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Who will win the debate?
Former Hedge Fund Manager and Corporate Raider, Bernard Sanders
Inexperienced Hippie and Lifelong Pacifist, Hillary Rodham
The Ghost of Martin O'Malley
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My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Bad Caller posted:

He had a super majority. Single payer could have passed.

You have no idea how Congress works, do you?

The Senate is your enemy, House Republicans are merely the opposition.

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mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

Bad Caller posted:

He had a super majority. Single payer could have passed.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jennifer-m-granholm/debunking-the-myth-obamas_b_1929869.html

was the first google result for "obama supermajority obamacare", hth

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

so glad MOM finally dropped out so Bernie can wreck the hillster uninterrupted

Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

Yoshifan823 posted:

This definitely has nothing to do with obstinate Republicans, no sir.

it has quite a bit to do with obstinate democrats too

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

This is the ONLY debate in the FINAL week before THE primary??

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

Yudo posted:

The flint thing is legit sickening

when life gives you flint, make deflintum

mannerup
Jan 11, 2004

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legislative power rankings now gah

Yudo
May 15, 2003

Fullhouse posted:

so glad MOM finally dropped out so Bernie can wreck the hillster uninterrupted

i wish there was a larger field this year.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

blue squares posted:

This is the ONLY debate in the FINAL week before THE primary??

be happy that we even have this

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:

it has quite a bit to do with obstinate democrats too

Obstinate assholes, then

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



Obama had the bully pulpit, people wanted single payer. If blue dog democrats didn't follow the line, it would have looked bad on them.

Instead we have this weird system that can easily be repealed or changed and most people don't even want.

Yay.

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

Logikv9 posted:

be happy that we even have this

I was trying to make fun of Chuck Todd but it was pretty lame

Yudo
May 15, 2003

DONT SAY GUNS

Shakenbaker
Nov 14, 2005



Grimey Drawer
Start them good things from happening!

memy
Oct 15, 2011

by exmarx

mannerup posted:

legislative power rankings now gah

Chuck Todd sure is something awful

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Yudo posted:

i wish there was a larger field this year.

Don't. A small field is a good thing. Lets Hillary and Bernie avoid shitfests like the Republicans have had.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
"Political capitol is a dumb idea, Chuck"


Bad Caller posted:

Obama had the bully pulpit, people wanted single payer. If blue dog democrats didn't follow the line, it would have looked bad on them.

Instead we have this weird system that can easily be repealed or changed and most people don't even want.

Yay.

Are you 12? Like, seriously were you not around for the ACA fight?

Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

I don't just want to stop bad things from happening. I want to start good things from happening.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
"I want to start good things from happening"

what in the world

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

How do people not listen to this Clinton answer and deny that she is a kickass progressive who should be pres?

Arkane
Dec 19, 2006

by R. Guyovich
half a million new solar panels is like virtually nothing

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

Yudo posted:

i wish there was a larger field this year.

I don't because bernie looks better and better the more time he gets to talk
also the republican debates are 8 to 13 idiots trying to out-jingo each other and the democrat equivalent of that would probably be disgusting to watch

Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

blue squares posted:

This is the ONLY debate in the FINAL week before THE primary??

republicans got one on saturday

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
i hope rachael maddow is beating chuck todd in the polls

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

Tatum Girlparts posted:

"Political capitol is a dumb idea, Chuck"

Correct

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
small businesses

jobs

small businesses

jobs

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

blue squares posted:

This is the ONLY debate in the FINAL week before THE primary??

Before Hillary felt the Bern and asked for more debates there were only two more debates in the entire primary. One on public TV and the other hosted by Spanish language TV

AbbadonOfHell
Jul 16, 2004
You know I would try to think of something funny to put here but ill just pass on that and threaten people with a + 2 board with a nail in it.

blue squares posted:

This is the ONLY debate in the FINAL week before THE primary??

Thank Debbie Wasserman Schultz

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



Tatum Girlparts posted:

"Political capitol is a dumb idea, Chuck"


Are you 12? Like, seriously were you not around for the ACA fight?

Nope I was. I even voted for Obama in 08. Dropping single payer before you even get to the bargaining table is just giving free ground to republicans for negotiation.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Logikv9 posted:

i hope rachael maddow is beating chuck todd in the polls

I hope she starts beating him the moment they get backstage.

Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004

I want to call her hair the "Hillmet," but I can't decide if it's a helmet or mullet.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Dead Cosmonaut posted:

small businesses

jobs

small businesses

jobs

campaign finance reform

Springfield Fatts
May 24, 2010
Pillbug
Her answer is all of them and then some?

7of7
Jul 1, 2008

blue squares posted:

How do people not listen to this Clinton answer and deny that she is a kickass progressive who should be pres?

She's ok on domestic policy, at least her stated policy is ok, but she's bad on foreign policy.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
"small businesses"

just say "job creators" Hillary - you know you want to

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

Bad Caller posted:

Obama had the bully pulpit, people wanted single payer. If blue dog democrats didn't follow the line, it would have looked bad on them.

Instead we have this weird system that can easily be repealed or changed and most people don't even want.

Yay.

oh drat, now I understand politics

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
I agree with Bernie on basically every domestic issue... except campaign finance reform.

mannerup
Jan 11, 2004

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EugeneJ posted:

"small businesses"

just say "job creators" Hillary - you know you want to

employment wizards

JesusSinfulHands
Oct 24, 2007
Sartre and Russell are my heroes
Despite having a supermajority the Democrats couldn't even get a public option in Obamacare basically because Joe Lieberman is a jerk. Democrats are not going to get 60 senators again for quite some time, so how is single-payer going to happen anytime soon?

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Majorian
Jul 1, 2009
BOOM on Citizen's United.

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