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Count Bleck posted:But seriously why is it in the past two years there's been a lot of media that is just huge lovecraft references? I've never actually read any Lovecraft, but isn't that pretty ironic?
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I can't think of much in the last two years? Did you think Bloodborne was like the first Lovecraft referencing game?
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Feb 8, 2016 18:14
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Elyv posted:I've never actually read any Lovecraft, but isn't that pretty ironic? Smidge. RubberJohnny posted:I can't think of much in the last two years? I just really like Bloodborne okay? It was A Big Deal™
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Feb 8, 2016 18:26
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Didn't Kenny come up with phrexian mana?
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Feb 8, 2016 18:43
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Snacksmaniac posted:Didn't Kenny come up with phrexian mana? No, that was a late replacement for one of Ken's wacky ideas e: I think it was the BFM mechanic Barry Shitpeas fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Feb 8, 2016 |
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Feb 8, 2016 19:18
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When Ken Nagle inevitably overloads his graveyard set with graveyard hate, the graveyard hate will have synergy with Processors. Another victory for inter-block planning!
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Feb 8, 2016 19:19
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Snacksmaniac posted:Didn't Kenny come up with phrexian mana? Controversial opinion-- Phyrexian mana was cool and good except for being on a counterspell. Birthing Pod's text box was going to be a problem even if you hadn't been able to speed it up a bit at the cost of life, though I concede that having the option was a little bit of extra gasoline on the fire. And Dismember/Probe are just fine. Lottery of Babylon posted:When Ken Nagle inevitably overloads his graveyard set with graveyard hate, the graveyard hate will have synergy with Processors. Another victory for inter-block planning! Hahahaha, I didn't even realize this. They're giving the graveyard set to the person whose graveyard hatred is so great it's a meme. 
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Feb 8, 2016 19:21
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Lovecraft has had a pretty steady if not rapid growth over the last fifteen years or so. Not too weird there is an ok amount of mainstream references now.
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Feb 8, 2016 19:24
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JerryLee posted:Controversial opinion-- Phyrexian mana was cool and good except for being on a counterspell. Birthing Pod's text box was going to be a problem even if you hadn't been able to speed it up a bit at the cost of life, though I concede that having the option was a little bit of extra gasoline on the fire. And Dismember/Probe are just fine. I mostly agree, but I hold reservations about Mutagenic Growth - it's the sort of card Development always needs to keep the corner of its eye on. It's not overpowered in itself, but there's always the case of Infect or a similar mechanic abusing it to go over the top.
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Feb 8, 2016 19:30
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Wowwww, Eldrich Moon is the worst set EVER!!!!!
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Feb 8, 2016 19:31
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This is the Games Workshop death thread, right?
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Feb 8, 2016 19:33
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Incredibly surprising that in an age of information, the thing people are most interested in is the inherently unknowable. Might be why we get a lot of Lovecraftian horror out and about.
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Feb 8, 2016 19:35
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Barry Shitpeas posted:No, that was a late replacement for one of Ken's wacky ideas the BFM mechanic was soulbond 1.0 I believe, which isn't imo a bad mechanic altho the limited environment it was introduced in was not at all equipped to handle it and I think phyexian mana is pretty okay on cards like Gitaxian Probe and Gut Shot, heck even Dismember is a good card to me, really the only super broken one was Mental Misstep which was rightly banned anyway
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Feb 8, 2016 19:44
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Angry Grimace posted:
It really is Bloodborne: The Gathering. No complaints here.
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Feb 8, 2016 19:51
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Alris posted:It really is Bloodborne: The Gathering. Yeah same. Better than goddamn power rangers on zendikar.
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Feb 8, 2016 19:52
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Yeah same. Better than goddamn power rangers on zendikar. The worst part about Power Rangers theme is that they didn't go full on henshin heroes.
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Feb 8, 2016 19:55
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Star Man posted:This is the Games Workshop death thread, right? The good parts are like that, yeah. Alris posted:It really is Bloodborne: The Gathering. I love bloodborne but if we don't get any insta-kill creatures then it just won't be the same. I want creatures killing me on turn 2! (That are NOT Eldrazi)
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Feb 8, 2016 19:56
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Ramos posted:The worst part about Power Rangers theme is that they didn't go full on henshin heroes. Karn should have shown up and gave them the old mechas Urza built
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Feb 8, 2016 19:56
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Given nahiri is a lithomancer, and the moon is a bigass rock, I seems safe to assume she's gonna gently caress it up.
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Feb 8, 2016 20:01
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Most of the Phyrexian mana sticks to the artifact colour pie, which is fine. Misstep, Mutagenic Growth and Dismember are the problematic ones. Dismember isn't particularly degenerate, but it is the most efficient black removal despite not actually requiring black.
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Feb 8, 2016 20:03
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Wurzag posted:Given nahiri is a lithomancer, and the moon is a bigass rock, I seems safe to assume she's gonna gently caress it up. She's gonna try writing her name on the moon but the power rangers will stop her half way through. But next time we go back to Innistrad whenever you see the moon in the background of art it will still say TAM on it.
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Feb 8, 2016 20:04
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Wurzag posted:Given nahiri is a lithomancer, and the moon is a bigass rock, I seems safe to assume she's gonna gently caress it up. Does this mean a chance for a Chewbacca themed Sorin death? gently caress yeah, I want to see Nahiri do a Seismic Toss.
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Feb 8, 2016 20:06
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Barry Shitpeas posted:Most of the Phyrexian mana sticks to the artifact colour pie, which is fine. Misstep, Mutagenic Growth and Dismember are the problematic ones. Dismember isn't particularly degenerate, but it is the most efficient black removal despite not actually requiring black. You could always make a card that e.g. did a very black effect and have it cost (B/P)(B/P)B.
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Feb 8, 2016 20:08
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Ramos posted:The worst part about Power Rangers theme is that they didn't go full on henshin heroes. They WERE double-faced cards. I mean they literally couldn't TRANSFORM, but... 
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Feb 8, 2016 20:15
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Birthing Pod is, bar none, the best card design I've seen since I started and my favorite card in Magic. Nothing else comes close, it's a Starcraft building style of Artifact that's strong, flexible, and very, very playable, and that's rare.
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Feb 8, 2016 20:18
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TheKingofSprings posted:Birthing Pod is, bar none, the best card design I've seen since I started and my favorite card in Magic. Yeah they'd probably put it at mythic if they reprinted it.
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Feb 8, 2016 20:20
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Entropic posted:You could always make a card that e.g. did a very black effect and have it cost (B/P)(B/P)B. They never did that though, because being able to use off-color Phyrexian mana cards was the whole point of Phyrexian mana. They were meant to be halfway between colored cards and colorless artifacts. The problem is that unlike Shadowmoor monocolor-hybrid cards, Phyrexian mana is cheaper if you don't use the right color, not more expensive. So instead of paying a premium for an off-color effect, you actually get the off-color effect cheaper than that color itself ever gets. I don't think Dismember needs to be banned, but it's pretty dumb that the best black removal doesn't require black at all.
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Feb 8, 2016 20:23
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Yea, the problem with dismember is mainly that it is way too good, same with mental misstep. They just overestimated the value of 4 life.
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Entropic posted:She's gonna try writing her name on the moon but the power rangers will stop her half way through. But next time we go back to Innistrad whenever you see the moon in the background of art it will still say TAM on it. 
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Feb 8, 2016 20:35
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Wurzag posted:Given nahiri is a lithomancer, and the moon is a bigass rock, I seems safe to assume she's gonna gently caress it up. Yeah all this "Emrakul is on Innistrad!" stuff MIGHT be true, but it's more likely (as in it's confirmed) this is "Nahiri Strikes Back!" block. Which is good because gently caress Sorin. The Moon ties in to the Madness angle, because the Moon has long had associations with madness and insanity. I think they are gonna slow roll Emrakul in another block. They have to do their Legion of Evil at some point now that they have their superfriends established. What are the odds we get a new Tibalt? Jace, Lilly, Sorin, and Nahiri are almost certainly going to take 4 out of the 5 planeswalkers spots. (Unless Nahiri is Avacyn thing is true, then she'll be a legendary creature) Which means we have to settle for either a Tamiyo or Tibbers. And Tibbers might actually be good in a set with Madness.
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Feb 8, 2016 20:49
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TheKingofSprings posted:Birthing Pod is, bar none, the best card design I've seen since I started and my favorite card in Magic. I 100% agree with you and every time a card like it has to be banned, I feel bad for the earnest Johnnys who can't have their nice things.
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Feb 8, 2016 20:49
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anglachel posted:Yeah all this "Emrakul is on Innistrad!" stuff MIGHT be true, but it's more likely (as in it's confirmed) this is "Nahiri Strikes Back!" block. Which is good because gently caress Sorin. The Moon ties in to the Madness angle, because the Moon has long had associations with madness and insanity.
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Feb 8, 2016 20:54
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TheKingofSprings posted:Birthing Pod is, bar none, the best card design I've seen since I started and my favorite card in Magic. Totally agree with you. It's my favorite card of all time. I was really sad when it was banned in Modern.
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Feb 8, 2016 20:58
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I dunno, if there's a plane that I can see randomly having its own home-grown eldritch horrors, it's Innistrad.
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Feb 8, 2016 20:59
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character angry her plane was used to imprison eldrazi wants to get revenge another dude with his one plane. zero chance she does the same thing to him. nope. none at all
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Feb 8, 2016 21:02
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Lancelot posted:how do you see a set called "Eldritch Moon" and think there are no eldrazi in it Because something being up with the Moon was hinted at in the first Innistrad block? born on a buy you posted:character angry her plane was used to imprison eldrazi wants to get revenge another dude with his one plane. zero chance she does the same thing to him. nope. none at all I think the odds of us seeing an Emrakul or Eldrazi card are pretty low. Though Nahari being the Planeswalker version of Kalitas for Emrakul could be a real thing.
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Lancelot posted:how do you see a set called "Eldritch Moon" and think there are no eldrazi in it I don't think there are necessarily eldrazi in the set because Eldritch is not a word that Lovecraft invented, and Eldrazi are not direct lovecraft monsters, and while their name is intended to invoke that word Eldritch is totally a high-falutin' enough word to be applied to non-lovecraftian horror, especially if you are a fantasy game who has terrible fiction pushed out on the reg that frequently misses popular context of words (Thugz and Bugz most recently). I think there is a non-zero chance that despite loving Lovecraft, the ELMO team would have missed that they were making the implication that eldrazi were involved and be legitimately shocked that people thought they were going to be there. I would personally hope Emrakul shows up in the background but I don't think they're going to show up as creatures.
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Feb 8, 2016 21:04
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The Demolish variant that was leaked looks very eldrazi-ish. It exiles and involves reality distortion.
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anglachel posted:Because something being up with the Moon was hinted at in the first Innistrad block? The moon had all sorts of things going on with it. Transforming werewolves, being theorized to be made of the moon silver the church used with its weapons (which I might add is really super effective against anything monstrous), it shot loving lasers. Also something about unnatural lunar cycles? I wouldn't be surprised to find out the Innistrad moon is like the globe entities from Destiny. Literally living. Sigma-X posted:I don't think there are necessarily eldrazi in the set because Eldritch is not a word that Lovecraft invented, and Eldrazi are not direct lovecraft monsters, and while their name is intended to invoke that word Eldritch is totally a high-falutin' enough word to be applied to non-lovecraftian horror, especially if you are a fantasy game who has terrible fiction pushed out on the reg that frequently misses popular context of words (Thugz and Bugz most recently). I think there is a non-zero chance that despite loving Lovecraft, the ELMO team would have missed that they were making the implication that eldrazi were involved and be legitimately shocked that people thought they were going to be there. Yes, but Magic runs off of pop culture and eldritch = Lovecraftian bullshit at this point. And Eldrazi are Lovecraftian bullshit.
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Ramos posted:The moon had all sorts of things going on with it. Transforming werewolves, being theorized to be made of the moon silver the church used with its weapons (which I might add is really super effective against anything monstrous), it shot loving lasers. Also something about unnatural lunar cycles? Can't believe you'd talk about moons shooting lasers and not mention the legacy weapon. Moons are cool.
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