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Unsinkabear
Jun 8, 2013

Ensign, raise the beariscope.





Sarsapariller posted:

Good god, how do you even get it that high? Surely not by killing ships, you'd have to kill thousands.

This. In the last week I've come in and out of Robigo on Open multiple times, totally unchallenged. Not a player in sight. So what the hell did you do?!

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Literally Kermit
Mar 4, 2012
t
Advanced Diamond Frog technique: take on 250 tons of palladium, abandon mission and sell back to the station, repeat.

Legit missions carry fines and they can run into the millions based on the value and amount of cargo. In universe, you're committing outright fraud and skipping town leaving the faction holding the bag (and it actually weakens them influence wise)

A week later your millions in fines become millions in bounties!

And that is why this game is a Han Solo simulator.

Adult Sword Owner
Jun 19, 2011

u deserve diploma for sublime comedy expertise

Literally Kermit posted:

Advanced Diamond Frog technique: take on 250 tons of palladium, abandon mission and sell back to the station, repeat.

Legit missions carry fines and they can run into the millions based on the value and amount of cargo. In universe, you're committing outright fraud and skipping town leaving the faction holding the bag (and it actually weakens them influence wise)

A week later your millions in fines become millions in bounties!

And that is why this game is a Han Solo simulator.

I feel like I really need to get on this before the inevitable patch

And then offer myself up to Frogs


This is probably the reason they will never allow real trading, too easy to rack up millions in non-KOS crimes and then get popped by a friend.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
Bounty hunting using voice attack with Tom Baker as my ship computer is magical :allears:

Unsinkabear
Jun 8, 2013

Ensign, raise the beariscope.





DancingShade posted:

Bounty hunting using voice attack with Tom Baker as my ship computer is magical :allears:

I did not know this was an option. :stare:

How much do you earn by defrauding Robigo of 260 tons of palladium?

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Your Loyal Vizier posted:

I did not know this was an option. :stare:

How much do you earn by defrauding Robigo of 260 tons of palladium?

http://hcsvoicepacks.com/collections/voice-packs

You'll want the "Midnight" pack for Tom Baker. Incidentally the "Leo + Ship's Cat" pack is Norman Lovett from Red Dwarf :v:

Also you'll want a Voiceattack key if you haven't already got one:

http://www.voiceattack.com/

Oh yeah, once you install everything follow these instructions to make sure your keys are setup correctly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms3bL1wBBFg

DancingShade fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Feb 4, 2016

Dongattack
Dec 20, 2006

by Cyrano4747

Bedshaped posted:

I think this is the first worthy screenshot I've taken:



drat, insanely beautiful.

RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!
Dev update!

quote:

"Hi everyone,

For this week’s dev update I will talk about some of the planned changes for missions coming with 2.1 The Engineers release. There are a lot of details to cover so I’ll go through the high level goals and the details for the first of the goals and cover the remaining details over the coming weeks. I’ll also provide more details on the other features over that time as well.

Missions are a key component of the game and we reviewed how we can make them more meaningful for gameplay, in particular how the player interacts with them and their effects on the galactic simulation. With our review we identified five key goals that we’re tackling for 2.1 The Engineers:

- Personalisation

- Progression

- Variety

- Consequences

- Rewards

Personalisation is about reflecting the player’s presence in the world and providing persistence for their activities. We’ve already mention that mission givers will be getting faces for 2.1 The Engineers update and this forms a part of the core of this personalisation. The mission contacts will become the faces of the minor factions you deal with for mission and this will be accompanied by a new layout for the mission board to group things more effectively for dealing with the minor faction.

The new mission presentation puts these NPC characters to the forefront of missions. They are unique and have their own faces, names and status within their organisations. The type of organisation will be reflected in the tone of their communications. Their dealings with you are also influenced by your reputation with the minor faction, but also the relative differences in status between you and the character. So if you’re Elite ranked and they’re a minor flunky then they will show you the proper deference – assuming their governing organisation allows it!

Repeated dealings with a minor faction will see your own status within the minor faction improve or fall – depending on your activities. At certain points you will deal with more important members of the organisation or even sterner types if your reputation is lacking. This will also be reinforced by a new greetings message when docking to reflect your status with the station.

The mission contacts will also remember if they’ve dealt with you before. As well as providing consistency the contacts are the conduit for gaining missions and seeing the effects they have. So they will inform you if the minor faction has entered a particular state, or a state is incoming. There will also be much smarter selection of missions that tie in with the current state of affairs, there will be more details on this as part of the progression and variety goals.

As well as what is happening in local space the contacts will let you know what impact your efforts are having and so helping to communicate the galactic simulation states and trends more effectively.

As is customary with our major updates there is a swathe of fixes, tweaks and other changes. For those of you who won naming of planets and a station these will be in the 2.1 The Engineers update. We have a revised format for the options screen coming with collapsible sections for easier navigation. More huge weapons are coming and as well as the asteroid graphical fidelity improvements the star light has been fixed so that it retains its colour over distance.

I will be back next week with more details of what we have coming.

So, pretty much what most people were hoping for re: missions (i.e. making missions tie into the BGS in a plausible way and the game might actually give you some feedback about poo poo that is happening), nice to see it stated outright, and the first 100% definite confirmation that there will be more huge weapons added.

timn
Mar 16, 2010
I hope their future approach to huge weapons has something substantial to help distinguish the style of combat a bit for ships that mount them. Getting sucked back into an eternity of gimballed lasers because that's the utilitarian path of least resistance would be incredibly meh.

Unsinkabear
Jun 8, 2013

Ensign, raise the beariscope.





Edit: got sniped by patch chat. That all looks fantastic!

I'm thinking about starting Power Play w/ ALD this weekend, either in a vulture or a federal assault ship, depending on how much dough I stack up before getting bored of space trucking and deciding to do murder.

Anyone have experience with either of those ships in PP? I have no clue how to fit for pve and potential pvp at the same time

Unsinkabear fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Feb 5, 2016

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

timn posted:

I hope their future approach to huge weapons has something substantial to help distinguish the style of combat a bit for ships that mount them. Getting sucked back into an eternity of gimballed lasers because that's the utilitarian path of least resistance would be incredibly meh.

it'll be pulse lasers

fixed only

Mercurius
May 4, 2004

Amp it up.

timn posted:

I hope their future approach to huge weapons has something substantial to help distinguish the style of combat a bit for ships that mount them. Getting sucked back into an eternity of gimballed lasers because that's the utilitarian path of least resistance would be incredibly meh.
I sincerely hope that they take this opportunity to re-introduce the idea of the weapon variants they had leading up to launch (some of which have made their way into CQC).

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Dabir posted:

it'll be pulse lasers

fixed only

I would be okay with this.

Mercurius posted:

I sincerely hope that they take this opportunity to re-introduce the idea of the weapon variants they had leading up to launch (some of which have made their way into CQC).

Also this -- RIP high impact multicannons

timn
Mar 16, 2010

Mercurius posted:

I sincerely hope that they take this opportunity to re-introduce the idea of the weapon variants they had leading up to launch (some of which have made their way into CQC).

I think I mentioned this before but the scatter multicannon loving owns because BRRRRT.

JagGator
Oct 31, 2012

RabidWeasel posted:

So, pretty much what most people were hoping for re: missions

Hmmm... I'm a little more pessimistic. It sounds like they are giving us a bunch of pretty text/pictures around what may be basically the same mission system. I don't think anyone was asking for "I really think this station should treat me with the respect I deserve!" but the devs seem like that is the most important thing ever. Well, maybe the grognards in the brown sea were asking for it, but that really is a counterargument for if it should be done.

I'd rather hear that they are fixing the broken missions, giving us better control over what missions we can take, adding more interesting mission types, increasing the (non-exploit) rewards, etc.

xiansi
Jan 26, 2012

im judjing all goons cause they have bad leader, so a noral member is associated whith thoose crasy one

Personaly i would quit the goons if i was in cause of thoose crasy ppl
Clapping Larry

JagGator posted:

Hmmm... I'm a little more pessimistic. It sounds like they are giving us a bunch of pretty misspelled text/pictures around what may be basically the same mission system. I don't think anyone was asking for "I really think this station should treat me with the respect I deserve!" but the devs seem like that is the most important thing ever.

We'll be getting that I reckon.

Maybe better money rewards from missions (with a higher rank), 'cause that's a joke right now.

JagGator posted:

...the grognards in the brown sea were asking for it...

Even worse. Someone one Reddit made a mockup of the mission screen with the same sort of faces from the proposed 'character creator', and it was popular, so...

El Grillo
Jan 3, 2008
Fun Shoe
It looked to me like he just focused on the first item on the list of mission updates for this newsletter and will provide info on the rest on a week-by-week basis? That's my hope anyway. There was nothing about more variety in there for example.

lordofthefishes
Mar 30, 2008

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So I have to ask, is the cobra mk IV worth picking up Horizons for prior to tomorrow?

Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask

lordofthefishes fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Feb 5, 2016

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

The MK IV?

I wouldn't get Horizons specifically for it, no.

They've said it'll remain exclusive forever though, so the real question is will your OCD kick in if you don't get it?

^^^ooh, you edited!^^^

xiansi
Jan 26, 2012

im judjing all goons cause they have bad leader, so a noral member is associated whith thoose crasy one

Personaly i would quit the goons if i was in cause of thoose crasy ppl
Clapping Larry

lordofthefishes posted:

So I have to ask, is the cobra worth picking up Horizons for prior to tomorrow?

Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask

It's a better place to ask than the Star Citizen thread. Where I just replied...but posts there are lost like tears in the rain.

And no, it's not worth it, your basic Cobra Mk III is much better.

Get Horizons if you're really into landing on planets, but there's no real gameplay/power advantage to it just yet.

That may change with the 2.1 crafting stuff, but that can wait, and it'll only get cheaper.

Annath
Jan 11, 2009

Batatouille is a great and funny play on words for a video game creature and I love silly words like these
Clever Betty

DancingShade posted:

http://hcsvoicepacks.com/collections/voice-packs

You'll want the "Midnight" pack for Tom Baker. Incidentally the "Leo + Ship's Cat" pack is Norman Lovett from Red Dwarf :v:

Also you'll want a Voiceattack key if you haven't already got one:

http://www.voiceattack.com/

Oh yeah, once you install everything follow these instructions to make sure your keys are setup correctly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms3bL1wBBFg

Oh my god Leonard Nimoy is my ships computer :staredog:

Groggy nard
Aug 6, 2013

How does into botes?

lordofthefishes posted:

is the cobra mk IV worth picking up

No.

Unsinkabear
Jun 8, 2013

Ensign, raise the beariscope.





Annath posted:

Oh my god Leonard Nimoy is my ships computer :staredog:

WHAT

LCL-Dead
Apr 22, 2014

Grimey Drawer

Your Loyal Vizier posted:

I did not know this was an option. :stare:

How much do you earn by defrauding Robigo of 260 tons of palladium?

It's not.

You can't.

Come to the froggy side. We will teach you.

To whoever had the thought about claiming that kind of bounty, Frontier limits collection on player bounties to 1 million per faction.

Target Practice
Aug 20, 2004

Shit.

Annath posted:

Oh my god Leonard Nimoy is my ships computer :staredog:

WHAAAAAAAA

lordofthefishes
Mar 30, 2008

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tooterfish posted:


They've said it'll remain exclusive forever though, so the real question is will your OCD kick in if you don't get it?


To which I ask, is indulging my admitted OCD worth $8.00 CAD?

Figured I was better off waiting for a sale but better to ask than not, thanks all.

Annath
Jan 11, 2009

Batatouille is a great and funny play on words for a video game creature and I love silly words like these
Clever Betty




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR7JtILMOdY

AndroidHub
Feb 28, 2007

I've seen some stuff that would really make you say "like what?"
I'm officially pumped for 2.1, E:D has been missing good gamefeel for a long time, giving npcs faces and generally expanding the way missions work is just the ticket, filling out the weapons variety a bit is also one of those things that's been missing since before I started playing the game. It strikes me that they probably wanted a lot of these features (like more huge weapons to go with the new ships) in the initial release of horizons, but ran out of time to get it as a tandem release with 1.5 before the year was out.

I mostly think this is the case because Horizons really felt lackluster in terms of non-essential features and extras right at release, but the promised post-release content kept me interested.

IAmTheRad
Dec 11, 2009

Goddammit this Cello is way out of tune!

lordofthefishes posted:

To which I ask, is indulging my admitted OCD worth $8.00 CAD?

Figured I was better off waiting for a sale but better to ask than not, thanks all.

The Cobra Mk. 4 has a VERY niche role. It's a great starting miner ship.

But that's about all it's good for. I kept my Cobra Mk. 4 for under a week. It's not worth it.

1500
Nov 3, 2015

Give me all your crackers
Big changes on how they are selling Horizons and future content.

quote:

Greetings Commanders,

We wanted to get in touch to let you know about a few changes that we will be making tomorrow and bring you into the conversation with a little bit of early information.

Since the launch of Elite Dangerous Horizons we have had an incredible response from Commanders in the game. The number of amazing videos, screenshots, player events, CG’s and missions have truly taken our breath away. We are so delighted with the way that the community have taken to the game and we’re super excited for the future releases coming to Horizons throughout the season.

The Elite Dangerous community is truly the most incredible group of players we could possibly ask for. We value the thoughts and feedback from our community and we’re always looking at how we can take that feedback on board. This is why we wanted to give you these details ahead of time and be as upfront and clear of the details as possible. We are all a part of the long term development of the game and we’re delighted to be on this voyage together.

Since its launch we have heard some players say they feel confused by Elite Dangerous Horizons and how the purchasing and upgrading of the game works. Thanks to this feedback we are going to changing the way that it appears in the store and on steam.

To reduce confusion, Horizons will be added as a season pass DLC for Elite Dangerous, rather than an individual product. It’s a relatively small change but it means that on steam and on our store there will now be three options

Elite Dangerous
Elite Dangerous: Horizons Season Pass
Elite Dangerous: Deluxe Edition

The deluxe bundle will include the base game, Horizons season pass DLC and some digital goods.

This will be beneficial in a few ways. First of all it will unite the steam community. This means that we will only have 1 community hub. This is something players have asked for and we’re happy to listen. It also means that the products are clearer for people to understand, reducing confusion, which can only be a good thing!

However, this does mean that Steam Horizons players will have the Horizons portion of their steam game time counter wiped as it moves back to 1 hub (the in-game counter will still work). Nothing will be effected in game but we wanted players to understand the changes and impact fully.

In addition to these there are a couple of other changes we will be making at the same time. The base price of the Horizons season pass DLC will be £25 (or equivalent in other currencies) and will not include access to Elite Dangerous, this must be purchased separately. It will still include the entire season of content coming in Horizons. This means that the current loyalty discount to Elite Dangerous: Horizons will no longer exist as all existing players will be able to upgrade directly to the Horizons season pass.

Finally, by way of a special thank you to everyone who has already bought Horizons before these changes are made, we are giving you an unreleased Asp Explorer gold paint job. And don’t forget, you still have access to the Cobra Mk IV, and this will apply to all players that buy before the changes go live tomorrow – new players that get the new deal will not get it.

Here’s a look at the wonderful golden Asp which will be coming to all existing Horizons players, and those that buy before tomorrow.

https://forums-cdn.frontier.co.uk/images/misc/gold-asp.png

Once again, I just wanted to take this opportunity to thank you all for your incredible continued support and for joining us on this incredible journey. We’d love to get your thoughts and feedback as always so please do let us know below and we will be on hand to answer any questions you might have.

Thanks

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

Honestly no idea why they didn't just do it like that in the first place.

Of course, the next farce is going to be how they fit Season 3 into this model.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

IAmTheRad posted:

The Cobra Mk. 4 has a VERY niche role. It's a great starting miner ship.

But that's about all it's good for. I kept my Cobra Mk. 4 for under a week. It's not worth it.

Best as I can tell is that the Cobra Mk. 4 (if not mining) is also a cheap entry level freighter since you can easily pack on over 50 cargo units without breaking a sweat.

It is absolutely NOT a combat ship, despite the highly misleading and very well placed 5 hardpoints.

Man, if it had a better power distributor or better turning or better speed (just any one of those) it would be really decent :saddowns:

DancingShade fucked around with this message at 08:12 on Feb 5, 2016

1500
Nov 3, 2015

Give me all your crackers

tooterfish posted:

Honestly no idea why they didn't just do it like that in the first place.

Of course, the next farce is going to be how they fit Season 3 into this model.

I would say that season 3 will come with season 2, or ED and Horizons will merge to become the new base game and season 3 will be a season pass.

Target Practice
Aug 20, 2004

Shit.
So if I haven't bought Horizons yet, should I just wait unless I got a boner for landing on planets?

IAmTheRad
Dec 11, 2009

Goddammit this Cello is way out of tune!
The problem was it was probably confusing to some people. The way it appeared was that you needed to buy the base game and then buy Horizons. I mean you got a discount if you did so.
What the change appears to be is that there won't be two things called Elite: Dangerous on the Steam store. Just one item you need to buy. Sure, the season pass for Horizons gives you access to all the Horizons content too, and the price change makes sure that you get Horizons at a discounted price over what it costs now. The discounted price right now with the loyalty discount is approximately £29.99.

It looks like the new system will have Season 3 being standalone. You won't need Horizons for Season 3.

The extra £5 is for the Gold Asp Paint.

RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!

IAmTheRad posted:

The extra £5 is for the Gold Asp Paint.

And the Black Friday paint set if you preordered! I haven't touched any Horizons content yet - I'm assuming that surface stuff is going to be tied in with Engineers at least in some respect so I'm waiting until 2.1 before getting involved with it - and I'm fairly OK with my purchase right now because I basically ended up paying an extra £5 for a ton of cosmetics.

Of course all the 2.1 stuff could be total crap but I'm at least a tiny bit optimistic this time :frogbon:

Sad King Billy
Jan 27, 2006

Thats three of ours innit...to one of yours. You know mate I really think we ought to even up the average!
Anyone else stuck in an email verification loop?

My launcher seems to think I'm running from a new computer and keeps sending me back to the same page.

It fixed itself

Pogue Ma Hoon
Oct 17, 2013

I like a nice pair of slacks.

DancingShade posted:

http://hcsvoicepacks.com/collections/voice-packs

You'll want the "Midnight" pack for Tom Baker. Incidentally the "Leo + Ship's Cat" pack is Norman Lovett from Red Dwarf :v:

Also you'll want a Voiceattack key if you haven't already got one:

http://www.voiceattack.com/

Oh yeah, once you install everything follow these instructions to make sure your keys are setup correctly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms3bL1wBBFg

Awesome, I'll be using this for sure.

bsamu
Mar 11, 2006

I wonder how that steam change will effect those people who bought E:D base just for the cheap horizons and then did a refund on steam. Maybe they'll get horizons removed and then somehow have to explain to Frontier why they don't also have the base game in their steam library? oops, haha.

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Davoren
Aug 14, 2003

The devil you say!

bsamu posted:

I wonder how that steam change will effect those people who bought E:D base just for the cheap horizons and then did a refund on steam. Maybe they'll get horizons removed and then somehow have to explain to Frontier why they don't also have the base game in their steam library? oops, haha.

Well before now Horizons always included the base game, indeed it would be possible to own Elite just by having purchased Horizons, no refund shenanigans required.

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