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rabidsquid posted:Sorry my dude, I guess you are only interested in a different type where you argue with Sigma-X about something. I haven't followed the thread too long but that seems to rank slightly above reading McMagic posts in terms of spending time productively.
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checkplease posted:Probably good to let a few more tournaments happen before declaring modern broken. I am still salty that they have systematically been removing combo from Modern so I am probably more prone to feeling doom and gloom about it.
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That's fair. I feel they need to bring back the combos also. So the mtgo pro tour gauntlet. Is that just going to be the top 8 decks, cause if so... yeah, not much variety.
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LSV wrote a deck tech: http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/teamcfb-deck-tech-modern-eldrazi/
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I went 7-2 for 29th place out of 400. Will type stuff up tomorrow.
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Feb 7, 2016 04:59
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checkplease posted:Guess those numbers fit the theme of oath at least, just like last year's had several abzan deck fitting the theme of khans (though yeah that's just them renaming decks). UG Madness making a comeback, you heard it here first.
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Feb 7, 2016 05:04
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checkplease posted:Probably good to let a few more tournaments happen before declaring modern broken. People keep saying this but nobody is explaining what the effective hate is other than buying cards to play Lantern Prison.
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Feb 7, 2016 05:06
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Just play Bogles and go underneath them by Playing Well and Getting Rewarded with perfect 7s and top decks
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Feb 7, 2016 05:08
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Angry Grimace posted:People keep saying this but nobody is explaining what the effective hate is other than buying cards to play Lantern Prison. e: Living End also seems good, although you'll need to pack Ingot Chewers e2: oh right relics, lol
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Feb 7, 2016 05:14
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Eye is great, because it is basically my favorite card ever (Heartless Summoning), in land form, without drawback, and with a repeated tutor attached.
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Feb 7, 2016 05:15
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I normally play the Eldrazi deck with colors but I've found there's a few variants I'm toying with: All Colorless (PT Version) - this is a superfast version with very little interactivity. Vulnerable to land/hand disruption & board wipes. Colorless/Black/White - this version is processor-heavy, running RIPs main, Blight Herders, Oblivion Sowers, etc. "Big Mana" version that's most comparable to Tron. Vulnerable to land/hand disruption, low-to-the-ground aggro decks (elves, merfolk, infect, affinity) Colorless/Black - Runs IoK, Duress, targeted removal, with the midrange eldrazi. This version is like Jund, but better. Vulnerable to aggro decks (elves, merfolk, affinity), but can do quite a bit more without the 2-mana lands. I've been testing all 3 against the gauntlet of typical decks (but not against the stuff showing up this weekend). The versions that run colors really want to be running board wipes to circumvent the aggro strats - much akin to Tron. The maindeck Chalices are a super metagame-y call that leaves you with some dead cards provided the game goes longer (SSG and Chalice on turns 4+ aren't going to win you the game), basically only good in your opener. Clearly the deck is good, but based largely on the fact not a lot of people were ready for it this weekend. The UR version in particular came out of nowhere so I'm really interested in seeing how the Mono-C and UR Versions play against each other.
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Feb 7, 2016 05:31
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rabidsquid posted:Just play Bogles and go underneath them by Playing Well and Getting Rewarded with perfect 7s and top decks Until Bogles starts playing ways to get around Chalice on 1, its pretty screwed. Wizards print Tribute to the Wild in Standard, please.
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Feb 7, 2016 05:34
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I could see SSG eating a ban, if anything.
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Feb 7, 2016 05:36
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Balon posted:I could see SSG eating a ban, if anything. It should have been banned already.
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Feb 7, 2016 05:39
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So T2 4/4 Thought-Knot is bad, but T1 thoughtsieze into t2 3/4 Goyf is Cool and Good.
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Feb 7, 2016 05:42
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Archenteron posted:So T2 4/4 Thought-Knot is bad, but T1 thoughtsieze into t2 3/4 Goyf is Cool and Good. It's a little better as 1 card than 2, yes.
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Feb 7, 2016 05:46
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Archenteron posted:So T2 4/4 Thought-Knot is bad, but T1 thoughtsieze into t2 3/4 Goyf is Cool and Good. Hey guys why is this 2 card combo fair but the one card combo that does the same thing not?
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Feb 7, 2016 05:49
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Hopefully this is a wake up call to the Magic community to play the best format, Pauper
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Balon posted:I could see SSG eating a ban, if anything. Not remotely. It can be used as part of a T2 Reality Smasher, but there are two other cards involved that are far more degenerate.
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Feb 7, 2016 05:51
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suicidesteve posted:Hey guys why is this 2 card combo fair but the one card combo that does the same thing not? It's more like a 3-card combo, though. You require TWO SPECIFIC LANDS and a Creature. Thoughtsieze into Goyf is basically 2 cards and any land to get - the thing that makes it more fair is that it costs between 2 and 8 life for Jund to pull of. Chamale posted:Not remotely. It can be used as part of a T2 Reality Smasher, but there are two other cards involved that are far more degenerate. More based on the enabling of Chalice for 1 on turn 1 before the other player gets to do anything.
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Feb 7, 2016 05:51
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AgentSythe posted:Hopefully this is a wake up call to the Magic community to play the best format, Pauper Nobody listens when I say this.
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Feb 7, 2016 05:51
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AgentSythe posted:Hopefully this is a wake up call to the Magic community to play the best format, Pauper Nah ensaring bridge burn decks with all prowess creature and land hate will be the new thing.
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Feb 7, 2016 05:54
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Chamale posted:Not remotely. It can be used as part of a T2 Reality Smasher, but there are two other cards involved that are far more degenerate.
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Feb 7, 2016 05:58
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Errant Gin Monks posted:Nah ensaring bridge burn decks with all prowess creature and land hate will be the new thing. i would accept the triumphant return of Blink Riders
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Feb 7, 2016 06:06
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Chamale posted:Eye of Ugin is so busted that I wonder if the Eldrazi decks should consider running Serum Powder, like the Bazaar of Baghdad decks in Vintage. No because unlike bazaar decks (which aside from uba mask shops is only dredge afaik) you're likely to be -1 in a deck that cares about resources in hand after your "free" mulligan not to mention starting with extra cards exiled is awful for the mirror.
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Feb 7, 2016 06:09
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Balon posted:More based on the enabling of Chalice for 1 on turn 1 before the other player gets to do anything. Angry Grimace posted:If Chrome Mox is bannable I don't get why SSG is legal.
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Feb 7, 2016 06:11
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Mikujin posted:This has been possible in Modern since Chalice started existing and it hasn't been an issue until now. Chrome Mox is banned in modern because it allows for plays like this.
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Feb 7, 2016 06:19
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"Through all the terrors we face, I hold on to the memory of the world before the Eldrazi came. I'd like to see that world again." -Affa Protector, Oath of the Gatewatch (2016)
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Instead of emergency bans, Wizards should do emergency new cards  Fire of the Gatewatch WUGR Sorcery Each player who controls an Eldrazi permanent or a land named Eye of Ugin loses the game.
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Feb 7, 2016 06:25
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Balon posted:Chrome Mox is banned in modern because it allows for plays like this. If you're referencing the Eldrazi nonsense then carry on.
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It's pretty busted in a field where Burn, Affinity and Infect are the most played decks.
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I think people are understating how good Eldrazi was this tournament. There were only 32 people who showed up with Eldrazi. Six made top 8, and another 7 made top 23 according to SaffronOlive looking at the standings. That's 13 of the top 23 coming from only 32 entries, and some of those guys were probably playing the crappy midrange version of the deck.
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whateverfor posted:I think people are understating how good Eldrazi was this tournament. There were only 32 people who showed up with Eldrazi. Six made top 8, and another 7 made top 23 according to SaffronOlive looking at the standings. I'm curious what happens if you adjust for draft. I know that the UR eldrazi deck apparently managed a 95% winrate D1, and I think the CFB colorless version got like 75% or something also probably worth adjusting for the eldrazi vs eldrazi matches
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AgentSythe posted:Hopefully this is a wake up call to the Magic community to play the best format, Pauper Pauper is great and Affinity can actually be really neato where you might get killed by Fling-Atog which always tickles me for some reason
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suicidesteve posted:Nobody listens when I say this. Gotta admit, pauper is pretty fun. Are there any eldrazi papuper decks with all the new stuff? Guess no fast mana, but maybe something with scions or all the colorless stuff?
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Zoness posted:(which aside from uba mask shops is only dredge afaik) There is also, of course, Rat Squeeze
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checkplease posted:Gotta admit, pauper is pretty fun. Are there any eldrazi papuper decks with all the new stuff? Guess no fast mana, but maybe something with scions or all the colorless stuff? Ulamog's Crusher used to be one of the two kill conditions in blue red Post
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I find it interesting that relatively few people were on the Eldrazi deck. We act as if it was always obviously going to be overpowered now but clearly a lot of pros failed to identify it as a factor.
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Eh predictions are almost totally useless anyway. bizmarkiedesade and I stumbled on the mono blue devotion list that tore up that PT and both wrote it off rear end "probably dumb." I will never forget making up a list very very close to that 75 and deciding it was too cute, because it shows how hard this stuff is. It takes entire pro teams countless hours of testing against other meta decks.
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