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I foil all swinetaurs by just clearing the corpses and locking them to the front. They are junk at that point. Now mother loving tree branch smackdown, that is still a fight that is annoying.
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what does Trot Retreat actually do apart from move the swinetaur
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It moves the swinetaur
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Rascyc posted:I foil all swinetaurs by just clearing the corpses and locking them to the front. They are junk at that point.
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Fourth mission abandoned tonight, though at least this one brought in some good loot. For reference, I'd recently sunk quite a bit of money into preparing a number of my higher-level characters for various expeditions - leveling up their equipment and abilities, learning key camping skills - only the first such mission (the one with the world's most resilient swinetaur) to go belly up in a bad way. Brought back quite a few heirlooms from that run, but cash not so much. Not wanting to risk losing my star players due to budget-related problems, my last three missions have all been throwing fresh (or almost fresh) off the stagecoach recruits into whatever short apprentice dungeons are available to drum up some cash. Some of it's been the game's fault, some of it's been mine, but it's just been a nightmare all around. Lyrax posted:Not sure how legit this is but every Swinetaur I've ever faced has been foiled by great dodge chance. I still don't know how much Bull Rush is supposed to hit for. Bring a Man-At-Arms with Bolster and also Rampart for additional stun if you can. EDIT: On the plus side my guild is now fully upgraded. DOUBLE EDIT: FIFTH failed mission in a row. What is going on tonight. Bad Seafood fucked around with this message at 11:12 on Feb 5, 2016 |
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Feb 5, 2016 09:48
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Meiteron posted:I can imagine a real awkward conversation when I have to walk up to 4-5 of my primo shitwreckers and tell them that they're all fired so I can hire some grubby peasants to go get some money to outfit the rest of the group. On the bright side I still have two veteran-level bosses to kill, so at least I'll be able to cover those as well. "Guys, I can't keep people who refuse to do the work I want them to do because they believe they are better than that. If I tell you to kill low level rats, you kill low level rats. Pack up your poo poo, I want your desks clean by 11."
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Finally managed to break outta whatever kinda slump I was in to take down Wilbur and Orville. Initially I was gonna bring my best Grave Robber instead of an Occultist, but decided I'd been having a bad enough time as it was without risking the lack of a dedicated healer. The fight went off without a hitch and I even stumbled upon a secret room. Hopefully this means a shift back to my normal level of competency. Apologies for subjecting everybody to my  over the last page and a half.
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Oh, I meant to ask before, is there anything I can enter in the startup commands for DD that skips the intro cutscene/red hook/kickstarter/text blurb and just goes straight to the menu upon startup? I know some games have that, TF2's was very handy for skipping the Valve logo and such. Edit: boy, uh, I had not yet set foot into the non-EA champion level warrens Those champion swinetaurs, they sure are real fuckers huh Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 13:16 on Feb 5, 2016 |
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Bad Seafood posted:Finally managed to break outta whatever kinda slump I was in to take down Wilbur and Orville. This was how I just beat him but with a Hellion instead of a bounty hunter. I'm also the guy that brings the houndmaster to boss fights and forgets about dog treats
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I finally remembered to use a dog treat on a boss! Except the hag chucked the doggy in the pot first turn. Maybe next time 
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:what does Trot Retreat actually do apart from move the swinetaur All of its 'good' attacks need it to be in the back of the enemy formation, and move it forward.
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Rascyc posted:I foil all swinetaurs by just clearing the corpses and locking them to the front. They are junk at that point. I THINK tree branch smackdown only hits the very front so you can have a man at arms or houndmaster spam guard on the frontliner to keep their Prot+ and Dodge+ buffs up, but usually when I do that the motherfucker uses confusion spores and fucks everything up again 
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Swinetaurs are pretty cool, as far as their ability design goes, but I'm surprised to hear people have issues with them. Those guys just whiff all the time against me even on Champion, I don't even take them seriously anymore.
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Wizard Styles posted:Swinetaurs are pretty cool, as far as their ability design goes, but I'm surprised to hear people have issues with them. Those guys just whiff all the time against me even on Champion, I don't even take them seriously anymore. they're only scary if they manage to double stun your guys and somehow other enemies are still alive
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How Rude posted:I THINK tree branch smackdown only hits the very front so you can have a man at arms or houndmaster spam guard on the frontliner to keep their Prot+ and Dodge+ buffs up, but usually when I do that the motherfucker uses confusion spores and fucks everything up again
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Wizard Styles posted:Swinetaurs are pretty cool, as far as their ability design goes, but I'm surprised to hear people have issues with them. Those guys just whiff all the time against me even on Champion, I don't even take them seriously anymore. If I have the team setup to stun them while I clear out their pals/keep them in the front I'm not scared of them at all, but they are horrifying the second they get a real attack off. Pig spear is disgusting.
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Wizard Styles posted:Swinetaurs are pretty cool, as far as their ability design goes, but I'm surprised to hear people have issues with them. Those guys just whiff all the time against me even on Champion, I don't even take them seriously anymore. Every other encounter with them has been kill everyone else, then whittle them down over like 4-6 turns depending on how much the rng wants to gently caress with me. Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Feb 5, 2016 |
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I had no idea this could even happen: "OH poo poo! I mean, uh, hey guys, it's me again. Was just checking out my head collection and thought of you all, figured 'I haven't ambushed those guys in a while,' so... y'know... geez, is this how it feels when I do it? This... this isn't how I expected it to go is all."
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What, surprising the collector? Yeah its pretty common if you're running full torch runs
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Fairly certain after my 12 pounder surprising me that there is a check for it every single fight regardless of what it is
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I've run into him like two dozen plus times and it's always been either a standard battle or a surprise. Can you surprise a Shambler? I vaguely recall seeing someone do it once, but I've never managed to get anything but a regular fight that opens with the auto-shuffle.
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Nakar posted:I've run into him like two dozen plus times and it's always been either a standard battle or a surprise. I surprised him yesterday in a random hall fight so yeah for sure. Knocked off 1/2 his health before he got to go. Barely finished that cove run after that since that was my immediate first fight and his stupid lovely little nubbins still got to stress a bunch of guys out. Sloober fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Feb 5, 2016 |
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I beat my first shambler today, that is not a fun fight Like no matter what your party is not leaving that encounter intact, either physically or mentally, he's a real fucker. I thought you only encountered him from the interactables but I ran into one on a medium cove run and his stupid little anemone-looking fuckers took out my plague doctor before I could finish him off. Edit: lol good to see the hate for the little adds he makes is shared, the ones from the collector suck but are manageable, but those things really really are just hateful little bastards
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Nakar posted:I've run into him like two dozen plus times and it's always been either a standard battle or a surprise. The Shambler fight is always in pitch black and your party always gets surprised, even if you intentionally lit the altar knowing full well what was coming. Captain Invictus posted:Like no matter what your party is not leaving that encounter intact, either physically or mentally, he's a real fucker. I thought you only encountered him from the interactables but I ran into one on a medium cove run and his stupid little anemone-looking fuckers took out my plague doctor before I could finish him off. You have a low chance of encountering him if you wander in any dungeon in pitch black. A lot of dark runners still run torches for that fact and because <25 light is close to as good as pitch black for encounters/treasure. Lyrax fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Feb 5, 2016 |
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Captain Invictus posted:Like no matter what your party is not leaving that encounter intact, either physically or mentally, he's a real fucker. I thought you only encountered him from the interactables but I ran into one on a medium cove run and his stupid little anemone-looking fuckers took out my plague doctor before I could finish him off. He shows up in hallways randomly under pitch black conditions too.
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Lyrax posted:The Shambler fight is always in pitch black and your party always gets surprised, even if you intentionally lit the altar knowing full well what was coming.
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The wiki lies and I also have the worst luck. Time to stack Book of Intuitions during dark runs.
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Rascyc posted:Not entirely true. I've had an altar-spawned shambler not surprise me. Pretty rare though in my experience, probably just gets a huge modifier for surprising you and your own party buffs may act against it. Considering this line in the Shambler's data files: code:
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Sloober posted:Fairly certain after my 12 pounder surprising me that there is a check for it every single fight regardless of what it is No, that's just what I assume to be a bug with the canon fight. You can surprise only the normal bandits that spawn alongside it. So I'm guessing because they are normal enemies and not actually bosses the game still checks the surprise encounter roll for them. I've never seen any other boss be surprised.
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the houndmaster's sanity slips away as he realises the hellion is in fact played by jar jar binks e: the hellion is now dead of a heart attack Inexplicable Humblebrag fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Feb 5, 2016 |
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 38 turns. Huh. I probably could have prepared better for this boss.
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That might be the smuggest skeleton I've ever seen.
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How exactly does the stress / reinforcements anti-stalling mechanic work? Googling for it just gets me to a bunch of inspecific whining on the steam forums. Is it a hard round limit or does it trigger one round after there's one enemy left or what?
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I've only had the reinforcement thing activate once, and it was after three turns of stunlocking the one remaining enemy so I could heal up and stuff.
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Captain Invictus posted:I've only had the reinforcement thing activate once, and it was after three turns of stunlocking the one remaining enemy so I could heal up and stuff. Yeah this is the only time I've had it happen as well.
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   gently caress this game (and champion dungeons)
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Mzbundifund posted:How exactly does the stress / reinforcements anti-stalling mechanic work? Googling for it just gets me to a bunch of inspecific whining on the steam forums. Is it a hard round limit or does it trigger one round after there's one enemy left or what? Anecdotal but I've only had it happen when I was actually stalling, and not just failing to kill someone.
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FrickenMoron posted:
How stressful.
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Yeah I've only ever had the extra stress trigger when I was intentionally stalling a fight. I've never had reinforcements trigger at all.
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FrickenMoron posted:
I guess they weren't a fan of the well aged and eldritch-infused vintage.
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