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I actually visited a mental health and addiction counselling centre after meeting up with an old friend I hadn't seen in a while and becoming concerned for their mental health. They had some gang-stalkingesque ideas about the government though nothing quite as elaborate or alarming as what you see in those youtube videos. I talked with a volunteer out reach person for a little while and took a few pamphlets. But I was really just overwhelmed with how utterly ineffective and under funded the entire system was. There was clearly nothing they could do for my friend. It didn't help that my friend had no money, no high school diploma, no family members to support them and a personality that had gotten increasingly "quirky" to the point that they struggled to relate with normal people. I realized that trying to convince this person that they were mildly delusional would simply take away the last remaining shred of dignity in their lives without holding out any prospect for them improving their situation. As sad as their delusions seemed to me they basically amounted to a way for this person to convince themselves that their life mattered, that they had significance, that they weren't as irrelevant as society was telling them that they were. So while I did try to gently push back against some of the more dangerous sounding delusions about being followed by the government, I ended up concluding that trying to disabuse this person of all their delusional notions wouldn't really help anything, and actually probably would have just ended up hurting them further. I'm not claiming I made the right decision because I really don't know what the right call in that kind of situation was. But it did give me a greater appreciation for just how hard mental health issues are to deal with when they intersect with poverty. And while it's easy to laugh at these peoples ego-maniacal ideas about being followed, I wonder if, at least sometimes, on some level, these delusions aren't actually part of what lets them get out of bed in the morning. Anyway, the person in question has seemed to recover a fair amount since then and is doing about as well as could be hoped for given their circumstances. They still say a lot of things that don't make a drat lick of sense but honestly they seem happier than I could ever imagine being in their circumstances.
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# ? May 14, 2024 21:05 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YWywnP7m2c Vice linked this. Spectacular insanty. Hes ranting about new yorkers eating babies, the earth being flat and pretty much every conspiracy you can think of.
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 14:03 |
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Helsing posted:This "gangstalking" concept sounds really insidious for someone with mental illness because it seemingly tells you that your growing isolation and inability to relate to employers, landlords, government officials, etc. is all thanks to a vast conspiracy: Theres always been avenues for crazyness propagation. My best friend back in the early 90s developed paranoid schizophrenia, and essentially it was all about X-Files. He was convinced the show was real. Also, he had an invisible green goat friend named "Gentle ben". And his mom was poisoning his food with CIA nanobots.
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 14:07 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdxgIyEPCxk If there was a list of imagery/film clips that immediately imply your conspiracy video is going to be underwhelming, Neo choosing the red pill would be at the top.
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 16:24 |
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duck monster posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YWywnP7m2c
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 16:43 |
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Hell-o! I like the mix of existential dread with sheer madness. Individual freedom doesn't exist - we all have ties that bind.
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 17:03 |
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I thought it had to be a parody until I looked at the source channel and it's full of this stuff. What's more disturbing is that at about 8:55 in the linked video you can hear some kids in the background. It reminds me a lot of these incoherent videos from the guy that shot Gabrielle Giffords, Jared Loughner. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8Wr6AeZTCE
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 17:11 |
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Jack Gladney posted:Isn't this some dumb pop music thing now? I know legit crazies have been calling pop music part of the illuminati for years, but don't they talk about it on gossip shows now via some dumb memes? Yes and it's fascinating. Normally it's presented in long rambling essays interspersed with pictures. This guy on the other hand managed to retain enough editing skills to make a pretty readable pinterest style page on the subject. http://illuminatisymbols.info/music/
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 18:34 |
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Sir Tonk posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdxgIyEPCxk Flat Earth people have to be the most insane out there. The level of stupidity needed for it blows away anti-vaxxers, JFK, Moon landing, and other stuff by miles. I'd look up how they justify things like (international) air travel but I'm not sure I could handle that much concentrated crazy.
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 18:48 |
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Evil Fluffy posted:Flat Earth people have to be the most insane out there. The level of stupidity needed for it blows away anti-vaxxers, JFK, Moon landing, and other stuff by miles. I'd look up how they justify things like (international) air travel but I'm not sure I could handle that much concentrated crazy. The explanations I've found so far: 1) You can't prove routes like Buenos Aires to Johannesburg actually exist, and you can't prove that they don't really fly over North America, and I bet all those logs are faked anyway 2) I found a flight from South Africa to Australia that has a layover in India so obviously this is the shortest distance 3) That's irrelevant because you can't fly a plane on a oblate spheroid, you'd just fly out into space if you tried to fly level The Chairman fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Feb 6, 2016 |
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The Chairman posted:The two explanations I've seen: I love the assumption there that you can just do a layover in the middle of the Indian Ocean or something.
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 19:47 |
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It's kind of impressive that the Matrix has provided such an enduring lexicon of symbols and ideas that can be deployed by any group of internet crackpots. After almost 20 years the costumes look dated, the special effects and martial arts aren't quite as impressive, and the script seems more than a little hokey, but the movie has nevertheless secured its place in the pantheon of important 20th century cinema thanks, not least of all, to its enduring appeal to unhinged people of every type.
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 20:36 |
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The Chairman posted:3) That's irrelevant because you can't fly a plane on a oblate spheroid, you'd just fly out into space if you tried to fly level Gravity. Graaaavity. Gravity is a sphereish field that keeps us pulled towards the center of it. And surprise, we ca't break gravity without the use of something like rockets because once we get high enough up, jet engines don't work because they're meant for atmosphere and oxygen. Taking that and turning it around: If the world is flat why haven't we flown off of it with an airplane? Or is this one of those video game things where if you go off the screen you appear on the other side? And also: What is the end game of lying and saying the world is round? What does anyone get out of that?
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 20:46 |
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The Chairman posted:3) That's irrelevant because you can't fly a plane on a oblate spheroid, you'd just fly out into space if you tried to fly level I wonder if he's ever tried jumping, or if he's too scared he'll fly into space.
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 21:14 |
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The Chairman posted:The most famous of those (and the ones shown in Going Clear) were the "Squirrel Busters", hired by the Church of Scientology to harass their ex-Inspector General Marty Rathbun. The group is called "Squirrel Busters" because "squirrel" is a term for dissident Scientologists who "go off Source" (break from the CoS's authority). AH yes. And he does eventually try to rip the sunglasses off one of the guy faces, scratches him in the process, and they have the cops jump on his rear end. Though from the recordings they show, the cops were far from impressed by the Squirrel Buster guys complaints. Though they talk about in Going Clear how they also targeted Rathbun's wife, who had never had anything to do with CoS so they actually had to knock it off because it was then considered harassment. It sounds like if you're a former member, the CoS can basically do what it wants, but if you never had anything to do with them, the CoS has a harder time. The well aware guy is now claiming Tarpman was actually Ed Harris.
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 22:13 |
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E-Tank posted:And also: What is the end game of lying and saying the world is round? What does anyone get out of that? Big Globe. You know how many globes get sold every year? Classrooms have them, even!
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 22:22 |
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It's unacceptable that people still think the Earth is flat when Cyrus R Teed proved that we actually live on the inside of a huge concave sphere almost two hundred years ago. Most of the flat earthers are probably just on the payroll of the Illuminati. They're used to discredit all alternative theories about the earth thus preventing sheeple from recognizing the truth. quote:THE HOLLOW EARTH: A MADDENING THEORY THAT CAN'T BE DISPROVED
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 22:48 |
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Sir Tonk posted:I wonder if he's ever tried jumping, or if he's too scared he'll fly into space. Jumping is okay because whatever mysterious force is constantly accelerating the Earth-disk upwards at 9.8 m s-2 will just make it come up to meet your feet.
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 22:59 |
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The Chairman posted:Jumping is okay because whatever mysterious force is constantly accelerating the Earth-disk upwards at 9.8 m s-2 will just make it come up to meet your feet. if 2 people jump on opposite sides of the planet at the same time how does it know which way to go
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 23:25 |
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site posted:if 2 people jump on opposite sides of the planet at the same time how does it know which way to go Uh, if anyone was on the other side they'd fall off. Duh.
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 23:48 |
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site posted:if 2 people jump on opposite sides of the planet at the same time how does it know which way to go You can't jump on the other side of the planet, because you would then be inside of the giant space turtle.
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# ? Feb 8, 2016 16:31 |
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https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/2qjohv/what_did_your_parents_show_you_to_do_that_you/cn6pn30?context=3quote:Oh God here goes.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 06:17 |
I feel like at the center of every conspiracy theory there is a retarded numerology or spelling curiosity in which someone thinks he has discovered THE HIDDEN TRUTH.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 06:27 |
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Prester Jane posted:I believed it because I thought the "enemy" that the human race was being oppressed by must be so incredibly intelligent and so shockingly malicious that there was just no way it could be human. Not to say Icke and timecube and co are right, but that doesn't sound like an uncommon experience. If the complexity of the modern world is unfathomable for a man, then it must take a higher form of intelligence to understand it all and to direct it, otherwise it'd be chaos. That kind of nous might not come to someone whose mind is fixed on their next meal ticket and other things, but it might develop in someone up in the clouds and looking down on life. If to them people start to look like ants and they don't ever need to come down and rub shoulders, its not a stretch to imagine the attitude could become malicious. Add to that the power of altered states of mind, heightened awareness, peak experiences and we have a recipe for convincingly demonic intelligences. I think it's weird that you switched your ways of thinking twice. Do you think you could flip back again or do the drugs keep you in check?
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Stumbled on this today at work:wikipedia posted:The [Order of Nine Angles] promotes the idea that human history can be divided into a series of Aeons, each of which contain a corresponding human civilization. It expresses the view that the current Aeonic civilization is that of the Western, but claims that the evolution of this society is threatened by the "Magian/Nazarene" influence of Judeo-Christian religion, which the Order seeks to combat in order to establish a militaristic new social order, termed the "Imperium". According to Order teachings, this is necessary in order for a Galactic civilization to form, in which "Aryan" society will colonise the Milky Way. It advocates a spiritual path in which the practitioner is required to break societal taboos by isolating themselves from society, committing crimes, embracing political extremism and violence, and carrying out an act of human sacrifice. ONA members practice magick, believing that they are able to do so through channeling energies into our own "causal" realm from an "acausal" realm where the laws of physics do not apply, with such magical actions designed to aid in the ultimate establishment of the Imperium. And that started me on a hell of a wiki chain: quote:Several academic commentators to have studied the ONA express the view that the name "Anton Long" is probably the pseudonym of the British Neo-Nazi activist David Myatt, although Myatt has denied that this is the case. quote:David Wulstan Myatt[1] (born 1950), formerly known as Abdul-Aziz ibn Myatt[2] and Abdul al-Qari,[3] is the founder of The Numinous Way,[4][5][6] a former British Muslim,[6] and a former Neo-Nazi. From the talk page of that article: quote:Political scientist George Michael has written that Myatt is an "intriguing theorist," [9] with a reported IQ of 187, [9] who has embarked over the years on a series of "Faustian quests." [9] — I seriously doubt this guy has an IQ of 187, mainly, because he's a follower of Islam (not exactly a religion that attracts geniuses). It would be nice if someone could verify the source given for this bold statement.[6] ISBN 0700614443 page 142. — EliasAlucard (Discussion · contribs) 00:32, 16 January 2008 (UTC) I loving love it. All of it. But especially that talk page post. It's like a huge shaggy dog joke.
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 02:54 |
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So trump thinks Obama killed Scalia.
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sparatuvs posted:So trump thinks Obama killed Scalia. obama's got my vote then
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Stumbled on this today at work: Jesus christ this is dumb. A secretive satanic neo-nazi group that not only practices human sacrifice and coordinates gang activities (while advertising the fact widely on the internet!) but also uses small cells of artists and lesbians for their magical muscle? I really dig magicians, orders and such, and this has all the hallmarks of stdh.txt - not that you'd need half a brain to see that.
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Tias posted:Jesus christ this is dumb. A secretive satanic neo-nazi group that not only practices human sacrifice and coordinates gang activities (while advertising the fact widely on the internet!) but also uses small cells of artists and lesbians for their magical muscle? It sounds like something from the World of Darkness.
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Ratoslov posted:It sounds like something from the World of Darkness. I wouldn't be surprised if a drug-fuelled WoD gaming night lead to his cult idea.
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Ratoslov posted:It sounds like something from the World of Darkness. You jest, but this actually exists in WoD, the Generation Hex and Illuminati groups from the Werewolf Wyrm faction.
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 18:06 |
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I just heard the best conspiracy theory this morning - Wilt Chamberlain's 100 point game didn't actually happen. I mean, he was 28/32 from the free throw line that night, and it was played in Hersey, PA in front of a very small crowd. No video of the game, and no radio exists. Score keeper fudged the numbers to hype up the NBA. Down with Wilt, All Hail Kobe, single game scoring record holder.
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# ? Feb 18, 2016 17:53 |
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The allure of knowing ~*~secret information~*~ is so powerful it permeates all facets of our society.
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# ? Feb 18, 2016 20:48 |
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It's not (just) the thrill of secret knowledge. It's also the appeal of having a comprehensible way of understanding a complicated world. It makes me think of this conversation. Jez: "Negative orgones are the source of all the problems in the world" Mark: "And you believe that?" Jez: "Well, how do you explain all the problems in the world?" Mark: "Well.. I mean couldn't... there are just so many historical and economic factors that..." Jez: "Exactly, you haven't got a clue."
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# ? Feb 18, 2016 21:12 |
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computer parts posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/2qjohv/what_did_your_parents_show_you_to_do_that_you/cn6pn30?context=3 Bielefeld was just a test run.
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# ? Feb 18, 2016 21:36 |
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Every generation needs to project onto the younger crowds or at least criticize them into being strong. Every so often kids come along that shut the booing masses down and reminds us that that the newer generation is more informed than we are. Adam is 8 years old and excited to share his newest crystal grid with the internet. He debuts a configuration he dubs a ‘web grid’ designed to transform dark energies into light. It’s crucial to remember that this came along because of his first hand experiences with a well developed collection of the metaphysical stones. Adam spent ten minutes building this network of Amethyst, Apophyllite, Celestial Smoky Quartz, Clear Quartz points, several Lemurian Seed Crystals, and Vogels. Watching this reminds me of my little brother explaining the theoretical and non moving Rube Goldberg devices he would fashion out of legos. The confidence in both of their intuitive reasonings is well placed and lovely to see unfold. There is some hiccups in the explanation but I’d venture to ask you doesn’t get lost talking about existential energies or consciousness. He is very specific about the alignment, even getting into the best charging, focusing and energy unleash points. He literally holds the crystals to his ear to figure out where they go within the network. His confidence and willingness to look into the unseen is remarkable for anyone but especially an 8 year old. He also advertises for custom crystal set ups and consultations. I’d love to see his reasoning for certain configurations if all he is listening to is the stones.
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# ? Feb 18, 2016 21:45 |
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In my day you had to jack off to power your crystals. Took forever if you were by yourself.
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Jack Gladney posted:In my day you had to jack off to power your crystals. Took forever if you were by yourself. Nowadays with these modern crystals you barely even need a tug or two to power them, much less cumming all over your belly button and watching the pearly white beads slowly pool together as you intently focus your energies. Kids these days will never appreciate the work that used to go into building 100-matrix orgone crystal fields around your house to protect against radio waves
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corn in the bible posted:Every generation needs to project onto the younger crowds or at least criticize them into being strong. Every so often kids come along that shut the booing masses down and reminds us that that the newer generation is more informed than we are. Adam is 8 years old and excited to share his newest crystal grid with the internet. He debuts a configuration he dubs a ‘web grid’ designed to transform dark energies into light. I don't know what would be better, a kid who has discovered adults are dumb enough to pay him to pretend he is a wizard, or a kid who has no idea the adults aren't playing pretend too. The other possibility, too sad to think about.
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How do you guys keep your fingers from growing too long due to your crystals? It's really hard to find velvet gloves that fit
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