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A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

The Saddest Robot posted:

I swapped out my crab's XL for a standard and my survivability seems about the same tbh. I think it's because the side profile of the center torso is so large and I keep trying to torso twist to spread out damage which instead just focuses all the damage in my large crab nose.

The marauder wiggle will probably serve you better.

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Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Has there ever been any discussion on making it so you could loan out mechs? Would be awesome for getting friends into the game. Doesn't have to be fancy. Just make it so they can't edit the mech and you can't use it while they have it. Give either player the ability to give it back whenever. Doesn't seem like it would cause any major issues and would probably increase the population by a lot.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

novaSphere posted:

A STD Crab's poor damage output is tempered by the fact it's stupidly hard to kill and won't stop doing damage until it's actually dead. That's its entire schtick; maybe not optimal, but it's loving fun.

Remember when CN9-As were the king poo poo of zombie mountain?

This. A good crab finishes the match with less than 17% of the mech remaining. Try emulating that in other mechs.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


The Banshee 3M is pretty good fun and also shoots a billion lasers everywhere.

Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer

DancingShade posted:

This. A good crab finishes the match with less than 17% of the mech remaining. Try emulating that in other mechs.

My standard modus operandi in the crab is to engage override and storm clamps first into the enemy formation cause i cant take the peek-a-boo anymore and shoot point blank at anything that moves.
I usually die from overheating in there.

Crabs need missile bays for SRMs, it is known.

armchairyoda
Sep 17, 2008
Melman

Yolomon Wayne posted:

My standard modus operandi in the crab is to engage override and storm clamps first into the enemy formation cause i cant take the peek-a-boo anymore and shoot point blank at anything that moves.
I usually die from overheating in there.

Crabs need missile bays for SRMs, it is known.

Right now, EVERY cyborg needs more missle bays for SRM's.

Sanders/Chapelle! 2016!

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Yolomon Wayne posted:

Crabs need missile bays for SRMs, it is known.

This and some ballistics for a joke machinegun cluster or AC/5.

theletterC
Dec 16, 2006
Will someone invite me to either of the two clans? I don't care which. In-game name is theletterC.

Supraluminal
Feb 17, 2012
I have a Misery and need to (eventually) buy two other Stalkers. Which ones do people like the most? Any love for the 5S? I'm eyeing that 255XL it comes with for other builds....

TeeMerk
Jun 9, 2013

theletterC posted:

Will someone invite me to either of the two clans? I don't care which. In-game name is theletterC.

WoL invite sent! mumble info in MotD.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"

TheParadigm posted:

can anyone recommend me some baby's first clan dropdeck?
I have 2 stormcrows, 1 hellbringer, 2 cheetas, 1 kit fox to work with.

On a related subject, what clan is GIRL currently with? Jade falcon still, or doing grand clan tour for bays??

Clan dropdeck is normally 2 stormcrows + 2 timberwolves, but substitute the timbers for hellbringers or jaguars if you want.

You could also do 1 cheetah and 3 timber/hell/jag I think that fits. I'd do the cheetah with 2 Large lasers if you were dropping with pubbies and only use it last.

Hellbringer with 4 large lasers is usually damage king in pub matches, could even do 2 LL and a gauss if you wanted but gauss are in a really lovely place right now.

Washout fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Feb 8, 2016

EAThief
Aug 28, 2006

I swear it's not what you think



Supraluminal posted:

I have a Misery and need to (eventually) buy two other Stalkers. Which ones do people like the most? Any love for the 5S? I'm eyeing that 255XL it comes with for other builds....

The 5S is alright but the other best Stalkers are probably the 4N for Maximum Laserdrill and the 5M for the shitload of SRMs build. The 5S is the only one I haven't used, but it looks like it'd be fine with a bunch of LPLs on it.

Krinkle
Feb 9, 2003

Ah do believe Ah've got the vapors...
Ah mean the farts


What's a good build for the 8million credit griffon. The 4m I think? Why is it double the price of all the others? If it's just branding then I'm a sucker and I fell for it.

Stringbean
Aug 6, 2010

Krinkle posted:

What's a good build for the 8million credit griffon. The 4m I think? Why is it double the price of all the others? If it's just branding then I'm a sucker and I fell for it.

GRF-3M comes with an XL engine installed, thus bumping its cbill cost up a bit. IIRC the basic build is 4x ASRM4, 2x MLas (you can probably fit MPLas instead). Keep an arm free, so you can twist. I sold it after I mastered it, but I kept my 2n which has about the same armament but with ECM

JacksAngryBiome
Oct 23, 2014
I love the 4 machine-gun Huginn and hope they put out that 12 machine gun mech (Piranha?). Machine guns. I want all of them.

Also a shout out to the goon group tonight in quick-drop. We rolled a lot of pubs, got rolled a few times ourselves, and kept on trucking. Just about every map evolved (devolved?) into a wonderful murder-brawl. Good times.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.


JacksAngryBiome posted:

I love the 4 machine-gun Huginn and hope they put out that 12 machine gun mech (Piranha?). Machine guns. I want all of them.

Also a shout out to the goon group tonight in quick-drop. We rolled a lot of pubs, got rolled a few times ourselves, and kept on trucking. Just about every map evolved (devolved?) into a wonderful murder-brawl. Good times.

You should be hoping for the Clan mech (the Bane/Kraken) that has 10 Ultra AC/2s and 4 machine guns.

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Krinkle posted:

What's a good build for the 8million credit griffon. The 4m I think? Why is it double the price of all the others? If it's just branding then I'm a sucker and I fell for it.

This is what I do with it, roughly

GRF-3M

run around enemies counterclockwise so you can keep your left side to them after you twist. twist all over the place. chase down and murder assaults. go fast

JacksAngryBiome
Oct 23, 2014

Zaodai posted:

You should be hoping for the Clan mech (the Bane/Kraken) that has 10 Ultra AC/2s and 4 machine guns.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Yes. It is like a king crab and a jaeger had a giant anorexic robot baby.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Bane_%28Kraken%29

JacksAngryBiome fucked around with this message at 06:33 on Feb 8, 2016

Supraluminal
Feb 17, 2012
Just had a match on Frozen City where I circled around in a Huginn and KO'd two Dire Wolves by standing behind them and alpha-ing SRMA12 three times into each of their butts. One right after the other, standing in a group with a couple other guys. Neither moved, nobody shot at me. Admittedly they were trading shots with other people on my team at the time, but man it was still pretty sad.

TheParadigm
Dec 10, 2009

Krinkle posted:

What's a good build for the 8million credit griffon. The 4m I think? Why is it double the price of all the others? If it's just branding then I'm a sucker and I fell for it.

The 3m also gets toughnesss quirks that other griffins dont.

MagicBoots
Mar 29, 2010

How about we pump the atmosphere full of methane?
You put me on Cargo handling optimization?! I am the premier defense specialist in the entirety of the UN!
Don't you dare pull my funding!
You can't cut back on funding!
You will regret this!

Supraluminal posted:

Just had a match on Frozen City where I circled around in a Huginn and KO'd two Dire Wolves by standing behind them and alpha-ing SRMA12 three times into each of their butts. One right after the other, standing in a group with a couple other guys. Neither moved, nobody shot at me. Admittedly they were trading shots with other people on my team at the time, but man it was still pretty sad.

I once ran a big circle around polar highlands and found myself behind 2 catapults both LRMing. I sat there and killed both of them with my 6 small pulse lasers shooting them in the back. Neither of them turned around, 1 started reversing when I shot him, 1 turned and hid behind cover...forward facing cover.

Do people just not understand that the damage indicator is directional?

MagicBoots fucked around with this message at 08:36 on Feb 9, 2016

TeeMerk
Jun 9, 2013
If you see a guy named IMUS ask him about his mom.

Never go full pubbie retard.

Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer

MagicBoots posted:

I once ran a big circle around polar highlands and found myself behind 2 catapults both LRMing. I sat their and killed both of them with my 6 small pulse lasers shooting them in the back. Neither of them turned around, 1 started reversing when I shot him, 1 turned and hid behind cover...forward facing cover.

Do people just not understand that the damage indicator is directional?

No.
They also tend to maximum zoom and turn in all directions at once while masterfully missing every shot due to arm-unlock.

Seriously, i see SO MUCH useless unlocking while spectating, its painful to watch people miss an atlas left and right because they want to be pro.
I know im not that good, so i dont do it, and the vast majority of my salvoes takes a splitsecond longer to aim but hits dead center.
This gets me almost as mad as the last-man-standing light mechs that start to torso twist in the middle of 6 people.

Ren and Stimpire
Oct 28, 2013

Fun Shoe

Yolomon Wayne posted:


This gets me almost as mad as the last-man-standing light mechs that start to torso twist in the middle of 6 people.

Sometimes you have to be the saltine, and should gracefully accept it.

Krinkle
Feb 9, 2003

Ah do believe Ah've got the vapors...
Ah mean the farts


Pattonesque posted:

This is what I do with it, roughly

GRF-3M

run around enemies counterclockwise so you can keep your left side to them after you twist. twist all over the place. chase down and murder assaults. go fast

Do short range missiles even need artemis? Did I spent 250k on nothing?

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

Krinkle posted:

Do short range missiles even need artemis?

Yes. Don't run SRMs without Artemis.

Also, if you're going to put an XL in a 3M, I'd probably do this instead: http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=128&l=4b783ad7fb2326545788513b81004899f669b395

Not running max CT armour on anything is crazy.

You might be able to get rid of the two engine heatsinks for more SRM ammo, depending on how fast you run out of ammo/how fast you feel heat builds up.

Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 11:36 on Feb 8, 2016

Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer

Marshall Louis posted:

Sometimes you have to be the saltine, and should gracefully accept it.

Ok you got me there, whats a saltine?

Stringbean
Aug 6, 2010

Yolomon Wayne posted:

Ok you got me there, whats a saltine?

A cracker

Major Spag
Nov 4, 2012
So the MAD-5M with 2 UAC/5s and 4MPLs isn't really doing it for me. Just not sexy enough. Something about bracket builds and stuff.

Anyone have some good alternative builds given you're pretty gimped on the torso slots vs the 5D or 3R? Sticking an AC/20 in there makes my eyes twitch a bit and having low slung LPLs just seems bad. Anyone tried anything else?

Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer

Major Spag posted:

So the MAD-5M with 2 UAC/5s and 4MPLs isn't really doing it for me. Just not sexy enough. Something about bracket builds and stuff.

Anyone have some good alternative builds given you're pretty gimped on the torso slots vs the 5D or 3R? Sticking an AC/20 in there makes my eyes twitch a bit and having low slung LPLs just seems bad. Anyone tried anything else?

The arms arent that low, really.
Especially compared to the arms of 90% of the IS mechs.

Im running this for fun at the moment, trying out new things in my trusty rauders:

Laserauder
For the 5M move the torso-laser into the arm.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

If I've snuck up behind someone in a fight I'll sometimes try to time my salvo into their rear ct to be at the same time as he's getting hit by something in the front.

ZombyDog
Jul 11, 2001

Ere to fix yer gubbinz

Major Spag posted:

So the MAD-5M with 2 UAC/5s and 4MPLs isn't really doing it for me. Just not sexy enough. Something about bracket builds and stuff.

Anyone have some good alternative builds given you're pretty gimped on the torso slots vs the 5D or 3R? Sticking an AC/20 in there makes my eyes twitch a bit and having low slung LPLs just seems bad. Anyone tried anything else?
I don't know if you've actually tried the low slung LPLs , but I find going quad LPL to be my thing. It's not a hill poker as you have surmised but you can use corners to great advantage. I find that the quad LPLs rather effective for aggressive close in combat but you do need to keep a path of retreat in mind - turning around is death, always be aware of cover to back up into when you need to cool off.

Banano
Jan 10, 2005
Soiled Meat

Alchenar posted:

If I've snuck up behind someone in a fight I'll sometimes try to time my salvo into their rear ct to be at the same time as he's getting hit by something in the front.

This. Even when people are under fire from lurms but not actually being hit by them they asume that the damage piling into their backs is somehow coming from across the map rather than a small robot man standing behind them

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Lemon Curdistan posted:

Yes. Don't run SRMs without Artemis.

Also, if you're going to put an XL in a 3M, I'd probably do this instead: http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=128&l=4b783ad7fb2326545788513b81004899f669b395

Not running max CT armour on anything is crazy.

You might be able to get rid of the two engine heatsinks for more SRM ammo, depending on how fast you run out of ammo/how fast you feel heat builds up.

oh yeah thanks for fixing, forgot to switch out the armor

Samuel L. Hacksaw
Mar 26, 2007

Never Stop Posting
Like, I was never explicitly taught about the radial damage indicator, but it just clicked intuitively since its the same as other games. Are pubbies (and a huge amount of goons) really that tunnel visioned/dumb? I have trouble believing this is most people's first fps.

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

Pattonesque posted:

oh yeah thanks for fixing, forgot to switch out the armor

Yeah, I figured that was the case. :)

Banano
Jan 10, 2005
Soiled Meat

Random Number posted:

Are pubbies (and a huge amount of goons) really that tunnel visioned/dumb? I have trouble believing this is most people's first fps.

are you honestly asking this

Drythe
Aug 26, 2012


 

Banano posted:

are you honestly asking this

Supraluminal
Feb 17, 2012
How does the matchmaker assemble teams in the solo queue these days? It clearly isn't enforcing the old 3-per-weight-class thing, so does it balance teams by total tonnage? Basically I want to know if the same incentive to bring a heaviest-in-class mech still exists or if I can run a Cicada or whatever without feeling like a drain on the team.

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Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer
Take whatever you like really.
Had a Marauder in 4th slot in loving Alpha Lance on saturday...

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