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https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200411/nation-wimpsquote:Parental hovering is why so many teenagers are so ironic, he notes. It's a kind of detachment, "a way of hiding in plain sight. They just don't want to be exposed to any more scrutiny." Millennials and beyond suffer from a psychological detachment from reality.
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Nolgthorn posted:https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200411/nation-wimps Millennials psychologically damaged by generation of controlling overbearing parents, coping
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Feb 7, 2016 21:29
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naem posted:Millennials psychologically damaged by generation of controlling overbearing parents who were themselves damaged by distant, unhappy parents who got married too young and would rather have a vodka tonic than do poo poo with their kids
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Feb 7, 2016 21:31
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ChipNDip posted:Milennials could not handle the politically incorrect jokes and constant ribbing that come with working on a factory floor. Good point. Especially anything aimed at "gender".
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Feb 7, 2016 21:34
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Horniest Manticore posted:who were themselves damaged by distant, unhappy parents who got married too young and would rather have a vodka tonic than do poo poo with their kids Gettin poo poo done is what we calledit
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Feb 7, 2016 21:34
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Nolgthorn posted:Gettin poo poo done is what we calledit "Now leave Daddy alone, the goddamn news is on." *stares at the TV and drinks for the next three hours, never uttering a word*
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Feb 7, 2016 21:39
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Horniest Manticore posted:who were themselves damaged by distant, unhappy parents who got married too young and would rather have a vodka tonic than do poo poo with their kids Who worked tirelessly long miserable hours to cut all corners and outsource all possible employment overseas to try desperately to afford the adjustable rate mortgage on their poorly built overblown McMansion that fully 1/3rd of them lost leaving children and grandchildren (and don't forget step children 50% divorce rate) with nothing Yes let me run right out and buy a house with that job I don't have
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Feb 7, 2016 21:46
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I'm conflicted, financially I can relate to the people being poo poo on ....but socially I join in on all the dumb trends that I never gave a poo poo about. The same people who did that awful racoon hair as teenagers in the emo trend are doing the same hipster poo poo in their adult years. Meanwhile I'm living at home only now getting meaningful employment with 55k in debt from school expenses in order to get said employment.
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Feb 7, 2016 21:52
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naem posted:Who worked tirelessly long miserable hours to cut all corners and outsource all possible employment overseas to try desperately to afford the adjustable rate mortgage on their poorly built overblown McMansion that fully 1/3rd of them lost leaving children and grandchildren (and don't forget step children 50% divorce rate) with nothing "Huuuuu-wahhhhhhhh, doing things in life is hard  Suppose i'll just back some more Kickstarters for Zombie Bacon Retro Cardgames until my dream job as a small batch IPA reviewer falls into my lap. I deserve my dream job because i was raised believing everyone gets to always win or otherwise it isn't fair"
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Feb 7, 2016 21:55
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yea millenials are out of touch with reality *goes on to repeat the same head in sand bullshit from TV that everyone else wised up to ten years ago*
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Houle posted:I'm conflicted, financially I can relate to the people being poo poo on ....but socially I join in on all the dumb trends that I never gave a poo poo about. The same people who did that awful racoon hair as teenagers in the emo trend are doing the same hipster poo poo in their adult years. Meanwhile I'm living at home only now getting meaningful employment with 55k in debt from school expenses in order to get said employment. Usually advertising for "cool young people hair/music etc culture" is followed by "young adult advertising buy a car house marriage real job haha" and it's one steady step after another in progression, instead it's all a jumble with half the population left behind Advertisers and their client corporations actually get mad like "why aren't you going people marching in lockstep forward like baby boomers here look, shiney, buy it rear end in a top hat I have condo payments" Meanwhile young people are watching bemusedly, commenting on the irony of it all to each other on their phones (darn them)
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Feb 7, 2016 21:58
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spudsbuckley posted:..was raised believing everyone gets to always win or otherwise it isn't fair" Raised to believe this by the same parents whose generation ruined the middle class job market to buy houses they couldn't afford which caused the housing bubble from which we are all still recovering in a big double EFF UUU the young are genuinely hurt by yes
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Feb 7, 2016 22:01
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naem posted:Raised to believe this by the same parents whose generation ruined the middle class job market to buy houses they couldn't afford which caused the housing bubble from which we are all still recovering in a big double EFF UUU the young are genuinely hurt by yes Plenty of middle class jobs/manufacturing jobs/trades in the country that i live in and they are filled by people from other countries because our own younger people won't do them because 30-35k is not enough for them to lower themselves to work with their hands.
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Feb 7, 2016 22:06
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jesus christ, these lazy Poverty Rate of All Persons 2000-2011  thanks obama entitled Poverty Rate of All Persons by Age 2000-2011  raised with such a stable family Child Poverty by Family Structure 2000-2011  are so ungrateful and lazy, god drat kids fault thinking they should get things...
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EugeneJ posted:Playboy just relaunched as a non-nude magazine, and is engineered towards Millennials. Where's the loving rabbit.
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Feb 7, 2016 22:07
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OMFG FURRY posted:jesus christ, these lazy BOOT STRAPS
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OMFG FURRY posted:jesus christ, these lazy So it really is the single mothers' fault.
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i wouldn't mind a manufacturing job right out of college. most poo poo is automated now so how hard can pressing buttons and making poo poo not gently caress up be?
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Feb 7, 2016 22:20
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* Unless we are given enough money for free to get ourselves out of poverty it isn't fair This is what giving a ribbon to everyone did. In my day there were kids who were better at things than other kids. Some kids were great at math and were recognised for it, other kids were good at sports. Some were terrible at everything and everyone noticed and they were bullied into getting good by their peers. This extended into adulthood. Now adulthood seems to be living at home with your parents and waiting for the economy to "recover". Blaming some non-existent group of people for oppressing them. Possibly going to college where being exposed to contrary opinions is completely shunned. Safe spaces are set-up, and it's ok to yell at faculty members. It's all because of oppression, you seee. If these adults weren't being oppressed they'd have everything and be functional contributing members of society. They'd have a house and a car and a good job and they'd excel at it.
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Nolgthorn posted:* Unless we are given enough money for free to get ourselves out of poverty it isn't fair source your quotes man
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I'm not sure where you live where being bullied made a person better, or the cause of that bullying wasn't for anything other than how they looked or who they associated with or what they were good at being a source of mockery because it wasn't sports. Not to mention the person bullying committing suicide or shooting up a school doesn't really foster the best in people as they spend their adult years treating PTSD off and on pending on which coverage they qualify for...
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Feb 7, 2016 22:25
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Nolgthorn posted:In my day
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House payments are often cheaper than rent, like they call it "first-time homebuying" for a reason, nobody is expecting people to buy McMansions at 18 years old. Around here, you can get an otherwise serviceable but very dated/needing reno house for like $50k AND it's centrally-located. Don't really buy the whole argument that there are crippling extenuating circumstances keeping a majority of people at home beyond just being lazy and preferring an easy, comfortable life with more spending money. Unless it really is just a bunch of Buzzfeed writers making problems on the west coast seem nationwide.
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Come on post-millennials it's up to you to take advantage of all the dropped balls in front of you.
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Nolgthorn posted:The housing market responds to how many people are living out of their parent's houses. If 50% of people 18-35 are still living at home with their mommy and daddy because they can't afford it, the cost of living adjusts to make it so that you can afford it. I loving wish. Where I live, demand's through the roof yet what kind of development do we see? High end stuff with great RoI that're unaffordable to the unwashed masses. We need piles of <$150k condos but all we're getting are 'luxury' developments.
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Nolgthorn posted:It's all because of oppression, you seee. If these adults weren't being oppressed they'd have everything and be functional contributing members of society. They'd have a house and a car and a good job and they'd excel at it. Why if they just got their hands dirty a little they could earn the big bucks in North Dakota on one of those oil fields that just all shut down! Or they could take their $100k of debt after working for "college degrees" their "parents told them to get" and go work in a factory and earn a cooooooool $30k (gross) (apparently), they can TOTALLY buy a house on that! Which is a good idea since the factory can shut down at a moments notice trapping them jobless and in debt with no work experience in their field and a house they can't leave heh "bitches"
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Feb 7, 2016 22:32
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Justin Tyme posted:House payments are often cheaper than rent, like they call it "first-time homebuying" for a reason, nobody is expecting people to buy McMansions at 18 years old. How is it lazy not wanting to buy a house and have extra spending money to cover costs such as medicare, travel expenses and the like? Also, I find for most people owning a house is a lot of extra space for nothing. Yeah you can rent it out but you are on the hook for repairs and upkeep.
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the average sale price of a house where I live is $457k, for a dumpy rear end townhouse it's 260K
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Justin Tyme posted:House payments are often cheaper than rent, like they call it "first-time homebuying" for a reason, nobody is expecting people to buy McMansions at 18 years old.
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Nolgthorn posted:* Unless we are given enough money for free to get ourselves out of poverty it isn't fair bullied kids perform worse when kept in contact with their bullies. they tend to develop chronic anxiety from that experience. i think your using bully as a type of nagging to perform and not the more sadistic type that most people are talking about, i dont think most people consider the former bullying.
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Nolgthorn posted:Come on post-millennials it's up to you to take advantage of all the dropped balls in front of you.
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Darn these kids and their "phones" which "put the sum total of human knowledge at their fingertips through the Internet" wanting to "network with peers and look for opportunities online" despite "those opportunities being few and far between" and "discussing this all with a depth of realism and perhaps comedic irony as a coping mechanism" instead of "blankly accepting the angry yammering of past generations whose experiences were much different"
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Feb 7, 2016 22:37
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If I want to own a house/condo in the next decade, either I need to become a programmer or my dad needs to die before drinking his retirement. His alcoholism's about $15k/year.
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Zzulu posted:wow your american country sounds like poo poo America right now is like Japan was 10 (or more?) years ago. Also to all the people calling "us young people" lazy, how loving old are you? Because you sound really old, like pushing 50 old.
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Nolgthorn posted:* Unless we are given enough money for free to get ourselves out of poverty it isn't fair hrmmery, yes, this is the problem, that stage of rebellion that all kids go through and express in different ways is totally at fault *eyes glaze over at mention of yuppies rebelling against hippie/beatnik parents who were rebelling against THE GREATEST GENERATION who were rebelling against the great depression... etc etc*
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Khorne posted:Lmao. A home for $50k. Homes are like $250k-$300k here and there aren't that many jobs. And rent is $700/mo or so for 2-3 bedrooms which is cheap.  midwest strokes, those houses on that Flip or Flop show where they sell them for 300,400,500 thousand dollars in Cali would be scraping 100,000-150,000 here
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Justin Tyme posted:
Ok so someone (with $70k in student loans) gets a job at the one employer in the area (factory) for $30k and buys a small terrible older house for $100k, trapping them in the area, now the employer moves to a right to work state to save money by paying less, the one employer is gone and the house is worth less than the mortgage in a jobless area now what They move back in with mom that's what. OR they could just STAY with mom and have more money in the bank (and not lose a [small, terrible] house) which a lot are doing
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