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Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009

Recoome posted:

Also btw I think the lockout laws suck but not acknowledging that we have a bad drinking culture is just dumb

everyone should be ignoring thatfatkid anyway

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The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do
They have an app now, I am posting from a gutter

ColtMcAsskick
Nov 7, 2010
Here's a hot investment tip: Be a big property developer because for some reason all these nightclubs are closing around Sydney leaving you poised to by land on the cheap and knock up apartment blocks. Or own a casino. Either is fine.

Magog
Jan 9, 2010

Mein alkohol :stare:

Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009

That'll show those nightclub chadbros :smug:

Vindicator
Jul 23, 2007

Jonah Galtberg posted:

I realise this may come as a shock to many goons but not everyone wants to be tucked up behind the computer every night

it's pretty funny to see all these posts smugly deriding the selfish desire of many adults to go out and drink after the sun has passed below the horizon

You know, if it was just going out and drinking, you might have a point, but there is a level of aggression and entitlement in a significant minority of our populace that often leads to some utterly barbaric behaviour going down as a consequence of feeding alcohol in great volumes to people who cannot control themselves when pissed up.

I'm biased, I'll admit. I work front of house in a business that makes a lot of money on selling alcohol to patrons. The vast majority of those patrons are fine. Then there are the obnoxious loud ones, which are fine if a little tiresome. Then there are the obnoxious loud ones who are aggressive and hostile, and while I recognize that they aren't a majority and that observation bias causes me to recognize incidents of hostility or abuse from patrons moreso than the completely uneventful interactions with so many, it is a factor that grates on me more and more over time.

I don't know what it's like in other countries; no doubt there's alcohol abuse and no doubt that abuse becomes violent. But it feels pretty poo poo here, as someone who's on the receiving end of it more often than most.

Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope

Vindicator posted:



I don't know what it's like in other countries; no doubt there's alcohol abuse and no doubt that abuse becomes violent.

Actually someone did a study that shows some countries like in Scandinavia have a high incidence of drinking but low violence. According to the study, there's no causal link between alcohol and violence. The study was commissioned by an alcohol corporation

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS
Having got shitfaced in a number of European countries, I did get the feeling that drunk continental Europeans are a lot more chill than drunk Australians.

My guess is that we have an aggressive streak in our culture somewhere and when some people get drunk it bubbles to the surface very easily, so we get violent drunk dickheads as a result.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

gay picnic defence posted:

My guess is that we have an aggressive streak in our culture somewhere and when some people get drunk it bubbles to the surface very easily, so we get violent drunk dickheads as a result.

We come from the British, the most violent culture in history

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop
Anecdote != Data but,

I worked in nightclubs in Europe. The biggest problem drinkers were not: The English (They came in 2nd), The Scots, The Germans, The Italians, The Danes, The Australians (4th or so but a very small sample.) The Swedes (3rd) or the Norwegians. It was the Finns. They definitely have a "get pissed punch someone" thing going on especially in a mixed culture setting (It was usually the Swedes they wanted to punch).

I've been reading a book going by the name "Black Australians - A survey of native policy in Western Australia, 1829-1897" by Paul Hsluck. It was published in 1942. The similarities between current policy positions and those of the 1890s are both compelling and utterly depressing.

Pages 204 and 205 posted:

]there was little in the attitude of the invaders that was likely to modify the harshness of the meeting or to assist the native in the process of adapting himself to new conditions, while there was much to hinder that adaptation. ..No particular system was tried long enough or thoroughly enough to justify anyone in saying that such-and-such a method was good or bad.
Except for occasional flourishes under the inspiration of an exceptional individual, the white colonists took the way that was easiest for them. When the native did not respond immediately to their attempts to 'civilize' him those attempts ceased.

White man's burden shrugged off.

starkebn posted:

We come from the British, the most violent culture in history
lol

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Remember that we are all descendants of Mother Europe.

Look at what 'we' as a race have accomplished and this is what the 'contaminants', 'proponents of diversity and open borders' seek to destroy.
Coming from a South African, European background, I am proud and blessed.

Nationalism is rising, traitors get out of the way.
They serve the interests of the eternal nation destroyers.
Nationalists serve the people in their best interests and of their nation.

Enjoy

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
While many Australians feel connected and one with this land it's important to remember the thousands of years our DNA has been moulded and shaped by our ancestral homelands.
If Europe ever falls i would never feel the same again.
As European descendants we have the right to return to the homeland if we want to, every person deserves it for their own people.
So why are we being denied ours?

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

Because the British are a bunch of turncoats who abandoned the Commonwealth.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
A rather interesting poll being done today. Few thousand sample, how do you feel about a DD election,majority approve of Turnbull, disapprove LNP, disapprove gst, most don't care when election is held.

asio
Nov 29, 2008

"Also Sprach Arnold Jacobs: A Developmental Guide for Brass Wind Musicians" refers to the mullet as an important tool for professional cornet playing and box smashing black and blood

Recoome posted:

While many Australians feel connected and one with this land it's important to remember the thousands of years our DNA has been moulded and shaped by our ancestral homelands.
If Europe ever falls i would never feel the same again.
As European descendants we have the right to return to the homeland if we want to, every person deserves it for their own people.
So why are we being denied ours?

If you love it so much why don't you gently caress off back there,

We're full

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS
Peter Martin seems pretty certain there won't be a GST, what are the tories playing at with their constant talk of it if not to 'start a conversation' as a prelude to introducing one I wonder?

Au Revoir Shosanna
Feb 17, 2011

i support this government and/or service

gay picnic defence posted:

Peter Martin seems pretty certain there won't be a GST, what are the tories playing at with their constant talk of it if not to 'start a conversation' as a prelude to introducing one I wonder?

So they can slash health funding then blame it on the states / the general populace for not wanting a GST.

Redcordial
Nov 7, 2009

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

lol the country is fed up with your safe spaces and trigger warnings you useless special snowflakes, send the sjws to mexico
Premier Dan Andrews has done a good thing, and I approve.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

Redcordial posted:

Premier Dan Andrews has done a good thing, and I approve.


The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do
Woah

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

That's pretty awesome of Andrews. Can't see Baird doing the same thing, no matter how much he harps on about being a Christian blah blah

Elrond Hubbard
Mar 30, 2007

To ERH
*everyone applauds*
Anyone got any wisdom with regards to a good VPN for Australian use to hide my metadatas?

Used to use Private Internet Access but I got sick of paying monthly for my internet to be unusable.

MiniSune
Sep 16, 2003

Smart like Dodo!

Elrond Hubbard posted:

Anyone got any wisdom with regards to a good VPN for Australian use to hide my metadatas?

Used to use Private Internet Access but I got sick of paying monthly for my internet to be unusable.

I kill two birds with one stone and use VyprVPN that comes free with my giganews sub. There are better VPN's out there, but performance has been quite good for me the admittedly limited times I use it.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

Elrond Hubbard posted:

Anyone got any wisdom with regards to a good VPN for Australian use to hide my metadatas?

Used to use Private Internet Access but I got sick of paying monthly for my internet to be unusable.

I don't use any of these as I have my own servers setup that I use for VPN's in other countries but TorrentFreak does a pretty comprehensive list

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

Elrond Hubbard posted:

Anyone got any wisdom with regards to a good VPN for Australian use to hide my metadatas?

Used to use Private Internet Access but I got sick of paying monthly for my internet to be unusable.

I've had a good experience with Private Internet Access. If you get a years subscription it costs around 3.50 a month and it's extremely easy to use. You right click and pick where in the world you want to watch Netflix from.

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

Redcordial posted:

Premier Dan Andrews has done a good thing, and I approve.

Federal Labor should pay attention. This is how one lures voters away from the Greens.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Elrond Hubbard posted:

Anyone got any wisdom with regards to a good VPN for Australian use to hide my metadatas?

Used to use Private Internet Access but I got sick of paying monthly for my internet to be unusable.

Nice try ASIO.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

:vince:

Nice try being hip on social media ALP but Jeremy is loving vicious.

Ettin
Oct 2, 2010
Hello, Auspol! #auspol was talking about an XCOM 2 Auspol character pool so I thought I'd set it up. If XCOM is your thing, fill out this thing here and I'll add your character to AUSCOM. Tomorrow night I'll export and post the .bin file. :getin:

Ettin fucked around with this message at 12:58 on Feb 6, 2016

Skellybones
May 31, 2011




Fun Shoe

Anidav posted:


:vince:

Nice try being hip on social media ALP but Jeremy is loving vicious.

Look at the artifacts on those JAY PEGS

BCR
Jan 23, 2011

It's late so you're just gett this. Alcohol consumption has fallen in Australia since the 1970s. Drinking patterns have changed. Drinking companies get the bulk of their profits from about 20% of the drinking population and it this population that causes self harm and violence.

Solutions are banning alcohol advertising, better public transport.

Will drop the study's tomorrow

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
The question is - how do we fight toxic masculinity?


sneak up behind it and punch it in the base of its skull

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




BCR posted:

Solutions are banning alcohol advertising, better public transport.

Yes, but does it make self righteous people feel as good as banning drinking does? Important criteria.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008








From https://www.dfat.gov.au/about-us/corporate/freedom-of-information/Documents/dfat-foi-1510-F1291.pdf

I have since determined that the driver was from Saudi Arabia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euI3v2jpTlI

SadisTech
Jun 26, 2013

Clem.

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Fake. Luna park doesn't have a roller coaster. :colbert:

(The mouse one doesn't count.)

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Laserface posted:

Fake. Luna park doesn't have a roller coaster. :colbert:

(The mouse one doesn't count.)

The Melbourne Luna Park has a couple of rollercoasters.

Vladimir Poutine
Aug 13, 2012
:madmax:
My favourite Luna Park story is the one they built in Adelaide that couldn't get expansion approval from the Glenelg council so instead they just paid 1000 people to dismantle the entire theme park and move it to Sydney and then expand it there.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-02/deputy-coroner-wants-rock-fisherman-life-jacket-laws/6590418

quote:

Life jackets required for rock fishermen in bid to reduce deaths, NSW coroner says By Jayne Margetts Posted 2 Jul 2015, 4:48pm

The NSW deputy coroner is calling for laws to make life jackets compulsory for rock fishermen in an attempt to reduce the enormous "emotional and social" cost of their deaths. Thirty-five people have died while rock fishing in NSW since 2012, with around seven deaths per year. Deputy coroner Carmel Forbes has been investigating eight deaths between 2012 and 2015. "The emotional and social cost of these deaths to family, friends and the community is enormous," she said.
Rescue operations are "dangerous, resource intensive and normally undertaken in treacherous conditions".

In 2011, rock fishing deaths cost the community, on average, between $450,000 and $600,000 per incident. The deputy coroner noted that the current measures in place to protect rock fishermen have not seen any reduction in deaths. She said life jackets should be mandatory and that the cost of the proposed measure would be "far outweighed by the saving of lives and subsequent reduction of social and financial costs associated with the loss of lives in rock fishing". Ms Forbes said consideration should be given to a 12-month grace period, an education campaign and coupons or gift vouchers for free or subsidised life jackets.

She also recommended a review of current signage warning of the dangers of rock fishing and the use of "shock signage indicating the number of deaths associated with rock fishing". Recreational Fishing Alliance president Malcolm Poole said rock fishermen are not reluctant to wear life jackets, but the designs are not suitable for the sport. "Life jackets are currently designed to an Australian standard for boating," he said. "What we're looking for is an appropriate life jacket designed to the Australian standard for rock fishers. "You have to understand that rock fishers are a mobile person on a rock platform, they move around a fair bit."

However, Surf Life Saving New South Wales lifesaving manager Andy Kent said introducing new laws would compel life jacket manufacturers to improve their products. "Manufacturers may start, or should start, making life jackets which are actually suitable for the actual cause of rock fishing," he said.

The article is old but it is once again current in the news in NSW.

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Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Why does it cost the community anything at all?

EDIT: lol finally get a custom title.

Laserface fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Feb 7, 2016

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