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raditts posted:I don't remember who was talking about Trophy Kids on Netflix earlier in the thread, but whoever you were, I hate you. That golf dad, holy crap.
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What's AMC's stance on swears? They're cable, so technically they can do whatever, but I'm sure they have rules. How often was Breaking bad, for example, allowed to say gently caress?
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Feb 9, 2016 07:11
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boom boom boom posted:What's AMC's stance on swears? They're cable, so technically they can do whatever, but I'm sure they have rules. How often was Breaking bad, for example, allowed to say gently caress? They always bleep it out, as far as I remember. Everything short of "gently caress" is fair game though.
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Feb 9, 2016 07:12
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Nobody says gently caress on Walking Dead. Even when their arm is getting eaten.
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Feb 9, 2016 07:16
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Never, they always edited it out.
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Feb 9, 2016 07:17
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boom boom boom posted:How often was Breaking bad, for example, allowed to say gently caress? one a season, first run only ShakeZula posted:They always bleep it out, as far as I remember. Everything short of "gently caress" is fair game though. cable's allowed to swear (including the big, hugely offensive ones like "friend of the family" and "oval office") after midnight, that's why comedy central does their uncensored standup specials after midnight iirc if you want a swear, i think you get one freebie of one of the "bigs" from the FCC before you start getting fined, which is how breaking bad got their one a season
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Lycus posted:That golf dad, holy crap. This movie is fascinating because it's really hard to tell which parents are the most psychotic. The golf dad who calls his 7-year-old daughter a bitch for not performing up to standard? Football dad who tells his kid he might as well commit suicide if he quits high school football? Tennis mom who couches her living vicariously through her twin sons in some creepy "God has chosen you to play tennis" cult-level poo poo? Fat screamy basketball dad who is convinced he knows basketball better than people who do it for a living? I don't think I'm even halfway through yet. raditts fucked around with this message at 07:20 on Feb 9, 2016 |
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Feb 9, 2016 07:17
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Mu Zeta posted:Nobody says gently caress on Walking Dead. Even when their arm is getting eaten. Yeah, but this season they're introducing a character who, in the comics, swears a lot. It's a big part of his characterization, something that makes him stand out from the other characters. I'm just wondering if they're gonna drop that or just try to tone it down.
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Feb 9, 2016 07:19
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Rocksicles posted:Never, they always edited it out. no, first run got it, but only the first time gilligan talks about it on the podcast, their one allowed gently caress actually was a big point of contention in the writer's room and it was written around, like there were fights in the room to figure out when and how to use it that's how iconic lines and moments like "gently caress you and your eyebrows" and "I hosed Ted" got written, it was meant to be like a "okay, this is a Serious Enough Moment to be worthy of the one 'gently caress' we get a season"
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Feb 9, 2016 07:20
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Toxxupation posted:iirc if you want a swear, i think you get one freebie of one of the "bigs" from the FCC before you start getting fined, which is how breaking bad got their one a season I thought the FCC didn't regulate the content of cable TV
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Feb 9, 2016 07:21
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premium cable isn't regulated but since cable's ad-supported i think it falls under some looser subsection of FCC regs? Like i know there's a rule against displaying nudity on basic cable dunno though i'm out of my depth there either way i know for a fact that breaking bad only got one uncensored "gently caress" a season, and it was the first "gently caress", and it was only on the first airing
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Feb 9, 2016 07:24
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Toxxupation posted:one a season, first run only
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boom boom boom posted:Yeah, but this season they're introducing a character who, in the comics, swears a lot. It's a big part of his characterization, something that makes him stand out from the other characters. I'm just wondering if they're gonna drop that or just try to tone it down. Jeffrey Dean Morgan is more of the simmering scary dude guy and not the one that swears like a lovely Boondock Saints character. I doubt he will ever swear in the show besides the occasional "poo poo."
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If some basic cable network wanted to show a program with uncensored language they're free to do it. But they don't do it because of advertisers. FCC does have a say in what they consider obscenity on cable, but that doesn't cover language. AMC can show an episode with 50 "fucks" in it if they're confident advertisers won't pull the plug but the FCC will step in if they try to show any actual loving basically.quote:Do the FCC's rules apply to cable and satellite programming? In the past, the FCC has enforced the indecency and profanity prohibitions only against conventional broadcast services, not against subscription programming services such as cable and satellite. However, the prohibition against obscene programming applies to subscription programming services at all times. https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/guides/obscenity-indecency-profanity-faq X-O fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Feb 9, 2016 |
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Feb 9, 2016 07:30
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Sober posted:I think they changed it since then because Better Call Saul had at least 3 or 4 in the first season. to clarify further they could write more "fucks" but only the first aired uncensored and only on first airing, which is where the big confusion lied my memories of the insider podcast are hazy, but i remember gilligan making a specific point of it being this restriction that actually increased creativity from having to write aroung a crutch word like "gently caress" to express emotional extremes and also a good way to check to ensure a moment was dramatically resonant, since they only got one chance of expressing it without getting muted but yeah deffo gilligan probably got more laterality on that poo poo with BCS. what are you gonna tell one of the two founders of your creative brand, "no"?
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Feb 9, 2016 07:31
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The amount of violence that the X-Files reboot gets away with is downright comical
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neckbeard posted:I've got Crave, I watched the first 4 episodes last night, they do the youtube vids justice. The banter is hilarious. The only thing I'm not liking is the skids in episode 2 onwards, they just seem a bit too much. Grew up in an Alberta town of ~15,000 people and the show hits really close to home, especially the hockey players I bit the bullet and got the trial, and I'm so glad I did. But I 100% agree, could've done with 30-40% less of the skids (but then again, that's pretty much a fact of life right there), and the preacher was a little too Dean Pelton from Community, but it was such a blast. I feel like the hockey players were every player I've ever known. It filled the 19-2 shaped hole in my life for a little while, at least. I loved that Jared Keeso apparently dragged Dan Petronijevic over from 19-2 to do a couple episodes. That guy's a hoot.
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zoux posted:All my TV opinions come from Todd Van Der Werff Vox explainers. hey, you'd better not be dissing TVDW, he's cool, and is probably a lot of the reason I visit Vox regularly. I've liked his TV writing since he was freelancing for the AV Club. Earlier, actually (was a regular poster on a forum he was a mod in for a long time).
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boom boom boom posted:Yeah, but this season they're introducing a character who, in the comics, swears a lot. It's a big part of his characterization, something that makes him stand out from the other characters. I'm just wondering if they're gonna drop that or just try to tone it down. hahahahaha god isn't robert kirkman terrible
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Toxxupation posted:one a season, first run only Cable has NO regulation whatsoever and could run hardcore satanic scat porn at 2 pm to a soundtrack of the word gently caress friend of the family oval office on repeat. They simply choose not to. The FCC has no jurisdiction over cable. I'm shocked you don't know this Occ.
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X-O posted:If some basic cable network wanted to show a program with uncensored language they're free to do it. But they don't do it because of advertisers. FCC does have a say in what they consider obscenity on cable, but that doesn't cover language. AMC can show an episode with 50 "fucks" in it if they're confident advertisers won't pull the plug but the FCC will step in if they try to show any actual loving basically. To clarify, the FCC has nothing to do with cable channels, it can really only regulate what is said over the airwaves. So basically, ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, Fox, and a UHF station or two depending on your local market . The threshold for what is allowed in cable is usually set by the local cable providers and advertisers. IFC and Sundance are both niche channels that show tits and rear end, and allow uncensored fucks. The word, not the act. Still, good luck finding them . So if you see Comedy Central showing an uncensored version of the South Park movie at 2 AM, odds are most of the advertisers are going to be Trojan condoms, Adam and Eve, and cam websites that really don't care if the Family Research council boycotts them. As for actual loving, my local cable provider will happily show it, they just charge extra to see erect penises penetrating vaginas. Actual obscenity, when not delivered over public airwaves is usually restricted to kiddie porn, scat, and bestiality. thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 12:36 on Feb 9, 2016 |
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Feb 9, 2016 10:06
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Mu Zeta posted:Nobody says gently caress on Walking Dead. Even when their arm is getting eaten. The worst swear they ever tried to pull off was MOTHER DICK
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Speaking of Walking Dead, there was a big moment from the comics where Rick said "they don't know who they're loving with" but AMC refused to let them swear so they changed loving to messing.
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GreenNight posted:Speaking of Walking Dead, there was a big moment from the comics where Rick said "they don't know who they're loving with" but AMC refused to let them swear so they changed loving to messing. That is so weak. That's like seriously the weakest thing I've ever heard in my life. They can show people screaming in terror for their miserable lives, zombies eviscerating live victims, and shelves full of severed zombie heads, but they can't use the word gently caress for dramatic effect even once, not even if it's a big character defining moment? Shakin my drat head man, that's laughable.
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Also why wouldn't you at least make it 'screwing with'?
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Aphrodite posted:Also why wouldn't you at least make it 'screwing with'? That reminds me of the time that Vic hosed Kavanaugh's wife in The Shield, the next episode he's going on a tirade about it in the office and says something like "he... screwed my wife just to get to me!" Forest Whitaker's delivery was fourth wall-breaking in the best way, it totally felt like he was pissed at being held back by the bullshit arbitrary self-censorship.
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timp posted:That is so weak. That's like seriously the weakest thing I've ever heard in my life. They can show people screaming in terror for their miserable lives, zombies eviscerating live victims, and shelves full of severed zombie heads, but they can't... ...show boobies. American decency standards are ridiculous.
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Manos del Sino posted:...show boobies. Always extra-hilarious in the context of zombie shows and crime procedurals. You can rip someone's guts out, but rip a shirt open? 
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I have a feeling we're only a year or two out from some basic cable channel breaking the "F" barrier for primetime shows. Both Syfy and USA seem well on their way seeing as they have new shows where they let characters say gently caress, they just mute it. For example, last night's The Magicians had Penny call Quentin a "racist mother____" while another character mentioned they were doing what they were doing to ____ with someone.
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They were pretty close to showing child rape
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You can explain away violence to children, but there's nothing you can do about tits and fucks. Don't worry honey, that's just ketchup. The silly man spilled it all over himself and he's just helping him clean it up. No, no, that's sausage. He ate so much he was just stuffed and the zombie was helping him out! That's just his walking stick they snapped. He was about to go for a long hike, it's a good thing they tested it before he left! Haha! Look at the silly brain hat! The zombies like it so much they can't stop taking a close look. Halloween's over! Time to smash this jack-o-lantern we made of our friend's face! Hand me my bat. But if they showed a naked zombie, what do you tell them? She has balloons under her shirt? Ridiculous. Somebody has to think of the children.
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Syfy used both "poo poo" and "rear end in a top hat" in The Expanse, so yeah. Things are definitely easing up. There was a great behind the scenes video where Shohreh Aghdashloo had to keep refilming a scene where her character says "poo poo" because she was too polite to really belt it out.
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the local paper had an editorial which said that letting people say gently caress on tv will cause american to collapse because thats how rome ended
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Spatula City posted:hey, you'd better not be dissing TVDW, he's cool, and is probably a lot of the reason I visit Vox regularly. I've liked his TV writing since he was freelancing for the AV Club. Earlier, actually (was a regular poster on a forum he was a mod in for a long time). TVDW is a hero for posting glowing reviews of HBO's Girls and making gross nerds on the internet really, really mad.
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Feb 9, 2016 18:27
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Rome said gently caress on TV all the time and made it 2 seasons.
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Aphrodite posted:Rome said gently caress on TV all the time and made it 2 seasons. HBO is a totally different beast. Oz, Rome and Deadwood all blurted out slurs like sailors. I'm sure other shows do too, I've just stopped noticing once the HBO logo introduces a new episode.
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Rome the HBO show? If HBO did kids shows, even they would say gently caress all the time.
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EL BROMANCE posted:Rome the HBO show? If HBO did kids shows, even they would say gently caress all the time. Sesame Street is coming to HBO so I guess we'll test out that theory!
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hollylolly posted:Sesame Street is coming to HBO so I guess we'll test out that theory! Bert and Ernies relationship is about to hit a new level.
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Pardon the Family Guy, but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh5pAtgubMY
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