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ScreamingLlama posted:OK then, if you think breaking the law is completely acceptable, then why don't you just drug-traffick your way out of poverty OH WAIT DRUGS ARE BAD AREN'T THEY your pure stupidity is utterly breathtaking
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turdbucket posted:Yeah I agree with this, just to be clear I think eating disorders and issues with depression etc leading to someone overeating and therefore struggling with everyday life is a valid disability. It's just that Screamingllama is a moron and arguing against apparent welfare fraud, which is such a pitiful amount to be taking from the government anyway, even ignoring the very small percent of people who do it, while claiming disability for something his fellow welfare fraud crusaders would normally dismiss as a disability is stupid. Also a very fat man telling vegans to go gently caress themselves while apparently packing himself full of factory farmed meats to the point he cannot function properly is gross. if he wasn't such an angry boy telling others how to live i would have sympathy for his fat arse but as he likes to poo poo on how others choose to live their lovely lives then i don't see why we can't call him the fat moron that he is. You really are living up to your username. I'm not on the DSP because of obesity, you poo poo-dribbling horsefucker. I'm not even really obese because gently caress the BMI algorithm. I'm on disability because of chronic illness, mobility issues and severe panic disorder. If you're going to use those as ammo in this thread, I hope you get stabbed with a dirty needle because you are an irredeemable sack of human garbage.
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ScreamingLlama posted:You really are living up to your username. I have all those issues too but you don't see me trying to get DSP. Get a job
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I don't suppose you've heard of the concept of 'degree of severity'? No? Carry on, then.
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ScreamingLlama posted:I don't suppose you've heard of the concept of 'degree of severity'? No. but I have heard of welfare fraud and I think we can all agree that it's far to easy for a cheater to get the benefits you have, so you should definitely be under more scrutiny.
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woah, these last couple of pages have really been... something... And I am questioning many things regarding morality, but it's still a show nonetheless. Also, let them stay, loving heathens ITC, In This (loving worthless) Country. gently caress your racist and xenophobic thoughts you loving poo poo eating leeches, and gently caress sending 37 babies to a psychological hell, this ride loving sucks and I want a refund (of legislation).
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Maybe if the government wasnt spending upwards of 65K a head for basic IT work they would have money for server upgrades. I applied for a few jobs that were basically 'can you troubleshoot MS office' and they were paying up to 75k a year with super. The office of state revenue was one of them, but it was so boring just visiting there to do the interview that I wanted to kill myself.
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I just love how oblivious you are.
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Laserface posted:Maybe if the government wasnt spending upwards of 65K a head for basic IT work they would have money for server upgrades. It's more than that, these are large scale IT projects and few know how to do them effectively or efficiently. Every department is different, hell, I'm pretty sure every building is different. You've got kludges on top of kludges that can't be untangled like a really bad snarl.
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Senor Tron posted:No. but I have heard of welfare fraud and I think we can all agree that it's far to easy for a cheater to get the benefits you have, so you should definitely be under more scrutiny. Already am, thanks. big brother is watching me every day he watches me whip he watches me ne ne
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Hey turns out were now importing British scandals. [quote="Our ABC! The Big Four banks will be quaking in their boots as they wait to see if the corporate regulator will take legal action against ANZ over alleged interbank interest rate rigging, writes Sheryle Bagwell. Labor Senator Sam Dastyari says it has the potential to be the "largest financial scandal of its kind in Australia". That's a big call given the recent financial advice mis-selling problems which have embroiled the big banks and smashed the retirement savings of thousands of investors. But the long-running ASIC investigation into possible interbank interest rate rigging - which appears to be reaching its denouement - has the potential to be more damaging to the banking sector in terms of fines and enforceable undertakings than anything that has come before it. "This is huge," Dastyari told RN Breakfast this morning. "My sources within ASIC ... seem fairly confident that they are on the verge of what will perhaps be the largest ever civil penalties process of its kind." The Australian Financial Review's Adele Ferguson reported today that the corporate regulator was just weeks away from launching legal action against one bank under investigation for possible rates rigging - ANZ Bank. ANZ was the only major retail bank to out itself two years ago when it stood down seven traders targeted by ASIC for possible manipulation of the benchmark interest rate, known as the bank bill swap rate or BBSW. But as Dastyari pointed out today, you can't manipulate rates on your own - you have to have partners. And so all the banks which once sat on the BBSW rate-setting panel between 2007 and 2013 - it's since been dismantled - are now being investigated for possible rate rigging and collusion, including the other Big Four banks: the CBA, NAB and Westpac. Any potential action against ANZ would have them quaking in their boots. So why should we care if a few traders tinkered with an obscure interbank lending rate? The bank bill swap rate is the interest rate used by banks when they lend to each other. It ultimately influences everything from mortgage loans to small business and car loans. So if a bunch of traders get together and decide that the BBSW has to rise, then consumers will pay more, with the profits flowing directly to the banks' bottom lines equally (after all, there was collusion), which means higher bonuses for the traders involved. In other words, we pay while they party. ASIC was tipped off about the possible misconduct after a similar scandal exploded in the UK in 2012. Some of the world's biggest banks were found to have deliberately manipulated the most widely used interest rate in the world, known as the Libor or London interbank offered rate, to boost their profits. The Libor scandal led to banks such as UBS, the Royal Bank of Scotland and Barclays being fined billions* of dollars by UK regulators. One trader was sent to jail for 14 years, reduced on appeal to 11 years. ....ASIC though is now apparently closing in on the big fish - the Big Four - where rates rigging has potentially a much bigger impact on the economy. According to Sam Dastyari, ASIC has been trawling through years of emails and chat room records of bank traders for evidence of manipulation and collusion. He says the regulator has spent 50 per cent of its budget on this one investigation alone, and that legal action against the ANZ as the first cab off the rank is close. For its part, ASIC is keeping mum on the pace of the investigation. But it expects to be asked about the case when it appears before a Senate inquiry on Thursday, the same one still investigating the financial planning saga. Sam Dastyari sits on the committee and will no doubt be asking the question. The biggest question though may be whether the punishment - when and if it comes - will fit the crime. The banks face civil penalties that Sam Dastyari warns could be "huge". But how much of a deterrent will they be in the end? Will they just be viewed by the perpetrators as the cost of doing business, as the Greens have complained? Another Senate inquiry - set up by the Greens - is now looking at the level of penalties for white collar crime in Australia. The ASIC inquiry into rates rigging in Australia - if proved - will be its first test case.[/quote] [i]* looked it up apparently the Libor scandal had six different banks pay a total of $AU 7.6 billion in fines. [/s] Vote Libor 2016!
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so screamingllama is a welfare fraud in addition to being an electoral fraud, got it.
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dr_rat posted:Hey turns out were now importing British scandals.
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ScreamingLlama posted:I'm not on the DSP because of obesity, you poo poo-dribbling horsefucker. I'm not even really obese because gently caress the BMI algorithm. I'm on disability because of chronic illness, mobility issues and severe panic disorder. If you're going to use those as ammo in this thread, I hope you get stabbed with a dirty needle because you are an irredeemable sack of human garbage. ScreamingLlama posted:I don't suppose you've heard of the concept of 'degree of severity'? You are literally a gigantic shitheel. I was going to write that I couldn't understand why your position is the one you have, especially since you allegedly have health issues which preclude you from working normally. The sad part is that I can understand why you hold this terrible opinion, and that's because you just can't empathize with anyone else. Not only does it appear that you don't really understand that people can be in a lovely situation, but you don't mentalise that people may hold the opinion that you appear to be a "welfare cheat", due to existing stigma regarding mental health. There really is some brilliant irony in the fact that your application was rejected, and yet you still hold your position. You'd normally expect someone in your position would be more understanding.
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Sorry guys it isn't cool to use anyone's disability as an argument against them. Please stop. Even if the person has explicitly used their disability as a bargaining chip. There are so many other ways to show how hosed up what SL is advocating that it really only makes the disability argument look like a dog act. Points not including disability 1/ The fraud is a tiny part of government revenue (Not the 'billions' claimed without citation by SL). 2/ Detecting the fraud costs a significant amount. 3/ Prosecuting the fraud definitely costs more than the amount potentially saved ( That's not why there are prosecutions). 4/ In many cases 'fraud' is a result of the Byzantine processes in place to discourage valid applicants. 5/ When the benefits are so pitiful it leaves people in financial hardship despite their best efforts a little 'massaging' or the facts is inevitable (See also petty crime in Dickensian Britain). There are more but until SL addresses the above and justifies their stance of: ScreamingLlama posted:(I'm not saying they found the best way to go about combating the fraud, either, but I'd like to see you do better.) -/- Want to choose the worst* person possible? Of course you did! http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...131-gmhyfe.html quote:Kate Carnell quits business lobby to become first small business ombudsman February 1, 2016 James Massola I have a strong suspicion that this is going to be another barracking spot for the neo-cons rather than any sort of a small business 'support' role. I hope to be greatly disappointed. -/- http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-09/closing-the-gap-doomed-to-fail-without-more-indigenous-input/7149442 quote:Closing the Gap 'doomed to fail' without more Indigenous input, activist Patrick Dodson says By the National Reporting Team's Natasha Robinson Updated about an hour ago Book published in 1942 about WA in the 19th Century posted:]there was little in the attitude of the invaders that was likely to modify the harshness of the meeting or to assist the native in the process of adapting himself to new conditions, while there was much to hinder that adaptation. ..No particular system was tried long enough or thoroughly enough to justify anyone in saying that such-and-such a method was good or bad. *Worst woman? I think it's great the position has gone to someone who isn't a suit but KC is a total piece of human garbage who can be paid to say anything.
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https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/30767296/government-eyes-massive-medicare-health-privatisation/quote:Medicare, pharmaceutical and aged-care benefits would be delivered by the private sector under an extraordinary transformation of health services being secretly considered by the Federal Government. It is the West Australian, but looks like it's finally happening. Sigh....
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Medicare, pharmaceutical and aged-care benefits would be delivered by the private sector benefits would be delivered by the private sector *renews Greens membership*
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*watches america desperately trying to nationalise the horribly broken, overcosting underdelivering healthcare system* "Hmmm we should definitely move towards the system they're moving away from."
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# ? Feb 9, 2016 01:25 |
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*signs TPP giving American Pharmaceuticals a gently caress ton of power in regards to medicine access* *Attempts to privatize health* No lobbyists here, no siree.
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I'm opting out
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# ? Feb 9, 2016 01:46 |
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Oh yeah? Well maybe I'll start my own national insurance scheme.
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If the ALP doesn't gain in the polls now then I don't know what the gently caress.
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# ? Feb 9, 2016 01:50 |
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We're all being trolled A good blog post
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# ? Feb 9, 2016 01:51 |
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You're not being trolled. These people just have a completely different worldview.
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Anidav posted:If the ALP doesn't gain in the polls now then I don't know what the gently caress. Probably not. I'm callin' another 11 year Liberal government
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The Peccadillo posted:Probably not. I'm callin' another 11 year Liberal government at least I won't care after the first 6 because there will be nothing of value left to save anyway.
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ScreamingLlama posted:Already am, thanks. dear screaming llama, log off permanently
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starkebn posted:We're all being trolled oz is a deadset legend and this is a pro-click article
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The Peccadillo posted:Probably not. I'm callin' another 11 year Liberal government I can't see any way of challenging this prediction.
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It's going to be an early election so that Turnbull can avoid having to show the public what his first budget would be (GST increase) and they'll win with a reduced majority in the lower house and a hung senate.
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Can anyone explain to me how the gently caress having a for profit enterprise running important social infrastructure makes any loving sense. Ever dollar of profit is a waste for the taxpay as its not improving the service in any loving way!!
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thatfatkid posted:It's going to be an early election so that Turnbull can avoid having to show the public what his first budget would be (GST increase) and they'll win with a reduced majority in the lower house and a hung senate. Lucy Turnbull is pushing hard for an Easter DD and Malcolm is holding back. Apparently Lucy is the Yoko and Malcolm Lennon, so it's a dice roll, but loaded to Easter rather than August. The steaming pile dumped on the senate on day one this year suggests they're looking for options
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It's a combination of ideology, greed, and trying to look cool in front of your CEO mates. You see arguments like 'well why should the government run an airline/a phone company/a health insurer/whatever and that's about the end of the philosophy behind it. It can work when the market is big enough to support competition, which is why a plane ticket to the UK doesn't cost a years wages anymore, but for something like the PBS it's just siphoning money off to the private sector. open24hours fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Feb 9, 2016 |
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It's part of the retirement plan from politics.
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# ? Feb 9, 2016 03:18 |
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Awesome to see a bunch of poseurs who will scream at the slightest ideological sin using a person's mental illness for ammo in a flame war. You're all hypocritical assholes. e: except cartoon who has been chill and reasonable throughout. Amethyst fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Feb 9, 2016 |
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BlitzkriegOfColour posted:I have all those issues too but you don't see me trying to get DSP. Get a job You're a loving dickhead mate.
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# ? Feb 9, 2016 03:21 |
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I think you mean his personality
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Michymech posted:Can anyone explain to me how the gently caress having a for profit enterprise running important social infrastructure makes any loving sense. Ever dollar of profit is a waste for the taxpay as its not improving the service in any loving way!! Depends on what you consider to be the important bit. Right leaning folk think profit for the providers should be the important bit, people with empathy think universal access to literally life saving systems is the important bit. The thing they never explain when they say the market can do it cheaper is because the market does the sums to work out who they need to cut off to make things more profitable.
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# ? Feb 9, 2016 03:24 |
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Jesus loving christ ian mcdonald at the senate legislation committee. SHY called him a joke lmao.
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asio posted:Lucy Turnbull is pushing hard for an Easter DD and Malcolm is holding back. Apparently Lucy is the Yoko and Malcolm Lennon, so it's a dice roll, but loaded to Easter rather than August. The steaming pile dumped on the senate on day one this year suggests they're looking for options Lucy is pushing hard for a large breasted stripper for her Easter present and people are just failing to understand what she wants. She shouldn't get what she wants, she should get Pavel. Everyone should get Pavel. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/2f/aa/55/2faa5589b3e808407180f233120c410a.jpg
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