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Intel&Sebastian posted:Yep, and you've had it explained to you that no one cares that he can be arrested when he's not. Good to know you keep count though, that's nice. Idk dude i think the guy who has to walk past all the militants shooting at him to arrest their leader might care make fun of these dudes all you want but the stupids coming from in the thread
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Can someone repost that excerpt from Lavoy's novel about how his Mary Sue cowboy character outdrew all those agents trying to arrest him?
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Feb 4, 2016 22:24
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Bran Loghair posted:Can someone repost that excerpt from Lavoy's novel about how his Mary Sue cowboy character outdrew all those agents trying to arrest him? The Crotch posted:
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Feb 4, 2016 22:42
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Er that happens at 99% on practically the next to last page? Kind of an abrupt end to his story arc. I guess there's not much point in going much further because most sovcit readers probaby just stop reading immediately and masturbate to the fantasy of shooting federal agents in the face.
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Feb 4, 2016 22:51
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Feb 4, 2016 22:52
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Hi just me here interfering with a federal investigation and posting about it on Facebook.
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Feb 4, 2016 22:53
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... they want to choose their own snacks
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Feb 4, 2016 22:55
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The FBI surely won't notice this, it will remain secured. There's no way they'll intercept these packages.
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Feb 4, 2016 22:55
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The Sundowner Hotel in Hines, Oregon sounds exactly like the place that a innocent highschool girl, loved by everyone in her small town, is found evicerated in two seperate hotel rooms, and her death leads a quirky FBI agent to uncover the dark secret truths of this small town.
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Two shares, both of which are making fun of the post. "Fuckers need more gummy dicks."
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Feb 4, 2016 22:56
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Knight posted:... Spalmed? I'm guessing he was thinking of "fanning" the revolver and tried to make up a word. (fanning is when you fire the revolver quickly by holding the trigger and flipping the hammer back with the palm of your hand, a la old west style)
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Feb 4, 2016 22:57
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Al! posted:Hi just me here interfering with a federal investigation and posting about it on Facebook. It's okay though she scrubbed her personal info before making her page public  Didn't go back and delete the links to her real estate listings though https://www.facebook.com/roxanna.hall.92/posts/936196073154298 These people.
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Feb 4, 2016 22:57
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Captain Monkey posted:The FBI surely won't notice this, it will remain secured. There's no way they'll intercept these packages.  OAquinas posted:I'm guessing he was thinking of "fanning" the revolver and tried to make up a word. (fanning is when you fire the revolver quickly by holding the trigger and flipping the hammer back with the palm of your hand, a la old west style)
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Feb 4, 2016 23:00
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A lot of the journalists covering this story were tweeting about how this is their favorite hotel in Burns and that the young woman who works the desk is really nice. It sucks that now she's going to spend probably the next 2 weeks taking delivery of boxes of elephant poo poo and dildos for these fuckers. Yet one more way these dumbfucks are screwing over the locals.
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Feb 4, 2016 23:03
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Knight posted:That's why the post was "varified"  Ammosexuality is a perfectly legitimate orientation and The Constitution doesn't expressly forbid a man from marrying his guns.
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Feb 4, 2016 23:04
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Fionnoula posted:A lot of the journalists covering this story were tweeting about how this is their favorite hotel in Burns and that the young woman who works the desk is really nice. It sucks that now she's going to spend probably the next 2 weeks taking delivery of boxes of elephant poo poo and dildos for these fuckers. Yet one more way these dumbfucks are screwing over the locals.
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Feb 4, 2016 23:04
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Knight posted:That's why the post was "varified" ...that actually makes more sense now that I actually read that pile of poo poo. Also: goddammit, why did I read that pile of poo poo?
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Feb 4, 2016 23:05
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I like how they dont know how credit/debit cards work.
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Feb 4, 2016 23:06
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As a Millennial I posted:It's okay though she scrubbed her personal info before making her page public As we all know, the FBI can't google you without Probably Cause.
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Feb 4, 2016 23:08
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Ratoslov posted:The Sundowner Hotel in Hines, Oregon sounds exactly like the place that a innocent highschool girl, loved by everyone in her small town, is found evicerated in two seperate hotel rooms, and her death leads a quirky FBI agent to uncover the dark secret truths of this small town. David Lynch is taking the Twin Peaks remake in a reality TV direction
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Feb 4, 2016 23:15
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OAquinas posted:I'm guessing he was thinking of "fanning" the revolver and tried to make up a word. (fanning is when you fire the revolver quickly by holding the trigger and flipping the hammer back with the palm of your hand, a la old west style) http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spalm
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:Idk dude i think the guy who has to walk past all the militants shooting at him to arrest their leader might care I agree. It was very stupid of you to think I was asking for someone to walk into his livingroom and slap cuffs on today.
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Feb 4, 2016 23:24
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The prepaid phones, sim cards, and thumb drives are almost certainly meant to make their communications more difficult to track. Putting that poo poo in public is a bad idea, because buying/shipping any signifigant quantity of those items is enough to get you flagged all by itself.
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Feb 4, 2016 23:32
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Intel&Sebastian posted:I agree. It was very stupid of you to think I was asking for someone to walk into his livingroom and slap cuffs on today. Im not the idiot asking for them to storm clivens fortress after begging for them to storm the refuge and after watching them neuter the leadership with 1 casualty who wanted to go out shooting anyway.
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Feb 4, 2016 23:37
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Intel&Sebastian posted:I agree. It was very stupid of you to think I was asking for someone to walk into his livingroom and slap cuffs on today. Hmmm, why would he think that. Intel&Sebastian posted:Ok, but at what point does actual, real life poo poo like his ranch standoff and Malheur rise to the same level of concern as hypothetical bloodshed? Intel&Sebastian posted:I also didn't see an answer: how many malheurs and ranch stand offs does one man get until we do anything? You ask a lot of totally unanswerable questions, and get mad salty when nobody can, in fact, answer them.
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Prester Jane posted:The prepaid phones, sim cards, and thumb drives are almost certainly meant to make their communications more difficult to track. Putting that poo poo in public is a bad idea, because buying/shipping any signifigant quantity of those items is enough to get you flagged all by itself. Reading the various ways that SovCits screw themselves over in the process of executing their oh-so-clever tricks is almost endearing. Sure, they're delusional, completely radicalized loons and very often bigoted offenders who are a danger to themselves and others, but this kind of thing makes them look almost like a puppy that got its head stuck in a shoe: adorably stupid. Then you remember who you're talking about and the feeling goes away.
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What's the over/under on how many thumb drives received are filled with FBI/NSA spyware?
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 e: one of the few good things to ever come out of a local newspaper comment section
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Well that's an odd take seeing as the thing that most upsets me is people answering them and rolling their eyes like it was a basic addition problem. Or misrepresenting what I'm saying, there's nothing in your quotes that says roll on Cliven now. It's me asking how long that goes on until you do something, and it was an honest question. Main Painframe is a fuckin pain in the rear end in my opinion and he managed to answer it for himself without making it a big crybaby helldump fight. He said it never does. I disagree but that's alright, I get what he means and why. I think a lot of people here are discounting the poo poo that Burns and Oregon had to deal with for 3 weeks because of a confirmation bias over the arrests, which were pulled off wonderfully. The problem is that doesn't erase or excuse the 3 weeks. The waiting contributed to the successful arrest. It also contributed to the chaos in Burns, and who knows what else nationally. It also established a template for anyone willing to put up with being jailed to get national attention for at least 3 weeks in exchange for vaguely threatening defensive gun violence. Its a question of balance. In my opinion there's far too much weight on the "better not cause another waco" end. That's my opinion and it's a bunch of poo poo! Sorry! Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Feb 5, 2016 |
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:Im not the idiot asking for them to storm clivens fortress after begging for them to storm the refuge and after watching them neuter the leadership with 1 casualty who wanted to go out shooting anyway. Find where I begged them to storm the refuge and we can continue.
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I'll agree that they should've been clapped up earlier while they were out and about, however this may have been the first opportunity for them to grab the whole bushel at once.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:
Pretty much everyone who knows about the subject, as well as recent history, disagree with you. The FBI is playing the long game, which it is world famous for. The FBI has proven that it knows what it is doing and has a plan. I'm sorry that you cannot abide the idea of the bad men getting punished later instead of right away, and I'm sorry that you think that not ending this asap through aggressive means will cause more damage than playing the long game will, but you are objectively wrong. Prester Jane fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Feb 5, 2016 |
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Thump! posted:I'll agree that they should've been clapped up earlier while they were out and about, however this may have been the first opportunity for them to grab the whole bushel at once. That's what I'm saying. Most of the fbi tactics are a big black box of unknown, by design and they aren't going to publicize if and when parts went wrong, or if they intended or expected all the problems outside of the refuge. I don't presume to know better than them (and said as much minutes before the arrests circa page 170 or so), BUUUUUUTTTTTTTTT I also cannot fathom what horrorshow hypothetical situation justifies those three weeks and all the rest we'll be dealing with. If its fair for someone to deploy confirmation bias over the arrests and how perfectly they say the FBI handled everything, despite not actually knowing, then other people should be able to look into that same inkblot and say "nahhh, that's not a mastermind psyop followed by a rainbow six level on cheat codes arrest. It was a very dangerous stare off followed by an oppurtunity taken" (gross oversimplification of what I mean). Its not even like I'm spouting some fringe nonsense the governor of the state came out and said it was taking too long. I don't know about her but when I say "it took too long" I'm not discounting any of the great work the fbi did in getting charges and pulling off the arrests. They did both wonderfully. My problem is that I don't think that's a good trade off for the downside, and if this is standard procedure for dealing with PEACEFUL ONLY DEFENSIVE GUNS NEENER NEENER assholes then it needs to be re examined. How? Couldnt tell you. Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Feb 5, 2016 |
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Feb 5, 2016 00:56
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Prester Jane posted:but you are objectively wrong. I disagree
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Recent history proving you wrong is mere confirmation bias? Please elaborate on how the FBI could have ended the standoff sooner and with as little bloodshed as has actually happened. Be specific please. Outline the steps thy should have taken to remove the insurgents from the refuge and how it would have resulted in less violence.
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Prester Jane posted:Recent history proving you wrong is mere confirmation bias? Roll in with an MRAP with a firehose that sprays that expanding riot control foam stuff and just lock everybody in a Styrofoam prison
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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/02/federal_judge_orders_release_o.html#incart_big-photo Hellboy rides again.
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Prester Jane posted:The FBI is playing the long game, which it is world famous for. What is your basis for this opinion? You have a very high estimation of an organization that's spent much of the last decade and a half catfishing mentally unbalanced American Muslim teens into fake terror plots.
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Prester Jane posted:Recent history proving you wrong is mere confirmation bias? Yes it is. You're taking the result, good arrests, and retroactively applying it's success to everything that led up to it, declaring the entirety of the unknown aspects of the FBI operation and declaring it perfect, and that it all offsets any downside I can imagine. That's the definition of it. To say nothing of how convenient it is that it all folded into your narrativists theories, which I read and considered dufully, and still will, but don't accept prima facie. I don't see the arrests as such, I see them as good arrests that all but ended a situation that was getting more dangerous and disruptive by the day. I don't proclaim to know the inner workings and tactics nitty gritty of the fbi. You do. My opinions based on what I know and saw. As for what I would have done? I would have moved on Cliven the first time he threatened gun violence on BLM officials and leveraged all possible pain (which doesn't have to include getting people shot to arrest him) to make it clear you can't threaten federal agents with death in America and then not even see charges as you escalate the situation for 20 years. His sons would have seen that the feds aren't the sovcit fantasy they love, their dad didn't discover the magic words, and they think twice before invading malheur. Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Feb 5, 2016 |
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