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Who will win the debate?
Former Hedge Fund Manager and Corporate Raider, Bernard Sanders
Inexperienced Hippie and Lifelong Pacifist, Hillary Rodham
The Ghost of Martin O'Malley
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Jacobin
Feb 1, 2013

by exmarx

Joementum posted:

Good on Hillary to list off all the stuff that wasn't mentioned tonight because Chuck and Rachel wanted to get to the bottom of whether Obama is a "progressive".

Yeah I have only been able to watch parts of this debate but it seemed genuinely crap with really not about the issues questions

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Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
Who chose these questions, Chuck?

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Bad Caller posted:

why not do everything

I don't trust that campaign finance reform can be done in a meaningful way that doesn't also exclude, say, collective spending by unions.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Rexicon1 posted:

I'm just being realistic about my politics.

Like I said, p. dramatic.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Arkane posted:

this makes no sense

it'd be remarkably easy with a president that wanted to get it done

What, exactly, would be easy to do

Yudo
May 15, 2003

Joementum posted:

I don't trust that campaign finance reform can be done in a meaningful way that doesn't also exclude, say, collective spending by unions.

What unions?

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

Tatum Girlparts posted:

What, exactly, would be easy to do

you can do anything, if you put your mind to it!

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



Joementum posted:

I don't trust that campaign finance reform can be done in a meaningful way that doesn't also exclude, say, collective spending by unions.

I mean I'm fine with unions losing that power too, so long as companies get hampered. Unions should just mobilize their people to donate to the candidate they think they'd want. Companies could too with its employees, so long as there's no strongarming.

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

Don't screw up

Rasta_Al
Jul 14, 2001

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.
Fun Shoe
Bernie looked so happy when he saw his wife. How sweet. Haha...

Rynn
Jul 23, 2003

"Political revolution"

JESUS CHRIST EXPLAIN HOW THIS WILL HAPPEN BERNIE.

Combed Thunderclap
Jan 4, 2011



Well thank god that's over

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Joementum posted:

I don't trust that campaign finance reform can be done in a meaningful way that doesn't also exclude, say, collective spending by unions.

Basically yeah. A lot of campaign finance that is not hedge funds, wall street, etc, is collectivized spending that is very much in the spirit of socialist electioneering. Railing against all of it as a whole is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Arkane
Dec 19, 2006

by R. Guyovich

Joementum posted:

I don't trust that campaign finance reform can be done in a meaningful way that doesn't also exclude, say, collective spending by unions.

supreme court will take care of that in a few months

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

"good evening im crhis matthews"


whgat thefuck

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



Rynn posted:

"Political revolution"

JESUS CHRIST EXPLAIN HOW THIS WILL HAPPEN BERNIE.

young people go out and vote

people make grassroots support for candidates

BAM

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

Rynn posted:

"Political revolution"

JESUS CHRIST EXPLAIN HOW THIS WILL HAPPEN BERNIE.

VOTING, duh

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
This was a terrible loving debate.

Thanks MSNBC.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Bad Caller posted:

I mean I'm fine with unions losing that power too, so long as companies get hampered. Unions should just mobilize their people to donate to the candidate they think they'd want. Companies could too with its employees, so long as there's no strongarming.

Unions are already being completely destroyed both inside and out, don't take that away from them too.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Yudo posted:

What unions?

The many ones that exist, and would be also hurt by broad 'campaign finance reform'.


Bad Caller posted:

I mean I'm fine with unions losing that power too, so long as companies get hampered. Unions should just mobilize their people to donate to the candidate they think they'd want. Companies could too with its employees, so long as there's no strongarming.

Yea unions need less weight in politics in America, they should just take the hit.

mannerup
Jan 11, 2004

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Rynn posted:

"Political revolution"

JESUS CHRIST EXPLAIN HOW THIS WILL HAPPEN BERNIE.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







we need a better :poland:

like a crying vehicle part, or a country without a written language until the late 19th century.

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



Rynn posted:

"Political revolution"

JESUS CHRIST EXPLAIN HOW THIS WILL HAPPEN BERNIE.

Well first we throw up some guillotines, and then anyone in a three piece suit get's a nice neck rest

Yudo
May 15, 2003

Rynn posted:

"Political revolution"

JESUS CHRIST EXPLAIN HOW THIS WILL HAPPEN BERNIE.

remeber the regan revolution? The gingrich revolution? its nothing new, its just only the conservatives do it

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Rynn posted:

"Political revolution"

JESUS CHRIST EXPLAIN HOW THIS WILL HAPPEN BERNIE.

500,000 people with pitchforks outside of Mitch McConnel's office :getin:

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



Yoshifan823 posted:

Unions are already being completely destroyed both inside and out, don't take that away from them too.

I mean in a Bernie government union strengthening would hopefully happen before you crushed union lobbying

Combed Thunderclap
Jan 4, 2011



Chuck Todd bragging about how they did 30 days' debate prep work in 5 days.

No, Chuck, I don't think you did.

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004
So who won?

Fix
Jul 26, 2005

NEWT THE MOON

Yoshifan823 posted:

Seriously, I want you to answer this question honestly:

Are you secretly John Dickerson?

Joementum hasn't uncomfortably pushed the idea of "lanes" when discussing the Republican race, so no.

Prorat
Aug 3, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
I'm voting based on hotness of wives.

Rexicon1
Oct 9, 2007

A Shameful Path Led You Here
Can't wait to hear Chris Matthews tell me how much Hillary swept the floor with Bernie for ambiguous reason.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Yudo posted:

remeber the regan revolution? The gingrich revolution? its nothing new, its just only the conservatives do it

Oh so he's going to be supporting downticket races even during the presidential race?

Uh...someone should...tell him...

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



Prorat posted:

I'm voting based on hotness of wives.

post bill in drag please

Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004

Pick posted:

This was a terrible loving debate.

Thanks MSNBC.
I feel the need to sleep on it before forming final opinions, but I think I can stand behind this.

Combed Thunderclap posted:

Chuck Todd bragging about how they did 30 days' debate prep work in 5 days.

No, Chuck, I don't think you did.
Quantity = quality, right????

Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer

MSNBC

mannerup
Jan 11, 2004

♬ I Know You're Dying Trying To Figure Me Out♬

♬My Name's On The Tip Of Your Tongue Keep Running Your Mouth♬

♬You Want The Recipe But Can't Handle My Sound My Sound My Sound♬

♬No Matter What You Do Im Gonna Get It Without Ya♬

♬ I Know You Ain't Used To A Female Alpha♬

Rexicon1 posted:

Can't wait to hear Chris Matthews tell me how much Hillary swept the floor with Bernie for ambiguous reason.

"HES A GOD drat SOCIALIST"

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Just an unreal level of poo poo in the questions, lighting, shooting, the whole bit

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Rynn posted:

"Political revolution"

JESUS CHRIST EXPLAIN HOW THIS WILL HAPPEN BERNIE.

Well, first you go out and vote.

Thats basically it. Voter turnout is in the toilet in this country.

Maybe wear red when you cast your vote so you can feel a little subversive?


This but without sarcasm.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Fix posted:

Joementum hasn't uncomfortably pushed the idea of "lanes" when discussing the Republican race, so no.

True, but maybe he's just throwing us off the trail. He loves the Iowa Caucuses and election history and random historical government facts.

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mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

Tatum Girlparts posted:

Yea unions need less weight in politics in America, they should just take the hit.

bring em back to the blair mountain glory days

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