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Andrast posted:The sphere grid is pretty much a straight line at this point, there isn't that much he can do wrong there right now. You'd be surprised, people were complaining that he missed stuff in earlier videos. You can also straight up teleport onto other people's lines with certain spheres. I actually made the mistake of doing that on my first playthrough even though it's a bad idea until lategame.
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Andrast posted:The sphere grid is pretty much a straight line at this point, there isn't that much he can do wrong there right now. He forgot to activate some nodes when he reached the one before them in the first parts, so it's definitely helping avoid getting people riled up over stuff.
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Feb 4, 2016 17:47
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Jeff Gerstman literally was confused about the sphere grid because he didn't see the beginning tutorial. People sometimes severely overestimate how easy or simple rpgs are.
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Feb 4, 2016 17:48
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Tae posted:Jeff Gerstman literally was confused about the sphere grid because he didn't see the beginning tutorial. The sphere grid is just something that looks more complicated than it actually is. Anyway, there are still plenty of other mechanics that Matt and Woolie don't really understand/utilize properly for people to complain about if they are so inclined. I'm not really sure why some people except optimal play or deep understanding of the mechanics in a blind LP.
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Feb 4, 2016 17:50
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The sphere grid is just "follow the lines" when you boil it down but that does not by any stretch mean it isn't real stupid
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Feb 4, 2016 17:52
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Matt, here's a mid-late game tip: Go to a tutorial battle option on any panel you see in like an inn or something. Use Yuna, summon your Aeons and let them get hit to charge their overdrives. That's the fastest way to spam close to 9999's with each Aeon and it takes up an enemy's turn to kill off your Aeon. No one comes close to matching Yuna's damage output for basically until the end of the game.
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Tae posted:Matt, here's a mid-late game tip: Go to a tutorial battle option on any panel you see in like an inn or something. Use Yuna, summon your Aeons and let them get hit to charge their overdrives. Yeah, getting the overdrives up for every Aeon before a boss fight and then just unloading all of them at the boss is pretty much the best way to handle most bosses in the game.
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Feb 4, 2016 17:59
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Counterpoint: It's also super lame. I wanna see Seymour Flux in all his stupid glory dammit 
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CJacobs posted:The sphere grid is just "follow the lines" when you boil it down but that does not by any stretch mean it isn't real stupid Remember when RPGs would just increase your stats when you level up. What a piece of poo poo system that is. gently caress off Persona. The Sphere grid is fine and it lets you do bullshit later which is kind of neat like using friend spheres to get a weird move on someone.
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Feb 4, 2016 18:04
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Now instead of giving you 1% higher chance to inflict a status effect when you level up, the game makes you do it yourself! What a revolutionary system!
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Feb 4, 2016 18:06
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Every time I hear mention or discussion of the Sphere Grid, my mind is just immediately reminded of Digital Devil Saga and how both of those games' Mantra Grids are just better in every way. Hell, DDS1 was just a series of small straight lines instead of one long line, and it's still way more compelling.
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Feb 4, 2016 18:10
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FauxGateau posted:Beyo is rad, Corrin is cool. Smash 4 rules. Liam drools. I bought the whole bundle even though I kinda thought mii costumes were dumb, but now I have a suckles and blails preset. I'm hoping my friends get a kick out of them. I had a laugh when someone picked the Hank Hill gunner that I totally forgot I made.
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Feb 4, 2016 18:44
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Geez, Woolie screaming because Titus was the voice of reason during the Macalania Temple scene was great.
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Feb 4, 2016 18:57
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Woolie gonna back down hard when his whole complaint about showing the sphere is completely negated.
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Feb 4, 2016 19:51
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I forget, how is it negated exactly?
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Tae posted:Woolie gonna back down hard when his whole complaint about showing the sphere is completely negated. he still has a point about everyone just standing there like morons though, and that Titus is the only one who brings up "uh we're not the bad guys here" while they're like WHAT HAVE WE DONE and yeah, the Sphere Grid is just pointless faux-customization. To be fair though I do prefer it over the "anyone can do anything" approach which takes all the uniqueness out of everyone super hard. The super-customization method can work too but it needs to be interchangeable or have clear dividing lines. DDS1 probably isn't the best comparison to make, that ability system was grindy as gently caress. It would've worked way better if every ability didn't cost a million billion dollars, but I don't know how you'd balance it if that was the case. Interesting attempt though.
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ConanThe3rd posted:I forget, how is it negated exactly? The guado don't give a gently caress about seymour doing patricide. Racism is a thing among all Spira races. Guados' whole deal is that they were very, very recently integrated into the Yevon society which was what the dead dad was talking about. To them, it's just those pesky humans killing their race yet again.
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Yinlock posted:he still has a point about everyone just standing there like morons though, and that Titus is the only one who brings up "uh we're not the bad guys here" while they're like WHAT HAVE WE DONE I don't know, this is a bit like the President's trying to kill you and you kill him first, then White House security shows up and at the end of the day you killed the loving President with your only proof being a video of his dad saying "my kid? yeah he's evil, you should murder him". Shame Anima's overdrive didn't get shown off, hopefully Matt will do the relevant sidequest later on.
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ConanThe3rd posted:I forget, how is it negated exactly? Tromell destroys the sphere the second Rikku brings it up
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YF-23 posted:Shame Anima's overdrive didn't get shown off, hopefully Matt will do the relevant sidequest later on. He's not. That would require him to enjoy the chambers of the fayth puzzles and fight super bosses in this version since he already missed a few which he's already said he's not going to do.
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I don't think they can even get Anima anymore. At least not without a ton of grinding or abuse of the monster arena. Now it's straight to Bikanel + Bevelle and at this point Dark Valefor might start blocking off Besaid temple, where they didn't bother getting the destruction sphere. And while Dark Valefor is one of the easiest of the super bosses, it still requires an endgame ready party and I doubt they want to bother with any of that poo poo. If they happen to not get the destruction sphere in Macalania it's even worse than that because Dark Shiva is ten times worse than Dark Valefor. Zwiebel fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Feb 4, 2016 |
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Phantasium posted:He's not. That would require him to enjoy the chambers of the fayth puzzles and fight super bosses in this version since he already missed a few which he's already said he's not going to do. The only major optional content I can see them doing is getting Yojimbo since that is fairly simple and doesn't require anything else than going to the right place. Zwiebel posted:I don't think they can even get Anima anymore at this point. Now it's straight to Bikanel + Bevelle and at this point Dark Valefor might start blocking off Besaid temple, where they didn't bother getting the destruction sphere. And while Valefor is one of the easiest of the super bosses, it still requires an endgame ready party and I doubt they want to bother with any of that poo poo. They could always instantly kill it with Yojimbo but that is a moot point since they aren't going to do it. Andrast fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Feb 4, 2016 |
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A couple of the ultimate weapons are super easy to get, but Yuna seriously gets overpowered by the endgame as she can solo random fights with her Aeons.
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Zwiebel posted:If they happen to not get the destruction sphere in Macalania it's even worse than that because Dark Shiva is ten times worse than Dark Valefor. They didn't.
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Hhhmmm the Seymour/Constantine connection is actually pretty solid. Seymour vs Constantine: Child of two different races vs Child of pagan warlord and his Christian wife/concubine Worships mother/Mother is literally saint Bizarro intepretation of religion/Couldn't keep straight whether he was a Christian or not Ruthless climb to the top/Ruthless climb to the top Kills own father/Kills own son WHAT THE gently caress Constantine In conclusion, Seymour is more well adjusted than Constantine the Great.
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I completely ignored the sphere grid until sinspawn gui that being said, all the cool poo poo you can do with the sphere grid takes an incredible amount of grinding and it's not really worth it. Mesothelioma fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Feb 4, 2016 |
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Mesothelioma posted:I completely ignored the sphere grid until sinspawn gui Not really, unless you're fleeing from every fight and doing a low level run then by the time you hit the "endgame" you will have started Yuna and Tidus down Lulu and Auron's paths, respectively, thus breaking the rest of the game over your knee with how strong they become.
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TriffTshngo posted:Not really, unless you're fleeing from every fight and doing a low level run then by the time you hit the "endgame" you will have started Yuna and Tidus down Lulu and Auron's paths, respectively, thus breaking the rest of the game over your knee with how strong they become. Yeah playing the remastered version I got everyone to the end of their line really early on (around Home) and if you just actually use Rikku for what she's initially there for (Steal/Mug and Bribe) you can get some real rear end poo poo going really early. Also the coolest thing you can do with the Sphere grid you can do right at the start and that's Send Yuna down Lulu's path and vice versa. Black mage Yuna is a damage Goddess. ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Feb 5, 2016 |
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Yeah playonig the remastered version I got everyone to the end of their line really early on (around Home) and if you just actually use Rikku for what she's initially there for (Steal/Mug and Bribe) you can get some real rear end poo poo going really early. It also makes her Aeons' overdrives really loving strong since their overdrive damage is based on Yuna's Magic stat. Andrast fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Feb 4, 2016 |
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I'm glad they aren't doing the dark aeons fight's because every video I've seen makes the fights seem overly long and boring.
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I mean if Matt is going to get Yojimbo and wants to show off his sweet moves, he could just Zanmoto both Dark Valefor and Dark Shiva
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Feb 5, 2016 00:25
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The worst part about the FFX LP are mostly battles, why would you want more of that
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I shoulda just been a Let's Watch.
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"I'm just going to go through the main story." "Okay, but what about this annoying side quest?" "I'm just going to go through the main story." "But what about this balls hard optional boss?" "I'm just going to go through the main story." "Okay but what about these optional super weapons?" *sigh*
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But is he just going to go through the main story???
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CJacobs posted:But is he just going to go through the main story??? I don't think so.
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CJacobs posted:But is he just going to go through the main story??? I'm pretty sure it's a 102% complete playthrough.
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You're telling me there's an upside-down castle you gotta fight the REAL Sin in!?
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TheRealestMatt posted:I shoulda just been a Let's Watch. Nah it's good. I'm just worried you guys are gonna hit a wall but you'll probably be fine.
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pulp rag posted:You're telling me there's an upside-down castle you gotta fight the REAL Sin in!? You're not far off....
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