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AgentSythe posted:wizards, you know what you have to do. Make Propaganda modern legal and then it will really be UW Prison's time to shine ghostly prison already exists also what would make this deck better than lantern
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Elyv posted:ghostly prison already exists You can't currently run 8 ghostly prisons is the point.
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Feb 7, 2016 22:29
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Wasn't there supposed to be an announcement after the finals
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Entropic posted:You can't currently run 8 ghostly prisons is the point. I'm aware, but why would you play UW prison over lantern?
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http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-ptq-2016-02-07 it begins...
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I hope all the modern players in this thread enjoy their new kitchen table decks.
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We need more tournaments to adjust guys   This list ran Ancient Stirrings (which is stupid good sounding in Eldrazi) and 4 World Breakers, which would be hard for even Lantern to do much about. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Feb 7, 2016 |
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gently caress it, unban everything, see how Thought-Knot Seer does against Treasure Cruise or turn 2 Hypergenesis
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I mean, you can run 4 Ghost Quarters and Surgical Extraction, but that's kind of the definition of metagame warping.
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Who's gonna come up with the Legacy Eldrazi deck...
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TheKingofSprings posted:This was so, so much better than last year's it's not even funny. Last years top 8 had infect, so it was better imo.
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Angry Grimace posted:We need more tournaments to adjust guys This is the format Modern deserves
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-ptq-2016-02-07 UW Control at 3rd and 9th  U Tron at 16th 
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Elyv posted:I'm aware, but why would you play UW prison over lantern? because I already own the cards for UW Prison and I find White Sun's Zenith or heliod a more amusing win condition suicidesteve posted:FTFY and agreed. this is acceptable
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The best solution is to never have another Modern Pro Tour again. Modern is an awful format.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:RoE had littledrazi too, they just weren't colorless. Entropic posted:In the original Rise of the Eldrazi set, all the smaller creatures were colored, so Eye of Ugin and Eldrazi Temple didn't work for them. No discount on your Kozilek's Predator or Dread Drone. But now with Devoid and colorless costs, the small ones actually are colorless, and suddenly a bunch of tools that were meant for the big boys are unlocked for the creatures cheap enough to be scary. From a few pages back, but another big difference is that in the original ROE set, there were only a half-dozen of those smaller colored Eldrazi Drones, and they were all below-curve bodies that only existed to generate 0/1 Eldrazi Spawn tokens (or in one case to buff said tokens). In BFZ block, there's a million littledrazi and aside from the ingesters they're strong in a more generic modern design haymaker sense.
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Northjayhawk posted:The best solution is to never have another Modern Pro Tour again. Modern is an awful format. split format Pauper/Triple Innistrad draft imo
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C-Euro posted:UW Control at 3rd and 9th As it turns out, Wrath of God plays very well against Eldrazi
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Ancient Stirrings sounds loving ridiculous in Eldrazi too. It can validly fetch every card in the deck that isn't another Ancient Stirrings.
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mcmagic posted:Who's gonna come up with the Legacy Eldrazi deck... 4 Eldrazi Mimic 4 Endless One 4 Matter Reshaper 4 Reality Smasher 4 Oblivion Sower 2 Spellskite 4 Thought-Knot Seer 4 Dismember 4 Chalice of the Void 2 Ratchet Bomb 4 Ancient Tomb 4 Eldrazi Temple 4 Eye of Ugin 4 Wasteland 3 City of Traitors 3 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth 2 Wastes Seems alright. CFB list minus Guides, Blinkmoth Nexus, and Mutavault, with Oblivion Sower, Ancient Tomb, and City of Traitors instead.
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mehall posted:Presented without comment: The one cent common is now 4 cents! #mtgfinance at its worst! Edit: What are the odds that the 2 Reality Smashers and 2 Simian Spirit Guides I'm supposed to be getting from Puca Trade ever actually show up?
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TheKingofSprings posted:As it turns out, Wrath of God plays very well against Eldrazi
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It seems like if this had been a Standard Pro Tour, we would have had more or less the same choice between the previous stale pillars of the format or new Eldrazi decks enabled by OGW, only with the Eldrazi decks being slightly slower I guess? I think it's interesting how both of the most prominent dumb metagame trends recently (4 color standard and now Eldrazi modern) come down to the question of how degenerate you can make a manabase, just in different ways. You can say that Tron in Modern, and even Affinity (which probably wouldn't be nearly as good if it didn't have 20 mana sources that potentially contribute to the artifact count, with 8 of them being manlands to boot) are also part of this trend.
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JerryLee posted:It seems like if this had been a Standard Pro Tour, we would have had more or less the same choice between the previous stale pillars of the format or new Eldrazi decks enabled by OGW, only with the Eldrazi decks being slightly slower I guess? My guess people will arbitrarily get mad when the next PT has a similar looking deck (that is fair) because TKS and Reality Smasher are really good cards in a Standard where you aren't enabling 4 color goodstuff.
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Chamale posted:4 Eldrazi Mimic What's the sideboard? you can probably play 3-balls since everything is pretty expensive, even with the ugin discount maybe leyline of the void + helm of obedience taking up 8 slots? Actually, probably Thorn of Amethyst instead of threeball
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Angry Grimace posted:My guess people will arbitrarily get mad when the next PT has a similar looking deck (that is fair) because TKS and Reality Smasher are really good cards in a Standard where you aren't enabling 4 color goodstuff. There's also so many good colorless lands, like sea-gate wreckage and mirrorpool.
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TheKingofSprings posted:As it turns out, Wrath of God plays very well against Eldrazi I'm going to take the glass-half-full stance and say that without the threat of a turn 4 auto-loss in Twin, four mana sweepers become way more viable. That is a lot of Eldrazi decks though and part of it will eat a ban if the meta can't come up with ways to counter it.
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I dunno where I go with modern right now. I'd been playing BW Eldrazi online and assembled most of it in paper, beating the spike on the lands and key pieces and got stuff like Smasher, Seer and Reshaper on preorder for chump change. I don't know what it would cost to update the deck online now, but I do have to wonder about a ban, maybe I should stick to Affinity and my mardu brewing? I took a look on eBay earlier and got 3 Fulminator Mages (Fulminator Magi?) for about £20 each, that's good right? Seems good for an Eldrazi-heavy meta right now anyway, especially with fewer Relics being used allowing for recursion. I would have liked BW/Heartless Eldrazi to have had more of a change to shine. Any chance it's Mimic or Seer that catches the ban and those flavours could get a shot at a big-name event?
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mcmagic posted:Who's gonna come up with the Legacy Eldrazi deck... Way ahead of you : ) https://deckbox.org/sets/1325697 I think it's at least t1.5. It destroys miracles. Lots of experimentation yet to do. I'm honestly pretty pleased with how the PT turned out. A local won, the new cards got their 15 minutes of fame, people with the dedication and creativity to reexplore the format were rewarded, and we got to see some absolutely sick draws and plays. Post PT, IMO it's pretty clear that eye of ugin is incompatible with cheaper eldrazi and it has got to go. It's probably not worth waiting till April either since it's obvious to everyone and being a land makes it very hard to deal with without warping the meta even more. Having cards that are balanced for standard and not other formats is fine and inevitable it just requires using the banlist which they've shown themselves capable of doing.
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I really hope there's enough time for an eldrazi mirror meta to emerge. I want to see people start playing poo poo like Eldrazi Conscription.BizarroAzrael posted:I dunno where I go with modern right now. I'd been playing BW Eldrazi online and assembled most of it in paper, beating the spike on the lands and key pieces and got stuff like Smasher, Seer and Reshaper on preorder for chump change. I don't know what it would cost to update the deck online now, but I do have to wonder about a ban, maybe I should stick to Affinity and my mardu brewing? I took a look on eBay earlier and got 3 Fulminator Mages (Fulminator Magi?) for about £20 each, that's good right? Seems good for an Eldrazi-heavy meta right now anyway, especially with fewer Relics being used allowing for recursion.
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I guess you could say that this was Pro Tour: Rise of the Eldrazi.
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The question is how long Wizards holds off on the inevitable ban to sell more packs of OGW. (This is known as the Yu-Gi-Oh Design Strategy.)
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Lottery of Babylon posted:The question is how long Wizards holds off on the inevitable ban to sell more packs of OGW. The next banlist announcement isn't until right around when Shadows over Innistrad goes on sale. Makes you think.
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People complaining saying things are gonna get banned for Eldrazi, but doesn't Blood Moon still exist? Also Fulminator Mage? Also where did the hype go over Boom/Bust? I doubt anything in the deck will get banned once people start figuring out how to sideboard properly.
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There is an Open at the end of the month then Modern GPs start of March. So people have a few weeks to brew up before any big events. MTGO and the Modern classics are probably the most info we'll get til then. After that the next SCG Modern event is the Invitational in April and the next Modern GP is May.
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InterrupterJones posted:People complaining saying things are gonna get banned for Eldrazi, but doesn't Blood Moon still exist? Also Fulminator Mage? Also where did the hype go over Boom/Bust? I doubt anything in the deck will get banned once people start figuring out how to sideboard properly. Problem with the current eldrazi builds is that those forms of land hate are too slow. By the time you've played a moon they've already dropped TKS and smasher. Also a TKS sniping those out of hand before they can be cast gives the deck more immunity to those effects.
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