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Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Insert name here posted:

Yeah, I was ok with the T3 looks in EU/EW (especially after they added the extra variations in the DLC) but I really don't like the look of the T3 weapons and armour in this one. I think the WAR suit looks alright but the Warden I don't like and the plasma weapons especially look terrible. I didn't mind plated armour's look but I didn't like how there was no customization options for the torso with it. :mad: Someone who knows what they're doing hurry up and make a mod that just unlocks all cosmetic armour options for all the armours thanks.

Also someone should apply a red filter to the tier 3 weapon's beams.

Its lasers turn to be the ultimate tech :colbert:

Seriously though teal is loving awful.

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The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
so is there any way to strip down ant farm buildings? Because I built one too many power conduits and don't have enough room for everything else I need

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Dr. VooDoo posted:

Having fun recreating 90's FPS heroes as soldiers for me to use in my pool but man they do not have a good preacher style hat so I can't make my favorite, Caleb from Blood :sigh:

I need a beret and a good young guy face. MGS5 Ocelot is pretty easy to do (aside from needing a duster) but MGS3 would be better for a gunslinger.

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.
:ohdear:

The Iron Rose posted:

so is there any way to strip down ant farm buildings? Because I built one too many power conduits and don't have enough room for everything else I need
I think you can do it on the one screen that shows your rooms, the one that comes up when you click an empty one. Not too sure how else to access it, probably through the engineering tab? Anyone I recall there being a big red X next to each room you could click on.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

loving hell, chrysalids in this one have ARMOR?

God drat it. I'm glad my specialist got Serial from the AWC, because at least that let her shoot down three of them after they got weakened by a grenade.

Scoss
Aug 17, 2015
Do you still get lessened rewards for destroying alien ships too badly, or can I go hog wild with grenades and not worry?

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things
I wish I got good skills from the AWC.

Both Rangers got the 50% chance to trigger a second overwatch if the first hits.

Grenadier 1 (explosive spec) got Covering fire. Grenadier 2 got Lightning reflexes.

Specialist got Hail of Bullets.

Sharpshooter got something that doesn't work with pistols.

No one got anything really cool or gamechanging. And I'm sad Psi Ops don't get the extra perk.

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender

Scoss posted:

Do you still get lessened rewards for destroying alien ships too badly, or can I go hog wild with grenades and not worry?

On raid the train missions/etc, just dont blow up glowing crates.

BURN THE REST DOWN.

Turrets on trains loving suck hardcore because you cant blow up the floor below them with grenades for an instant kill.

cerious
Aug 18, 2010

:dukedog:
I'm sure I'm at least 100 pages late to the party but stun lancers man haha cool stuff! Advent are pretty dope at breeding olympic loving sprinters.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



LibbyM posted:

Do Archons have a special extra evasion to overwatch shots or something? I haven't played this enough to have a good sample size yet obviously, but I'm pretty sure I've hit them out of my conceal ambushes like 1 in every 20 shots, but I have no problem hitting them in actual combat.

From what I can tell, you get one easy hit on them and then they get that "battle rage" buff that apparently gives them a hefty amount of dodge. So now three out of every four hits that makes it past their defense is a grazing hit.

DMW45
Oct 29, 2011

Come into my parlor~
Said the spider to the fly~
Does the overdrive serum disappear from your inventory after use, even after the battle?

The description mentions something about it, and I don't want to bother with it if it's something I'll need to constantly remake.

DMW45
Oct 29, 2011

Come into my parlor~
Said the spider to the fly~

cerious posted:

I'm sure I'm at least 100 pages late to the party but stun lancers man haha cool stuff! Advent are pretty dope at breeding olympic loving sprinters.

Funny thing about Stun Lancers. I mind controlled one in a recent mission--their version of Slash only has a 50% hit rate.

Edit: Whoops. Quote is not edit.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Alkydere posted:

From what I can tell, you get one easy hit on them and then they get that "battle rage" buff that apparently gives them a hefty amount of dodge. So now three out of every four hits that makes it past their defense is a grazing hit.

Battle Rage just gives them an extra action point to use in combat, which just lets them use two moves before attacking.

They're weird because they normally can't melee at the end of a dash, and need the buff to actually let them do something similar. You can test it all when you mind control one.

nessin
Feb 7, 2010

Zore posted:

I wish I got good skills from the AWC.

Both Rangers got the 50% chance to trigger a second overwatch if the first hits.

Grenadier 1 (explosive spec) got Covering fire. Grenadier 2 got Lightning reflexes.

Specialist got Hail of Bullets.

Sharpshooter got something that doesn't work with pistols.

No one got anything really cool or gamechanging. And I'm sad Psi Ops don't get the extra perk.

Second overwatch shot for a Ranger can pay dividends in an overwatch trap around corners. Also some potential there to try a Rifle instead of Shotgun.

A grenadier with the overwatch no-proc ability would be great as an alternative to moving into position to break overwatch with a well placed grenade, especially before you get all the range upgrades.

Specialist with Hail seems pretty awesome. Sure it won't do as much damage as it would for the Grenadier and you lose out on the shred synergy but the uses are still plenty and can do good things to kill several units at once or tear down multiple non-armored enemies.

Vodos
Jul 17, 2009

And how do we do that? We hurt a lot of people...

Someone got groinjacked!

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
actually forreal after that one advent officer what can you even do with skulljacking because I equipped it on my sniper and don't even have the option to skulljack anyone. Do I have to get that skullmining upgrade? What's the difference?

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Vodos posted:

Someone got groinjacked!



Man, you made him drop his coffee too!

First time I saw that visual bug I winced so hard though.

The Iron Rose posted:

actually forreal after that one advent officer what can you even do with skulljacking because I equipped it on my sniper and don't even have the option to skulljack anyone. Do I have to get that skullmining upgrade? What's the difference?

Yup, you need to get the Skullmine upgrade for it to be of any use after the storyline required jack. The upgrade also makes it grant Specialists +25 hack strength.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

nessin posted:

Second overwatch shot for a Ranger can pay dividends in an overwatch trap around corners. Also some potential there to try a Rifle instead of Shotgun.

A grenadier with the overwatch no-proc ability would be great as an alternative to moving into position to break overwatch with a well placed grenade, especially before you get all the range upgrades.

Specialist with Hail seems pretty awesome. Sure it won't do as much damage as it would for the Grenadier and you lose out on the shred synergy but the uses are still plenty and can do good things to kill several units at once or tear down multiple non-armored enemies.

Nah, the Grenadier actually got no-poo poo Lightning Reflexes from EW's Assault tree with triggering all overwatch and automatically dodging one overwatch per turn.

And I think I mistyped the Specialist one, they got the shot that hits 100% of the time but costs 3 ammo which is... rarely useful with no riders like Shred or Holo-targetting.

Admittedly the overwatching from my Rangers has been the most useful, but not really gamechanging in any way. Not like say getting RnG on a Grenadier, or Serial on a non-Sharpshooter.

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

Zore posted:

Nah, the Grenadier actually got no-poo poo Lightning Reflexes from EW's Assault tree with triggering all overwatch and automatically dodging one overwatch per turn.

And I think I mistyped the Specialist one, they got the shot that hits 100% of the time but costs 3 ammo which is... rarely useful with no riders like Shred or Holo-targetting.

Admittedly the overwatching from my Rangers has been the most useful, but not really gamechanging in any way. Not like say getting RnG on a Grenadier, or Serial on a non-Sharpshooter.

I dunno, having the ability to, in a pinch, have a Specialist absolutely positively shoot that one motherfucker sounds pretty handy, even without any riders. It's like a bigger, beefier Combat Protocol, sorta. Also not a bad way to break Overwatch on that one rear end in a top hat you absolutely need to skirt by. Situational, but not wholly useless.

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



UFOs don't spawn until you do the Black Site mission so I don't think you have to face an Avenger defence until you do. Since I already controlled all the story mission locations beforehand and the Black Site gave me a convenient lone Codex to Skulljack, I feel pretty confident about letting it sit until the end

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters
As much as I love my Revolver Ocelot wannabe Sharpshooter I can't help but feel like it would have been more efficient overall to double up on Grenadiers and Specialists for maximum guaranteed damage early game and saved myself all the supplies I spent upgrading pistols and sniper rifles. And the research time.

VextheGrey
Dec 3, 2000

"No, Sasquatch! NOOOOO!!"
Am I just really unlucky with whatever the red missions are that spawn every month? It's always either 1-2 pips of avatar, or reduce the next facility construction by 2+ weeks. Avatar is going up so constantly I can't even spend time gathering supplies. Reading about people maxing tech is so confusing to me, unless I'm constantly expanding and trying to take out facilities it snowballs, and I'm probably going to lose regardless.

Vodos
Jul 17, 2009

And how do we do that? We hurt a lot of people...

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

UFOs don't spawn until you do the Black Site mission so I don't think you have to face an Avenger defence until you do. Since I already controlled all the story mission locations beforehand and the Black Site gave me a convenient lone Codex to Skulljack, I feel pretty confident about letting it sit until the end

I think I'd rather face an avenger defense with basic mechs as best unit than one with Andromedons and Codices and poo poo.

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues
Beat the Veteran campaign after spending 26 hours on this game, and Tony Abbott died on the final mission helping to stop the boats.

I feel like I wanna wait a bit for them to fix up a few things before I put my skull back into it.

DontMindMe
Dec 3, 2010

What could possibly go wrong?
RIP Hacked robot. Held off the enemy while everyone retreated during UFO defense.

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


What's the verdict goons? Should one buy this game?

Porpoise With A Purpose
Feb 28, 2006

What the hell is the range on the snake grab? I've been grabbed from 20+ spaces away multiple times.

victrix
Oct 30, 2007


Is there some bug that stops you from using Overwatch? I keep running into situations where it won't let me use it. Start of turn, full actions, full ammo, no disabilities, overwatch icon lit up, can't overwatch.

Hammerstein
May 6, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 2 hours!

The Iron Rose posted:

Got two mods up so far!


Any Class Any Weapon, which does exactly what it says on the tin. Any class can equip any weapon, including rookies. Animations all work fine too!
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=617733366


No Squadsight penalties, which eliminates the aim and crit penalties from squadsight. This is already a super mobile game, and honestly sharpshooters need a little bit of a buff as is.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=617712294

Do I have to edit other lines or is it enough to change these values in the GameCore.ini ?

SQUADSIGHT_CRIT_MOD=-5 (instead of -10)
SQUADSIGHT_DISTANCE_MOD=-1 (instead of -2) - I guess this is the penalty per squadsight tile....

Since I would rather play with half the penalty instead of eliminating it completely.

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
yooooo that tftd stinger at the end

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

victrix posted:

Is there some bug that stops you from using Overwatch? I keep running into situations where it won't let me use it. Start of turn, full actions, full ammo, no disabilities, overwatch icon lit up, can't overwatch.

yeah, save and reload fixes it.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things
Anyone know where to find full perk lists? I'm trying to figure out everything the AWC can give you, and if there are any more unique holdovers from EW like Lightning Reflexes. I'd kill for Opportunist, or Bullet Swarm.

I tried digging in the ini files and had no luck.

victrix
Oct 30, 2007


Are you loving kidding me? Dude behind heavy cover, enemies at long range, no problem, they both hit and kill. No surprise there, that's xcom after all.

Resulting panic spiral, one of my guys breaks cover and runs. My other guy on overwatch loving shoots him. Are you making GBS threads me? Not a panicked soldier, just a dude on overwatch. Come the gently caress on.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Tab8715 posted:

What's the verdict goons? Should one buy this game?

The biggest change from EU/EW is that there lots of missions are on a timer of some sort. Other than that it's basically what you'd expect from a sequel.

I really like it.

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.
:ohdear:

Pomp posted:

yeah, save and reload fixes it.
Another thing you can do to fix it is to hit another ability (like fire weapon), then clicking on Overwatch.

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Tab8715 posted:

What's the verdict goons? Should one buy this game?

Did you like X-Com EU/EW? You will like this more.

Did you not like X-Com EU/EW? You're a horrible person.

Roobanguy
May 31, 2011

The Iron Rose posted:

Any Class Any Weapon, which does exactly what it says on the tin. Any class can equip any weapon, including rookies. Animations all work fine too!
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=617733366

so how does this work with psionics? are they still able to use their abilities with a pistol equipped?

ParanoidInc
Apr 27, 2013

You dun scuffed me for the last time you no-good Zayn boy!
Fun Shoe

Pomp posted:

yooooo that tftd stinger at the end

wait WHAT

I haven't reached the ending yet but TFTD is one of my favorite games ever, what exactly was the stinger? hearing that jake solomon hated TFTD made me think they would never go that way

Random Asshole
Nov 8, 2010

Welp, just finished up a stealth base destruction mission that was pretty fun. I got 80% the way there without encountering any enemies and just decided to see how far I could push it. At one point a Muton pack walked right up to the square next to them, but didn't spot them because they were cowering behind a waist-high concrete barrier. Then the Mutons just decided to hang out there, for like five turns. Thanks to their extreme obliviousness, not a single shot was fired by either team, leaving more then half the fields on the mission screen blank. Fun times.

^^Edit: The stinger at the end shows a bunch of Ethereal statues at the bottom of the ocean (where the final mission takes place), then zooms into a crack in the ocean floor which is glowing purple. The good and fun interpretation is TFTD is up next, the bad and predictable interpretation is that the Ethereal's souls are still around and they're going to come back to menace humanity yet again, like the end of a bad movie where the last shot is of the villain having survived. Which interpretation do YOU think is correct? Hint: As much as I would love it, I'm pretty sure it's not the good one.

Random Asshole fucked around with this message at 10:07 on Feb 7, 2016

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victrix
Oct 30, 2007


Is there any way to locate downed soldiers? I'd like to carry their bodies out but uh... this battlefield is a mess and I can't tell where they are.

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