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Looper: Mar 1, 2012

Kaubocks posted:

is there a limit to how many rocket launchers you can buy? because I'd seriously consider that for any repeat playthroughs

depends how much money it would waste I guess

I've never fought the second gigante without a rocket launcher, just go for it

# ? Feb 4, 2016 19:06

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# ? May 18, 2024 04:19

Looper: Mar 1, 2012

irlZaphod posted:

I don't think that guy understands what a port is but he's not a programmer so w/e

yeah i guess if you're being pedantic

# ? Feb 4, 2016 19:25

enojy: Sep 11, 2001; bass rattle
stars out
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Help Im Alive posted:

Could there really be a person out there that hasn't played RE4

I played it up to the point of being on some elevated wooden dock/platform surrounded by fire. That's all I remember. It couldn't have been very far in the game, but I lost interest, due to the whole "it's so easy to :filez:

PS2 games" era. I didn't like the predicament of being stuck on a wooden bridge surrounded by fire. poo poo sucks.

# ? Feb 4, 2016 19:31

deadly_pudding: May 13, 2009; who the fuck is scraeming
"LOG OFF" at my house.
show yourself, coward.
i will never log off

Looper posted:

yeah i guess if you're being pedantic

He said himself he's not a programmer. He doesn't know a programming language, just how to use Game Maker. Which doesn't compile into whatever the Wii U uses. He would basically have to take all of his assets and remake all the game logic from scratch in a Nintendo SDK.

# ? Feb 4, 2016 20:11

Looper: Mar 1, 2012

deadly_pudding posted:

He said himself he's not a programmer. He doesn't know a programming language, just how to use Game Maker. Which doesn't compile into whatever the Wii U uses. He would basically have to take all of his assets and remake all the game logic from scratch in a Nintendo SDK.

when most people say port, they just mean "game on one system is now on another"

# ? Feb 4, 2016 20:16

ChaosArgate: Oct 10, 2012; Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

And to do that, he'd have to rebuild the entire game's logic from scratch in a format that compiles and runs on Wii U since his "engine" isn't Wii U compatible. Just as a general example, if I had a program in Python that just displayed the words "Hello World", the code would look like this.

code:

print "Hello World"

If I wanted that exact same function in, say, Java, I can't just take my Python code and dump it into a Java compiler; I'd have to rewrite it to use the equivalent Java functions so my program would look like this:

code:

System.out.println("Hello World");

That's not a hard porting job because most languages have a built in function to print text to the console, but that's the general gist of porting from one language to another. Other things you have to account for are things that are different between systems when porting, so oftentimes you can't just take the code from, say, Dark Souls for Xbox 360, and directly convert all of the code 1:1 for a PC or PS3 port. Sometimes the game logic is tied to the hardware it runs on so porting stuff over directly can cause major issues, such as with the driving in Saints Row 2. That's tied to system clock speed, I believe, so it works fine on 360 and PS3, but it's hosed up on PCs, which generally run faster.

Porting jobs are mostly easy these days since middleware engines are all the rage and it's easy to make a game in Unreal and compile Xbox, Playstation and PC versions, but Game Maker doesn't have that luxury and it'd probably be an arduous process for someone who's not a programmer to do a porting job of that to Wii U.

# ? Feb 4, 2016 20:28

greatn: Nov 15, 2006; by Lowtax

Does game maker support any console platforms?

# ? Feb 4, 2016 20:39

Color Printer: May 9, 2011; You get used to it. I don't
even see the code. All I see
is Ipecac, Scapular, Polyphemus...

greatn posted:

Does game maker support any console platforms?

Yes, after paying a bunch of extra money, it supports XBox One, PS3, PS4, and PS Vita, as well as iOS, Android and some other mobile stuff.

You'll notice nothing Nintendo was on that list. :v:

# ? Feb 4, 2016 20:42

In Training: Jun 28, 2008

No game maker game would ever receive the Nintendo Seal of Quality.

# ? Feb 4, 2016 20:44

deadly_pudding: May 13, 2009; who the fuck is scraeming
"LOG OFF" at my house.
show yourself, coward.
i will never log off

greatn posted:

Does game maker support any console platforms?

XBone, PS3, PS4, Vita.

edit: Beaten like your save file after completing a loop of UnderTale :v:

# ? Feb 4, 2016 20:44

Dave Angel: Sep 8, 2004

Ahh, RE4, that takes me back...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s4OZcV-5fE

# ? Feb 4, 2016 20:51

Looper: Mar 1, 2012

ChaosArgate posted:

And to do that, he'd have to rebuild the entire game's logic from scratch in a format that compiles and runs on Wii U since his "engine" isn't Wii U compatible. Just as a general example, if I had a program in Python that just displayed the words "Hello World", the code would look like this.
code:
print "Hello World"
If I wanted that exact same function in, say, Java, I can't just take my Python code and dump it into a Java compiler; I'd have to rewrite it to use the equivalent Java functions so my program would look like this:
code:
System.out.println("Hello World");
That's not a hard porting job because most languages have a built in function to print text to the console, but that's the general gist of porting from one language to another. Other things you have to account for are things that are different between systems when porting, so oftentimes you can't just take the code from, say, Dark Souls for Xbox 360, and directly convert all of the code 1:1 for a PC or PS3 port. Sometimes the game logic is tied to the hardware it runs on so porting stuff over directly can cause major issues, such as with the driving in Saints Row 2. That's tied to system clock speed, I believe, so it works fine on 360 and PS3, but it's hosed up on PCs, which generally run faster.

Porting jobs are mostly easy these days since middleware engines are all the rage and it's easy to make a game in Unreal and compile Xbox, Playstation and PC versions, but Game Maker doesn't have that luxury and it'd probably be an arduous process for someone who's not a programmer to do a porting job of that to Wii U.

i uh, i know that :shobon:

that's not why i was making fun of that guy

# ? Feb 4, 2016 20:54

Kaubocks: Apr 13, 2011

chaosargate don't ignore my post demanding you play resident evil 4 you gently caress

# ? Feb 4, 2016 21:09

ChaosArgate: Oct 10, 2012; Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Kaubocks posted:

chaosargate don't ignore my post demanding you play resident evil 4 you gently caress

Maybe next time it goes on sale. :shobon:

# ? Feb 4, 2016 21:23

Augus: Mar 9, 2015

Does RE4 require a motion control to play on Wii U?

# ? Feb 4, 2016 23:39

Rirse: May 7, 2006; by R. Guyovich

Augus posted:

Does RE4 require a motion control to play on Wii U?

No, which means you could use it on the Gamepad. That said, it has one of the best uses of motion controls on the Wii.

# ? Feb 4, 2016 23:51

Help Im Alive: Nov 8, 2009

I'm not sure but if you're not planning on using the Wii Remote/Nunchuk I dunno why you'd be considering the Wii version over the HD versions on PC/PS3 etc

# ? Feb 4, 2016 23:51

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Help Im Alive posted:

I'm not sure but if you're not planning on using the Wii Remote/Nunchuk I dunno why you'd be considering the Wii version over the HD versions on PC/PS3 etc

I've heard it's one of the few Wii titles that used the Wiimote/Nunchuk combo to great effect.

Also the HD version was poo poo. At least on PC.

# ? Feb 5, 2016 00:40

SeANMcBAY: Jun 28, 2006; Look on the bright side.

Rexroom posted:

I've heard it's one of the few Wii titles that used the Wiimote/Nunchuk combo to great effect.

Also the HD version was poo poo. At least on PC.

A newer version came out on PC 2 years ago that isn't poo poo.

# ? Feb 5, 2016 01:36

Lemon-Lime: Aug 6, 2009

SeANMcBAY posted:

A newer version came out on PC 2 years ago that isn't poo poo.

That's the HD version.

Which wasn't poo poo, so that dude's wrong. It's a great port, especially since they fixed mouse aiming a month or so after release so the mouse now acts like a mouse instead of emulating a Wiimote.

# ? Feb 5, 2016 01:38

Meowywitch: Jan 14, 2010; Fight for all that is beautiful in the world

The only flaw I can think RE4 has is not all of the weapons are balanced. The Mine Thrower is fun to gently caress around with but kinda useless, and I've never been a fan of the TMP. Is it even worth buying the Riot Shotgun?

# ? Feb 5, 2016 04:28

SeANMcBAY: Jun 28, 2006; Look on the bright side.

voltcatfish posted:

The only flaw I can think RE4 has is not all of the weapons are balanced. The Mine Thrower is fun to gently caress around with but kinda useless, and I've never been a fan of the TMP. Is it even worth buying the Riot Shotgun?

It's good when its upgraded but I prefer the normal shotgun. I kinda like that some weapons not as good. It's fun to mess around crappy stuff like the TMP after you're playing the game for the 3rd or 4th time.

# ? Feb 5, 2016 04:38

C-Euro: Mar 20, 2010; Soiled Meat

voltcatfish posted:

The only flaw I can think RE4 has is not all of the weapons are balanced. The Mine Thrower is fun to gently caress around with but kinda useless, and I've never been a fan of the TMP. Is it even worth buying the Riot Shotgun?

I think it handles faster, or at least it aims faster, but the wider spread of the Striker makes the faster aiming less useful. Besides, shotguns are more important for their knockback than their damage, at least among mook-level enemies.

Even so,

In Training posted:

it really, truly is one of the best games ever.

# ? Feb 5, 2016 04:46

Looper: Mar 1, 2012

voltcatfish posted:

The only flaw I can think RE4 has is not all of the weapons are balanced. The Mine Thrower is fun to gently caress around with but kinda useless, and I've never been a fan of the TMP. Is it even worth buying the Riot Shotgun?

the tmp's niche is better filled by the shotgun and grenades in story mode but it's also part of what makes HUNK so great

# ? Feb 5, 2016 04:52

MisterAlex: Dec 4, 2004; For Blood, Comic Mischief, Mature Humor, Nudity, Strong Language, Suggestive Themes, Use of Alcohol, and Intense Violence.

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Rirse posted:

That said, it has one of the best uses of motion controls on the Wii.

lol.

# ? Feb 5, 2016 05:15

Looper: Mar 1, 2012

MisterAlex posted:

lol.

are you being for real right now

# ? Feb 5, 2016 05:20

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Looper posted:

are you being for real right now

Heh, if you don't think that "wiggle back and forth to [anything]" isn't absurd, then nevermind. We're probably on totally different planes.

To be fair, I've always felt like the Wii remote's motion control was weak at best and nonsensical at worst. MotionPlus made it a bit better, but then I had to deal with the frustrating controls in Skyward Sword... No, I'm not swinging upward; I'm bringing the sword up so I can slice diagonally downward... stupid.

# ? Feb 5, 2016 05:23

Looper: Mar 1, 2012

MisterAlex posted:

Heh, if you don't think that "wiggle back and forth to [anything]" isn't absurd, then nevermind. We're probably on totally different planes.

To be fair, I've always felt like the Wii remote's motion control was weak at best and nonsensical at worst. MotionPlus made it a bit better, but then I had to deal with the frustrating controls in Skyward Sword... No, I'm not swinging upward; I'm bringing the sword up so I can slice diagonally downward... stupid.

would you rather be wiggling the control stick

would you rather use a control stick to aim in a shooting game

# ? Feb 5, 2016 05:25

MisterAlex: Dec 4, 2004; For Blood, Comic Mischief, Mature Humor, Nudity, Strong Language, Suggestive Themes, Use of Alcohol, and Intense Violence.

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Looper posted:

would you rather be wiggling the control stick

would you rather use a control stick to aim in a shooting game

I wouldn't rather be wiggling anything, but if I'm having to rapidly do anything that isn't a button press, moving a stick a quarter of an inch with my thumb is preferable to shaking a remote control wildly in my hand.

And yes, I would definitely prefer a stick to the Wii remote's aiming (though a mouse is always nice). The Wii remote's tracking is terribly laggy and unreliable.

Edit: The PS Move's tracking is pretty good. I'd probably be fine with using that to aim. I'm not against motion controls entirely; I'm just unimpressed with the Wii's.

# ? Feb 5, 2016 05:31

enojy: Sep 11, 2001; bass rattle
stars out
the sky

It's "waggle" guys, waggle

# ? Feb 5, 2016 06:01

Kaubocks: Apr 13, 2011

I prefer woggle

# ? Feb 5, 2016 06:03

Suspicious Cook: Oct 9, 2012; Onward to burgers!

Sometimes wyggle.

# ? Feb 5, 2016 07:17

Big Coffin Hunter: Aug 13, 2005

big ups to the underdog wuggle

# ? Feb 5, 2016 07:20

Instruction Manuel: May 15, 2007; Yes, it is what it looks like!

Resident Evil 4 owns, hth.

# ? Feb 5, 2016 07:24

Ometeotl: Feb 13, 2012; It's MISSEL! Or SISSLE!
I confused myself...

MisterAlex posted:

Edit: The PS Move's tracking is pretty good. I'd probably be fine with using that to aim. I'm not against motion controls entirely; I'm just unimpressed with the Wii's.

Hahaha, what? The Move required a camera tracking a glowing ball. It was laggier than Wiimotes because of that.

# ? Feb 5, 2016 07:37

Austrian mook: Feb 24, 2013; by Shine

MisterAlex posted:

Heh, if you don't think that "wiggle back and forth to [anything]" isn't absurd, then nevermind. We're probably on totally different planes.

To be fair, I've always felt like the Wii remote's motion control was weak at best and nonsensical at worst. MotionPlus made it a bit better, but then I had to deal with the frustrating controls in Skyward Sword... No, I'm not swinging upward; I'm bringing the sword up so I can slice diagonally downward... stupid.

You're using the motion controls in SS wrong by the way. That's not how it tracks movements.

# ? Feb 5, 2016 08:03

Looper: Mar 1, 2012

MisterAlex posted:

I wouldn't rather be wiggling anything, but if I'm having to rapidly do anything that isn't a button press, moving a stick a quarter of an inch with my thumb is preferable to shaking a remote control wildly in my hand.

And yes, I would definitely prefer a stick to the Wii remote's aiming (though a mouse is always nice). The Wii remote's tracking is terribly laggy and unreliable.

Edit: The PS Move's tracking is pretty good. I'd probably be fine with using that to aim. I'm not against motion controls entirely; I'm just unimpressed with the Wii's.

a wiimote would have to be pretty crazy laggy to be as slow as aiming with a stick

# ? Feb 5, 2016 08:06

And More: Jun 19, 2013; How far, Doctor?
How long have you lived?

MisterAlex posted:

I wouldn't rather be wiggling anything, but if I'm having to rapidly do anything that isn't a button press, moving a stick a quarter of an inch with my thumb is preferable to shaking a remote control wildly in my hand.

The Wii remote's tracking is terribly laggy and unreliable.

There are pills for that, you know. :v:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEzy1IE2x0c

# ? Feb 5, 2016 08:26

Lemon-Lime: Aug 6, 2009

voltcatfish posted:

Is it even worth buying the Riot Shotgun?

~~Its final upgrade is a 100 shell magazine, which will carry you through some of the harder difficulties because upgrading ammo capacity fills your magazine to the max.~~

Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 13:53 on Feb 5, 2016

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# ? May 18, 2024 04:19

irlZaphod: Mar 26, 2004; Kiss the Joycon to Kiss Zelda

MisterAlex posted:

To be fair, I've always felt like the Wii remote's motion control was weak at best and nonsensical at worst. MotionPlus made it a bit better, but then I had to deal with the frustrating controls in Skyward Sword... No, I'm not swinging upward; I'm bringing the sword up so I can slice diagonally downward... stupid.

If you were moving the Wiimote up so that you could slide downwards then you're playing Skyward Sword wrong, hth

# ? Feb 5, 2016 12:11

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