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Count Bleck
Apr 5, 2010

DISPEL MAGIC!

Chairman Pow! posted:

This deaths shadow would have made a great deck tech, I am unfamiliar with it and cant tell what is going on.

Basically, you move to murder yourself as quickly as possible so you can play 5/5s for 1 at 8 life.

Turns out it's Not Very Good Against Burn­™

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rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


Chairman Pow! posted:

This deaths shadow would have made a great deck tech, I am unfamiliar with it and cant tell what is going on.

It's a zoo deck that plays stuff like Street Wraith and Gitaxian Probe that becomes basically card draw that also turns on your Death's Shadow. It's not really complicated.

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


Chairman Pow! posted:

This deaths shadow would have made a great deck tech, I am unfamiliar with it and cant tell what is going on.

Actually I'm pretty sure people wanted to know what was in totally new and not seen before decks affinity and burn.

Alaan
May 24, 2005

Chairman Pow! posted:

This deaths shadow would have made a great deck tech, I am unfamiliar with it and cant tell what is going on.

Cycle street wraiths(2 life a pop), grab untapped shocks with fetches, play swole Death's Shadow for B on T2.

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


JerryLee posted:

A few pages back, but I love that the Ulamog and Kozilek resolution did turn out to be, in fact, exactly as dumb as it appeared at face value. People were all like "well, it looks really dumb, but they could be planning to surprise us with a later plot twist... let's wait and see..."

:itwaspoo:

(I'm reading this correctly, right? Someone said on the PT coverage that yes, they really are for-reals dead?)

i recognize that getting mad at magic fiction is extremely plebeian behavior, but god drat am i mad at this loving retarded story development

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


Suicide Zoo isn't new it has been a fringe deck for awhile

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



Count Bleck posted:

Basically, you move to murder yourself as quickly as possible so you can play 5/5s for 1 at 8 life.

Turns out it's Not Very Good Against Burn­™

Actually it beats Burn as long as you focus on dealing damage and not trying to gain life.

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

i recognize that getting mad at magic fiction is extremely plebeian behavior, but god drat am i mad at this loving retarded story development

Basically everything story wise and design wise they have done with this return to Eldrazi stuff has been a huge flavor let down for me.

JerryLee
Feb 4, 2005

THE RESERVED LIST! THE RESERVED LIST! I CANNOT SHUT UP ABOUT THE RESERVED LIST!

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

i recognize that getting mad at magic fiction is extremely plebeian behavior, but god drat am i mad at this loving retarded story development

I mean, one almost literally cannot get the resolution of a cosmic horror plotline more wrong than this, so it's pretty offensive from a literary standpoint in addition to reducing our enjoyment of the wizard game

whether you think that literary critics are also dumb babies is, of course, an open question

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
Not to mention that four plucky retards accomplished what 3 premending godwalkers were apparently unable to do.

MiddleEastBeast
Jan 19, 2003

Forum Bully

JerryLee posted:

I mean, one almost literally cannot get the resolution of a cosmic horror plotline more wrong than this, so it's pretty offensive from a literary standpoint in addition to reducing our enjoyment of the wizard game

whether you think that literary critics are also dumb babies is, of course, an open question

I find nothing more boring than magic lore, but in like 1 sentence or less, what did they do so wrong?

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


They took cool alien and outlandish monsters that were supposedly beyond the scope of the MTG universe power levels and then had them die to stupid poo poo that people would throw a fit if it had defeated Nicol Bolas or the Phyrexians

suicidesteve
Jan 4, 2006

"Life is a maze. This is one of its dead ends.


MiddleEastBeast posted:

I find nothing more boring than magic lore, but in like 1 sentence or less, what did they do so wrong?

They lit the big, bad gods on fire then the gods died. Because they were on fire.

JerryLee
Feb 4, 2005

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MiddleEastBeast posted:

I find nothing more boring than magic lore, but in like 1 sentence or less, what did they do so wrong?

Imagine the Call of Cthulhu, but even though Cthulhu is a reality-warping cosmic horror that can never truly die, a bunch of teenagers kill him by tying him up and setting him on fire

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

rabidsquid posted:

Ulamog, Actually It Turns Out He Is The Finite Gyre and Kozilek, Dead Dickhead are going to be their next printed iterations

Ulamog wouldn't be Ceaselessly Hungry if he still had his Infinite Gyro :sigh:

Fuzzy Mammal posted:

Not to mention that four plucky retards accomplished what 3 premending godwalkers were apparently unable to do.

Until we're shown otherwise, the reason why is that Jace is apparently smarter than Ugin, Sorin and Nahiri.

Count Bleck
Apr 5, 2010

DISPEL MAGIC!

SEA GATE WRECKAGE ON SCREEN.

Alaan
May 24, 2005

JerryLee posted:

Imagine the Call of Cthulhu, but even though Cthulhu is a reality-warping cosmic horror that can never truly die, a bunch of teenagers kill him by tying him up and setting him on fire

To be fair Cthulhu was defeated by a boat driving into him. Not KILLED but still kind of a lame way to go out.

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


Angry Grimace posted:

Ulamog wouldn't be Ceaselessly Hungry if he still had his Infinite Gyro :sigh:


Until we're shown otherwise, the reason why is that Jace is apparently smarter than Ugin, Sorin and Nahiri.

I don't super pay attention to all MTG lore but isn't Sorins storyline on every plane basically: "im going to gently caress this angel babe i made" "im going to gently caress my idiot elf apprentice" "im going to gently caress the hedrons"

It doesn't seem like it's a big stretch to outsmart him

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


JerryLee posted:

Imagine the Call of Cthulhu, but even though Cthulhu is a reality-warping cosmic horror that can never truly die, a bunch of teenagers kill him by tying him up and setting him on fire

In war of the worlds, a technologically superior force, as in magnitudes, gets defeated by disease. I like the idea of the simplest solution not being found until later and leads to the defeat of otherwise insurmountable foes.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

rabidsquid posted:

I don't super pay attention to all MTG lore but isn't Sorins storyline on every plane basically: "im going to gently caress this angel babe i made" "im going to gently caress my idiot elf apprentice" "im going to gently caress the hedrons"

It doesn't seem like it's a big stretch to outsmart him

I have no idea if Sorin, the Pornomancer is either canon or an upcoming card.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

BJPaskoff posted:

Most of the Eldrazi deck, except for the manabase, is from one small set. drat.

Also, is everyone else very mildly annoyed by players at their LGS calling colorless mana "Wastes" or "Waste mana"? As in, "Reality Smasher costs four and one Wastes".

The artistic liberty most Magic players make with their words annoys the poo poo put of me.

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks
It doesn't matter because no one actually reads the story articles anyway.

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks
I'm rooting against Muller because he's using Jace sleeves.

Niton
Oct 21, 2010

Your Lord and Savior has finally arrived!

..got any kibble?

Chill la Chill posted:

In war of the worlds, a technologically superior force, as in magnitudes, gets defeated by disease. I like the idea of the simplest solution not being found until later and leads to the defeat of otherwise insurmountable foes.

Maybe the issue is that Ugin is just a really lovely dragon and can't actually produce fire, just some fire-looking magic.

I appreciate that Chandra's contribution to the story is "showed up, applied Ballard's First Principle, defeated the Big Bad", though.

logis
Dec 30, 2004
Slippery Tilde

Niton posted:

Maybe the issue is that Ugin is just a really lovely dragon and can't actually produce fire, just some fire-looking magic.

I appreciate that Chandra's contribution to the story is "showed up, applied Ballard's First Principle, defeated the Big Bad", though.



Ugin: "I tried fire".
Chandra: "Was it actually red?"

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

Entropic posted:

It doesn't matter because no one actually reads the story articles anyway.

I read them every single week and post a summary in the thread.

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

Angry Grimace posted:

I read them every single week and post a summary in the thread.

We commend your brave service doing it so that we don't have to.

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

Affinity player doing a pretty heroic grinding effort with Sea Gate Wreckage + Ghirapur AEther Grid

Count Bleck
Apr 5, 2010

DISPEL MAGIC!

Niton posted:

Maybe the issue is that Ugin is just a really lovely dragon and can't actually produce fire, just some fire-looking magic.

I appreciate that Chandra's contribution to the story is "showed up, applied Ballard's First Principle, defeated the Big Bad", though.



That's really nice art. I'm surprised I've never seen it before.

suicidesteve
Jan 4, 2006

"Life is a maze. This is one of its dead ends.


Chill la Chill posted:

In war of the worlds, a technologically superior force, as in magnitudes, gets defeated by disease. I like the idea of the simplest solution not being found until later and leads to the defeat of otherwise insurmountable foes.

Sure, that's interesting and all, but don't make the solution "literally setting the bad guys on fire."

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.
I'm reminded of that TCC video from a week or two ago where the guy was talking to Chandra and he's like "you're just a lovely Jaya Ballard clone" and she's like "my hair is red though." :allears:

Count Bleck
Apr 5, 2010

DISPEL MAGIC!

Angry Grimace posted:

I'm reminded of that TCC video from a week or two ago where the guy was talking to Chandra and he's like "you're just a lovely Jaya Ballard clone" and she's like "my hair is red though." :allears:

That was a surprisingly good video.

JerryLee
Feb 4, 2005

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Chill la Chill posted:

In war of the worlds, a technologically superior force, as in magnitudes, gets defeated by disease. I like the idea of the simplest solution not being found until later and leads to the defeat of otherwise insurmountable foes.

Yeah, but I mean the whole point of that is that it's something that the ~*~heroes~*~ never thought of and is actually somewhat humbling to them. Even with that, there's an argument to be made that it could be a better, less deus-ex-machina resolution, but H.G. Wells didn't workshop his stories with us and now it's a bit too late.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

Count Bleck posted:

That was a surprisingly good video.

I laughed a lot at the Gideon one where he's like "okay your name is Kytheon" and then Gideon's like "no, I changed it to Gideon" and then he goes "why?" and Gideon says "some guy who speaks the same language as me mispronounced it."

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

I mean it's actually Bonds of Mortality that did the important work. The whole thing is just a lesson in making sure you pack the right sideboard tech.

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010

Chill la Chill posted:

In war of the worlds, a technologically superior force, as in magnitudes, gets defeated by disease. I like the idea of the simplest solution not being found until later and leads to the defeat of otherwise insurmountable foes.

That works because the aliens were an allegory for British colonialism.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

Count Bleck posted:

Can I borrow your time machine? I'll pick you up a couple dozen .50 cent Goyfs.

In other news, Karn dropped a whole dollar today! Wow!

Oh hey poo poo it's actually come down a fair bit. I guess RG Tron isn't making as many waves as many people expected?

Pros HATE playing decks like Tron.

suicidesteve
Jan 4, 2006

"Life is a maze. This is one of its dead ends.


Irony Be My Shield posted:

I mean it's actually Bonds of Mortality that did the important work. The whole thing is just a lesson in making sure you pack the right sideboard tech.

Bonds of Mortality doesn't do anything to Kozilek and their plan wouldn't have done anything to stop Emrakul.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.
Tron isn't making waves because nobody is playing it.



The decks not listed have less than 13 players; Tron has 11. In contrast, there are 51 Affinity players and 32 players on Eldrazi.

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Count Bleck
Apr 5, 2010

DISPEL MAGIC!

mcmagic posted:

Pros HATE playing decks like Tron.

Pros hate good decks?

I guess that's why there's so much Eldrazi!! :haw:

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