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Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope

The Peccadillo posted:

Someone should put a bin under that cross he's up on then pry out the nails

Hand nails first.

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ColtMcAsskick
Nov 7, 2010
3 students walk into a computer lab, get told they can't use it and then post online how they think it was unfair. Then they get sued.

Sounds loving stupid to me

Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope

ColtMcAsskick posted:

3 students walk into a computer lab, get told they can't use it and then post online how they think it was unfair. Then they get sued.

Sounds loving stupid to me

That's certainly a fair and balanced appraisal of the situation leaving out no important details. You should work for News Ltd.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

katlington posted:

Malcolm Turnbull says states must lift taxes to share rising health costs
http://gu.com/p/4ge55

I'll happily pay more tax when businesses pay their fair share too.

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ColtMcAsskick
Nov 7, 2010
I'm having trouble seeing how it deserves a referral to the HRC but please, enlighten me

Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope

ColtMcAsskick posted:

I'm having trouble seeing how it deserves a referral to the HRC but please, enlighten me

Yeah, I might have jumped down your neck a little there if you only read the last article posted. There's more details when it was first posted http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3762587&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=8#post455805168

MiniSune
Sep 16, 2003

Smart like Dodo!

gay picnic defence posted:

Adani has frozen its investment in Australia’s largest proposed coalmine until world coal prices show a clear recovery, its executives have indicated in stock analyst briefings in India.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/feb/04/adani-freezes-investment-in-carmichael-mine-until-world-coal-price-recovers?CMP=soc_567

Good thing my company spent 100k in that tender then.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

NTRabbit posted:

Anyone advocating "safe spaces" and segregation has no business being on a university campus, and that includes women's collectives. That's the sort of pseudo scientific nonsense that has turned American higher education into a public joke in recent months.

Okay cool so please link some articles where this is examined, and NOT from Vox Populi or "an anonymous professor wrote to me and said X"

e: no breitbart

ColtMcAsskick
Nov 7, 2010

Starshark posted:

Yeah, I might have jumped down your neck a little there if you only read the last article posted. There's more details when it was first posted http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3762587&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=8#post455805168

Having read this I still feel students and staff have been unfairly targeted and subsequently strongarmed (apart from the 'ITT: Niggers' person).

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do
Political Correctness Gone Wild

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop
gently caress when this first came up I likened it to the wymen's room kerfuffles of the nineties thinking that this adequately made the point. :eng99:

So for the hard of thinking:

Does disadvantage exist? Y/N

If N then you clearly are onto something.

If Y then this means it is entirely appropriate for extra 'things' to be available to the disadvantaged in society. If you are not a member of the disadvantaged group then you look like a complete weenie when you petulantly spout 'Not fair what about me?' More to the point YOU are the person blowing up the 'segregation' issue. This was a complete non-issue until some self entitled dick swingers decided to make it a personal crusade. It was mentioned in this thread that the particular computer labs are not in a high traffic area of the campus and it is reasonable to conclude it was an agent provocator type incident.

The irony of one of the men involved posting “more retarded than a women’s collective” more or less sealed their fate (at least in my eyes).

-/-

In that article about tightening immigration law due to TEARA :supaburn: am I the only one thinking, 'If we are so concerned about security why aren't we doing something to plug the security holes that allow "Marked "protected", "sensitive" and "cabinet", the document is believed to contain recommendations for Mr Dutton to present to Cabinet's National Security Committee." That's straight up treason right there. If something is PROTECTED CABINET-IN-CONFIDENCE it is due around the level of custody as SECRET. Given the document refers to the proceedings of the National Security Committee it is more correctly equivalent to TOP SECRET. These documents are excluded from public access for twenty years regardless of any other classifications (was thirty till recently).

This is serious poo poo and it isn't the first time since the NTATA - Turdball clown car crashed into parliament house. In a proper system you'd expect zealous investigation and prosecutions....

ColtMcAsskick
Nov 7, 2010
Granted cartoon but is it okay that they have to pony up $5000 just to avoid being sued for having an opinion which, as far as I can tell, isn't racist? (Apart from the obvious one)

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

The idea that these kinds of things are antithetical to academic inquiry is really confusing two entirely separate arguments.

Universities do two things: they teach and research, and they provide pastoral care. The two spheres should remain separate and the teaching and research side shouldn't have to worry about political correctness (and I mean this in the original sense, not that they shouldn't be polite to people or avoid using racist or sexist slurs or whatever). The pastoral care side should be doing whatever they need to do to ensure that students and researchers can succeed in whatever it is they are trying to do. If providing prayer rooms or indigenous centres helps with this then, as long as it's not disadvantaging anyone else, who cares?

[edit: I guess we'll have to wait until it goes to court to find out what the actual facts of the matter are. The Australian can't be trusted.]

open24hours fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Feb 5, 2016

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

ColtMcAsskick posted:

Granted cartoon but is it okay that they have to pony up $5000 just to avoid being sued for having an opinion which, as far as I can tell, isn't racist? (Apart from the obvious one)
Without knowing the full facts of the case I can't say. $5000 does seem a high penalty to pay for even lovely activism, Voltaire and all that. Cartoon - Open finding pending more information.

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do
Soon a voice whispers, arise, arise!

The safe space belooongs to meeeeee

Quantum Mechanic
Apr 25, 2010

Just another fuckwit who thrives on fake moral outrage.
:derp:Waaaah the Christians are out to get me:derp:

lol abbottsgonnawin

open24hours posted:

I guess there's no simple answer, but do the Greens leadership not want to campaign on free education for a reason? Worried about being painted as 'fiscally irresponsible' or something?

We don't have a good answer. Strongly suspect it's because of accusations of fiscal irresponsibility, yes.

Au Revoir Shosanna
Feb 17, 2011

i support this government and/or service
hi i'm malcolm turnbull and i really really want to raise the gst you guys

Periphery
Jul 27, 2003
...

Quantum Mechanic posted:

We don't have a good answer. Strongly suspect it's because of accusations of fiscal irresponsibility, yes.

Surely there's enough evidence to prove that it would be a fiscally and socially responsible thing to do?

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Periphery posted:

Surely there's enough evidence to prove that it would be a fiscally and socially responsible thing to do?

I've found the part of this that won't play with voters.

Evidence is meaningless, feels are important.

Periphery
Jul 27, 2003
...

hooman posted:

I've found the part of this that won't play with voters.

Evidence is meaningless, feels are important.

I guess the evidence is meaningless if you can't figure out the right way to sell the idea.

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



https://www.google.com.au/url?q=htt...PI4cN38TIjKG4cw

On phone, can someone grab this article for me??

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

The wowsers are slowly strangling inner-city Sydney:

quote:

The total and utter destruction of Sydney’s nightlife is almost complete.

A succession of incompetent governments has systematically dismantled the entire night time economy through a constant barrage of rules, regulation and social tinkering.

And oh, how ridiculous these rules have become in Sydney. A special little person has decided that there is a certain time at night when we are all allowed to go out, and there is a certain time that we are allowed into an establishment and a certain time that we are all supposed to be tucked into bed. There is a certain time we are allowed to buy some drinks, and over the course of the night the amount of drinks we are allowed to buy will change. The drinks we buy must be in a special cup made of a special material, and that special material will change over the course of the night at certain times. The cup has to be a certain size. It cannot be too big, because someone might die. Over the course of the night, this special little person will tell you what you can and cannot put into your cup because someone might die.

It is a long article and doesn't just stop at the decimation of night-culture (except for the casinos, but you knew that already, right?), but a religiously-motivated war on culture using the very weapons lefties love against them. To me, this is "Chicago syndrome", by which the heart of the city becomes culturally void like the heart of Chicago became physically void, and it's extremely unlikely that it will return. From my perspective, this has merely escalated a trend begun in the middle 80's when fire regulations were used to shut down most of the music venues in inner-city Sydney within 18 months of being passed. Only the bigger venues and the pubs who could afford to retool survived. This is an extension of that process, but it's gone beyond local council wowsers and now a big Premier wowser is booting it home. And don't think Melbourne is immune, it's not.

The same mechanism by which security theatre is used to take away our privacy is here being used, as safety theatre, to lock down our CBD's. Stay home. Don't gather in groups. Any public activity is rendered suspicious. Enjoy responsibly.

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay
oh no my liquors :qq:

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Lmao Gympie road is nothing but LNP billboards.

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay

Birdstrike posted:

the cross sucked anyway
good riddance

fiery_valkyrie
Mar 26, 2003

I'm proud of you, Bender. Sure, you lost. You lost bad. But the important thing is I beat up someone who hurt my feelings in high school.

tithin posted:

https://www.google.com.au/url?q=htt...PI4cN38TIjKG4cw

On phone, can someone grab this article for me??

A damaging feud between the senior executive of one of Australia’s largest unions and her own board remains unresolved after a potentially career-ending disciplinary hearing was abandoned amid accusations of bias.

A meeting of the national executive of the Financial Sector Union convened to hear charges of gross misbehaviour and gross neglect of duty against national secretary Fiona Jordan was yesterday adjourned while the union board seeks legal advice on whether it is too biased to determine the charges.

The truncated hearing, which was shifted at late notice from the ACTU’s Melbourne headquarters to the third floor of an Irish pub, failed to remove the impasse between Ms Jordan and senior union officials she accuses of undermining her attempts at reform.

Instead, the hour-long meeting appears to have created a fresh grievance, with the national executive refusing a request by Ms Jordan to have a support person present at the hearing.

Under the Fair Work Act, an unreasonable refusal by an employer for an employee to have a support person present when termination is discussed can be grounds for unfair dismissal. Prior to the hearing, Ms Jordan was informed that the charges against her were serious and if found guilty, the penalty would range from censure to removal from office.

Ms Jordan was denied legal representation at the hearing. Her chosen support person was an industrial relations consultant who has no affiliation with the union.

The meeting was chaired by union president Louise Arnfield. A date to resume the hearing was not set.

Ms Jordan, a long-serving home lending manager with Westpac popularly elected to the union’s top job 18 months ago, has previously lodged a bullying claim and the industrial equivalent of a restraining order against the union’s national executive. Those complaints are yet to be dealt with.

ACTU secretary David Oliver has tried without success to mediate a truce between Ms Jordan and one of her leading critics within the FSU, assistant national secretary Geoff Derrick.

The venue for yesterday’s meeting, the Celtic Club in Melbourne’s CBD, was the scene of an ugly confrontation during a break at last year’s FSU annual general meeting, when supporters of Ms Jordan and the national executive clashed heatedly.

Ms Jordan claims that a former union employee now advising a senior Victorian government minister told her shortly after she was elected to a four-year-term that the national executive “are going to peel you like an onion.’’

The national executive, which includes the national president, assistant national secretary, state secretaries and representatives from banks and financial institutions covered by the union, believes Ms Jordan has damaged the FSU and put at risk sensitive wage negotiations by publicly declaring war against the board.

In an open letter to members published in September on the union’s website, Ms Jordan accused a “hostile’’ national executive of taking “a series of extraordinary actions’’ to block her reform plans for the financially-troubled union.

“I understand the importance of having a functional organisation and for the national secretary to be answerable to a board as well as to the members,’’ she wrote. “But the level of corrosive, disingenuous and unaccountable behaviour has meant we have reached an impasse.’’

The national executive has sought to curtail Ms Jordan’s influence over the daily running of the union by introducing a series of rule changes which give the board more control over management decisions. Those changes are being resisted by some union members, who have circulated a petition in protest.

Magog
Jan 9, 2010

Birdstrike posted:

oh no my liquors :qq:

This but unironically. Well ironically, because I haven't been drinking in the city in like 4 years anyway.

It's not even about the cross anyway you muppets. The Sydney CBD Entertainment Precinct is also affected, AKA the city.

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



Lol @ that entire article.

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay
It's a dumb article which happens to raise a couple of good points. Yes, the lockout is a dumb idea, bankrolled by casino interests. But spare me the librtard histrionics.

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

in these days of alcopops and coward punches how could they not close the CBD? Please Mr Baird, keep me safe.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

"Guardian Au posted:

Victims sick at heart that George Pell won't front child sex abuse royal commission
Medical report from Rome kept secret but royal commissioner accepts that travelling to Australia might have ‘serious consequences’ for cardinal’s health

The cardinal won’t be coming. It’s his heart. A fresh medical report from Rome says it would be “difficult” for Cardinal George Pell to take the long flight home to give further evidence to the royal commission into the institutional responses to child sexual abuse.

“It doesn’t preclude his travel,” observed the commissioner Peter McClellan. “It doesn’t say he can’t come.” But McClellan has accepted the verdict of Pell’s medicos that a journey home at this time might have “serious consequences” for His Eminence’s health.

It’s an unhappy outcome all round. McClellan wants him to give evidence in person. Abuse victims are keen to confront the man in the flesh. And the cardinal, it seems, may never walk the streets of his native Ballarat again.

Just how sick he is remains a mystery. Pell is keen to keep the finer details of his heart problems secret.

His counsel, Alan Myers QC, argued against releasing the medical reports in full: “All it would do is provoke some sort of debate in the press about the medical condition of Cardinal Pell. There is no public interest in that.”

Under strict secrecy, McClellan allowed four barristers to read the latest report. Unimpressed was Paul O’Dwyer SC who told the commission the two-page document revealed “common or garden problems in a man of the cardinal’s age”.

O’Dwyer represents the school principal Graeme Sleeman who lost his job after trying to get rid of a deranged paedophile, Fr Peter Searson. The Searson case is a problem for Pell: he investigated the priest and left him in his Melbourne parish.

Sleeman never worked in the Catholic school system again.


O’Dwyer observed that the difficulties facing Pell “fade into insignificance” compared with the pain and distress of victims giving evidence to the commission.

But none of the barristers – some in Sydney and some gathered in Melbourne – challenged the medical report outright. One or two remarked that they were not cardiologists and had no access to cardiologists to contest its conclusions.

Barristers and the commission threw around possible solutions: could the cardinal come by short stages? What about oxygen on the flight? Could he, wondered the commissioner, come by sea?

But time is on Pell’s side. “There is a need,” said McClellan, “to bring the matter to an end as soon as we can conveniently do so.”

He is going to consider his position over the weekend but the commissioner clearly signalled that Pell will be allowed to give evidence by video link from Rome beginning on 29 February.

He is expected to be in the box for about four days: three days’ questioning by counsel assisting the commission, Gail Furness SC, and another day’s questioning by the barristers representing victims.

McClellan also foreshadowed he will release some, at least, of the cardinal’s medical report on Monday. The public, he said, had a right to know why Pell would not be present in the flesh. His counsel agreed. He told the commission his client was anxious “to avoid the appearance of unwillingness to give evidence”.

gently caress Pell, I wish hell were real so that he'd burn there forever, the irredeemable child abuser protecting coward.

BlitzkriegOfColour
Aug 22, 2010

ewe2 posted:

The wowsers are slowly strangling inner-city Sydney:


It is a long article and doesn't just stop at the decimation of night-culture (except for the casinos, but you knew that already, right?), but a religiously-motivated war on culture using the very weapons lefties love against them. To me, this is "Chicago syndrome", by which the heart of the city becomes culturally void like the heart of Chicago became physically void, and it's extremely unlikely that it will return. From my perspective, this has merely escalated a trend begun in the middle 80's when fire regulations were used to shut down most of the music venues in inner-city Sydney within 18 months of being passed. Only the bigger venues and the pubs who could afford to retool survived. This is an extension of that process, but it's gone beyond local council wowsers and now a big Premier wowser is booting it home. And don't think Melbourne is immune, it's not.

The same mechanism by which security theatre is used to take away our privacy is here being used, as safety theatre, to lock down our CBD's. Stay home. Don't gather in groups. Any public activity is rendered suspicious. Enjoy responsibly.

Wow, congratulations on reposting the same article I already posted about two pages ago.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

BlitzkriegOfColour posted:

Wow, congratulations on reposting the same article I already posted about two pages ago.

I love you bb but you are bragging about being first to post a LinkedIn article.

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BlitzkriegOfColour
Aug 22, 2010

Birb Katter posted:

I love you bb but you are bragging about being first to post a LinkedIn article.

pavel_pink_gun_erection.jpg

That's not bragging. If I'm bragging about something, you'll know it, because that is when I, an already insufferable person, am at my most insufferable

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

Birdstrike posted:

It's a dumb article which happens to raise a couple of good points. Yes, the lockout is a dumb idea, bankrolled by casino interests. But spare me the librtard histrionics.

Yeah, that's kinda the pain about this one. He makes good points, and he's genuinely managed to find good data to back them up, but then he just vomits a bunch of libertarian nonsense all over it instead of either following it to its actual source or, better yet, just letting the facts stand and not publishing a boated mess of an article.

EDIT: Actually, since I just now got confirmation I'm actually getting a job that will involve me moving to Melbourne. The scene isn't that dire there, is it?

Cleretic fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Feb 5, 2016

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

Cleretic posted:

Yeah, that's kinda the pain about this one. He makes good points, and he's genuinely managed to find good data to back them up, but then he just vomits a bunch of libertarian nonsense all over it instead of either following it to its actual source or, better yet, just letting the facts stand and not publishing a boated mess of an article.

EDIT: Actually, since I just now got confirmation I'm actually getting a job that will involve me moving to Melbourne. The scene isn't that dire there, is it?

It's actually worse because it's Melbourne.

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chyaroh
Aug 8, 2007

hooman posted:

gently caress Pell, I wish hell were real so that he'd burn there forever, the irredeemable child abuser protecting coward.

It's a piss-poor excuse - "Oh, you can't fly because of 'health reasons'? Poor you, here is a boat ticket. See you when you dock."

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

chyaroh posted:

It's a piss-poor excuse - "Oh, you can't fly because of 'health reasons'? Poor you, here is a boat ticket. See you when you dock."

You can't come here by boat, haven't you been paying attention?

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thatfatkid
Feb 20, 2011

by Azathoth
I for one will not be satisfied until any possible fun adult activity has been criminalised and government mandated bike helmets are required for anyone located with 5km of a nightlife district.

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open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

Mandatory zorbs.

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