one of the hits back into a crit :getin: (bit dangerous, but what's life without risk?)

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

Poopy Palpy posted:

I once boosted Carnor Jax to range 1 of an autoblaster Y-wing thinking it was a Blaster Turret because who the hell runs autoblasters. Jax survived; autoblasters are really bad.

VI Autoblaster Kavil is the only case where autoblasters are not garbage, and even then you're a pretty limited gimmick

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Ze Pollack posted:

VI Autoblaster Kavil is the only case where autoblasters are not garbage, and even then you're a pretty limited gimmick

Autoblaster Ghost with Accuracy Corrector and docked Phantom. Come within range 1, take 4 guaranteed damage.

Unless you are Omega Leader :v:

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

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thespaceinvader posted:

Unless you are Omega Leader :v:

Omega Leader is my favorite new thing for Imperials. I just grin every time I think of the "...I can't do what?!" responses.

"I'll just spend my focus, my evade, and re-roll the blank with Serissu!"
"No you won't. Omega Leader."
"gently caress!"

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




With my 4 Feedback/Hull Upgrade Z-95s, I'm going to take Dace with Wired, Ion Turret and K4. Gimmicks are fun :colbert:

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

ConfusedUs posted:

Omega Leader is my favorite new thing for Imperials. I just grin every time I think of the "...I can't do what?!" responses.

"I'll just spend my focus, my evade, and re-roll the blank with Serissu!"
"No you won't. Omega Leader."
"gently caress!"

I know.

I did however cringe last night playing him against HLC Brobots >.<

Probably the worst matchup for him except HLC Outrider.

Which I of course faced loving twice last weekend at the tournament.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
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thespaceinvader posted:

I know.

I did however cringe last night playing him against HLC Brobots >.<

Probably the worst matchup for him except HLC Outrider.

Which I of course faced loving twice last weekend at the tournament.

I know, but that's okay. Omega Leader is so badass that his only weakness is literally the biggest gun in the game.

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW

ConfusedUs posted:

I know, but that's okay. Omega Leader is so badass that his only weakness is literally the biggest gun in the game.

I know Wes Jansen is good, but I don't know if I'd call him the biggest gun in the game.

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ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

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Strobe posted:

I know Wes Jansen is good, but I don't know if I'd call him the biggest gun in the game.

Drawing Wes's fire is a benefit, bro. Lets bigger guns get their burst damage.

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