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AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

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GARVASE DAY!

Slime posted:

The crap on steam is anime porn with the porn taken out, which makes me wonder what the gently caress it is they're even selling.

The discussion boards have put pinned, often official tutorials on restoring it. :ms:

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Sleeveless
Dec 25, 2014

by Pragmatica

Leal posted:

Thats still a thing, lemme tell you about steam greenlight...

I'd rather play the entirety of Hunie Pop or Gender Bender DNA Twister Extreme than have to be a teenager explaining to their parents why there was a banner ad for Meet N' gently caress Kingdom on Newgounds while waiting for School Shooter SImulator '05 to load.

GIANT OUIJA BOARD
Aug 22, 2011

177 Years of Your Dick
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In Blood Borne: The Old Hunters, Lady Maria is just the absolute worst. She doesn't play a goddamn thing like any other boss fight in the game, relies on mechanics that are useful but not really necessary anywhere else in the game, and has at least one combo that is essentially a one-hit KO as she will hit you as soon as you are able to stand back up. I have been playing this three minute fight again and again for several hours now.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

Slime posted:

The crap on steam is anime porn with the porn taken out, which makes me wonder what the gently caress it is they're even selling.

All of them that "censored" the game just has a sticky note from the creator in the game's forums on steam with a download link to an uncensor patch. I don't understand why steam bothers telling them to censor the game but be completely cool with them putting an uncensor patch right on the game's discussion page but I don't get paid a billion dollars a year to not make video games so what do I know :shobon:

RyokoTK
Feb 12, 2012

I am cool.
Don't ever back away from Maria, she has a lot of attacks that are designed to punish you for cowardice. She does have fairly low poise and almost all of her attacks have reasonable parry windows, so the trick is to either parry one of her attacks, or dodge forward through one of her attacks and punish her. Because she is easily staggered, a fast weapon can parlay any of those into considerable damage on her. I don't know how she's not like any other Hunter fight, she's aggressive but can be parried relentlessly, exactly the same as Gascoigne from a million hours ago. The only difference is her wide AOE on her attacks, but most of those are mitigated by just getting up in her fuckin' face.

I'm not sure what mechanics you're talking about that are useful but not necessary, because that fight is pretty straightforward to me.

bawk
Mar 31, 2013

GIANT OUIJA BOARD posted:

In Blood Borne: The Old Hunters, Lady Maria is just the absolute worst. She doesn't play a goddamn thing like any other boss fight in the game, relies on mechanics that are useful but not really necessary anywhere else in the game, and has at least one combo that is essentially a one-hit KO as she will hit you as soon as you are able to stand back up. I have been playing this three minute fight again and again for several hours now.

Uh... she's a hunter duel? Like, every hunter enemy you've fought on the way to Maria is preparation for a boss fight like Maria. She has sword combos, she has guns, and her more powered-up version of the fight towards the second half is just getting slightly longer reach and extra damage from blood and fire. She's basically an easier version of the second-to-last boss from the main game, and Gascoigne (without Gascoigne's beast form).

You can parry pretty much all of her attacks, and as long as you dodge toward and slightly angled at her combos you can usually slip by them. The fight's mostly a matter of maximizing your visceral damage and punishing her combos when she overextends.

Krinkle
Feb 9, 2003

Ah do believe Ah've got the vapors...
Ah mean the farts


I'd give advice on maria but to me the game is summon a buddy and go nuts taking turns on trading aggro back and forth. I get how doing it by yourself could be "satisfying" but this is the price you pay by going it alone. Until that satisfying moment you get a hell ride where only you are to blame for loving up!

I get plenty satisfied with jolly cooperation. Especially in the DLC because holy gently caress those bosses are dicks.

GIANT OUIJA BOARD
Aug 22, 2011

177 Years of Your Dick
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Night
Non
Stop

RyokoTK posted:

Don't ever back away from Maria, she has a lot of attacks that are designed to punish you for cowardice. She does have fairly low poise and almost all of her attacks have reasonable parry windows, so the trick is to either parry one of her attacks, or dodge forward through one of her attacks and punish her. Because she is easily staggered, a fast weapon can parlay any of those into considerable damage on her. I don't know how she's not like any other Hunter fight, she's aggressive but can be parried relentlessly, exactly the same as Gascoigne from a million hours ago. The only difference is her wide AOE on her attacks, but most of those are mitigated by just getting up in her fuckin' face.

I'm not sure what mechanics you're talking about that are useful but not necessary, because that fight is pretty straightforward to me.

Parrying. I'm terrible at it, but it's not really necessary for any of the other bosses like it is for her. I had the same problem with Gwyn at the end of the first Dark Souls. I'm used to using a slow, heavy character (I've generally stuck to the transformed Kirkhammer), and after that's worked for the entire game it's just not a viable option for this one fight. If she were a little slower like Gascoigne or the other Hunter fights it wouldn't be a problem. Instead I'm just bashing my head against this battle again and again and again.

E:

Krinkle posted:

I'd give advice on maria but to me the game is summon a buddy and go nuts taking turns on trading aggro back and forth. I get how doing it by yourself could be "satisfying" but this is the price you pay by going it alone. Until that satisfying moment you get a hell ride where only you are to blame for loving up!

I get plenty satisfied with jolly cooperation. Especially in the DLC because holy gently caress those bosses are dicks.

I would do this if I had PS+

RyokoTK
Feb 12, 2012

I am cool.

GIANT OUIJA BOARD posted:

Parrying. I'm terrible at it, but it's not really necessary for any of the other bosses like it is for her. I had the same problem with Gwyn at the end of the first Dark Souls. I'm used to using a slow, heavy character (I've generally stuck to the transformed Kirkhammer), and after that's worked for the entire game it's just not a viable option for this one fight. If she were a little slower like Gascoigne or the other Hunter fights it wouldn't be a problem. Instead I'm just bashing my head against this battle again and again and again.

You don't have to parry her, really. Like I said, she has low poise, so you can just dodge up into her face and wreck her poo poo.

The thing about Bloodborne is to remember that your weapon does have two forms, and it is so important to know when to use one or the other. Against fast enemies with low poise like Maria, use the sword form of the Kirkhammer; you can trap her into a corner and dump your entire stamina bar on her before she can break out, and you don't commit to the slow hammer swings that she can punish you with. You can't just swing the hammer at her all day because she will eat you alive.

My first DLC playthrough I used the Whirligig, and I found that the pizzacutter was a little too slow against her for my taste, so I just used the club form and bashed her face in with it. I didn't hardly parry much at all; I didn't need to, because the club is quick enough to punish most of her attacks.

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

Last Celebration posted:

I can't look it up right now, but I'd assume it's to match up with Zero Mission's design for her, which I think came out after Prime 1 and started the whole skintight spacesuit thing that Other M went all in on.

Basically. After prime they told the prime crew they wanted one singular "look" for samus from now on so they had to make her an anime, IIRC they told them this halfway through prime 2 so they had to scrap their model mid-development which is why the prime 2 model looks especially freaky.

Pretty much everything else comes down to Sakamoto who is a really weird creep who, in early interviews, not only took sole credit for creating the character but would tell people he was "the only person who knew where samus' mole was" which given the official art seemed like a real skeevy wink-wink it's in a dirty place sort of thing. Then other M comes out and its just on her face :effort:.

Based on what I've read he was also the reason a lot of Corruption got hosed with too because Nintendo kept stepping in and telling them to cut features they'd wanted to impliment and the result was the weakest of the trilogy because there's a bunch of poo poo that goes nowhere due to that.

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

Krinkle posted:

I'd give advice on maria but to me the game is summon a buddy and go nuts taking turns on trading aggro back and forth. I get how doing it by yourself could be "satisfying" but this is the price you pay by going it alone. Until that satisfying moment you get a hell ride where only you are to blame for loving up!

I get plenty satisfied with jolly cooperation. Especially in the DLC because holy gently caress those bosses are dicks.

Yeah I've always done everything solo my first time through these games as sort of a personal challenge and then co-op later once I know I can do it myself, but I broke that rule for ludwig because I was really losing patience for the DLC at that point and the boss combined so many pet peeves of mine I just wanted to get past it. Much of the DLC felt like an unrewarding slog to me.

Maria didn't seem so bad though. The fight was seriously dragged down due to a dumbass problem that is everywhere in the game where staggers/parries don't trigger until a moment after the enemy actually gets hit which means you frequently get hit by the same attack you parry and lose your visceral, but nothing specific to the fight itself seemed wrong.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

Leal posted:

All of them that "censored" the game just has a sticky note from the creator in the game's forums on steam with a download link to an uncensor patch. I don't understand why steam bothers telling them to censor the game but be completely cool with them putting an uncensor patch right on the game's discussion page but I don't get paid a billion dollars a year to not make video games so what do I know :shobon:

Because it lets them claim plausible deniability that they're not selling pornography if it's one step removed. Like why The Saboteur had free DLC for nudity. They could get an M rating since the nudity was technically optional dlc you actively had to choose to buy.

Lunchmeat Larry
Nov 3, 2012

rodbeard posted:

I feel like braid started the trend of indie games putting more effort into being artistic than they do in to being fun.
I really didn’t enjoy Braid, I guess it was pretty but the art style didn’t do anything for me, the actual gameplay was floaty and sluggish which I really hate in platformers, and the idiotic extremely deep plot made my brain leak out of my ears. I guess maybe I didn’t play long enough to see the cooler puzzles people talk about, but I’m okay with that I think. I like plenty of indie games so I feel like Braid just wasn't that good.

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

🐘🪠🍆

Lunchmeat Larry posted:

I really didn’t enjoy Braid, I guess it was pretty but the art style didn’t do anything for me, the actual gameplay was floaty and sluggish which I really hate in platformers, and the idiotic extremely deep plot made my brain leak out of my ears. I guess maybe I didn’t play long enough to see the cooler puzzles people talk about, but I’m okay with that I think. I like plenty of indie games so I feel like Braid just wasn't that good.

I can see a terrible plot being a problem in a story-focused game but in Braid it's mostly contained in the books between levels, so you can totally ignore it and just do the puzzles.

Although if you don't like the actual gameplay either then that doesn't help so much...

Lunchmeat Larry
Nov 3, 2012

RPATDO_LAMD posted:

I can see a terrible plot being a problem in a story-focused game but in Braid it's mostly contained in the books between levels, so you can totally ignore it and just do the puzzles.

Although if you don't like the actual gameplay either then that doesn't help so much...

Yeah, pretty much, it was ignoreable until I realised that I wasn’t enjoying myself generally, which is where it just became an added annoyance.

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

Inco posted:

I paid $5 for Other M and I still felt like I got ripped off. Enemies that attack from offscreen, lovely combat that has all the depth of a petri dish, and the unbelievable awkwardness of controlling a character in 3D space with a digital input is way worse than a game whose designer's reach exceeded their grasp. Metroid 2's flaws were a result of trying to accommodate the Game Boy's hardware, and would be great with a larger resolution, more tile sets, and a map. Other M's flaws are from being shittily designed.

The gameplay would have been okay except for the horrible implementation of the missiles. For those who don't know, most of the time you held the wii remote like an NES controller to jump, shoot and etc. But if you wanted to fire missiles you had to point it at the screen and use motion controls. This froze you in place which kinda sucked when your main defense in the game was dodging.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

GIANT OUIJA BOARD posted:

In Blood Borne: The Old Hunters, Lady Maria is just the absolute worst. She doesn't play a goddamn thing like any other boss fight in the game, relies on mechanics that are useful but not really necessary anywhere else in the game, and has at least one combo that is essentially a one-hit KO as she will hit you as soon as you are able to stand back up. I have been playing this three minute fight again and again for several hours now.
So what can you do about a problem like Maria?

BlueKingBar
Jan 25, 2016

Hey guys let's just literally never talk to me again maybe that'll fix things

Sleeveless posted:

Before Braid the indie games market was basically nothing but Newgrounds trash, I'd take pretentiousness over dicks, farts, and anime porn any day.

Was Braid really the game that made indie gaming popular? If anything I'd say Minecraft or even Spelunky had a much bigger role in getting indie games to be fun.

After Braid came out it just became Newgrounds Flash games with edgy metaphors and dead girlfriends instead of 13-year-old humor.

Elfface
Nov 14, 2010

Da-na-na-na-na-na-na
IRON JONAH
Wasn't Braid the game that got Microsoft to raise the price limit on indie games for their marketplace? I remember something about that, but my google-fu is weak.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Leal posted:

All of them that "censored" the game just has a sticky note from the creator in the game's forums on steam with a download link to an uncensor patch. I don't understand why steam bothers telling them to censor the game but be completely cool with them putting an uncensor patch right on the game's discussion page but I don't get paid a billion dollars a year to not make video games so what do I know :shobon:

Because Steam doesn't actually care about the content, they just don't want to be seen as a store that sells porn games.

rodbeard posted:

I feel like braid started the trend of indie games putting more effort into being artistic than they do in to being fun.

Braid is a solid enough puzzle platformer with a neat little gotcha twist at the end.

You can ignore all the books and poo poo that leads to the nukes pretty easily and it's a good game.

Aphrodite has a new favorite as of 17:03 on Feb 9, 2016

AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

...

GARVASE DAY!

Aphrodite posted:

Because Steam doesn't actually care about the content, they just don't want to be seen as a store that sells porn games.

By who? Because from what I can tell the general attitude in this very conversation is "smdh Steam sells porn now".

Inco
Apr 3, 2009

I have been working out! My modem is broken and my phone eats half the posts I try to make, including all the posts I've tried to make here. I'll try this one more time.

The Moon Monster posted:

The gameplay would have been okay except for the horrible implementation of the missiles. For those who don't know, most of the time you held the wii remote like an NES controller to jump, shoot and etc. But if you wanted to fire missiles you had to point it at the screen and use motion controls. This froze you in place which kinda sucked when your main defense in the game was dodging.

That wouldn't keep the combat from being extremely shallow. It feels like Team Ninja wanted to make a character action game in the vein of Ninja Gaiden, but they were hamstrung by the control scheme (thanks, Sakamoto). Every instance of the combat in the game is basically "shoot poo poo with lasers until you can jump on the enemy's head and execute it". There are basically 5 combat manoeuvres in the game, and no combo attacks, so the game is stuck in this awkward limbo of being a Metroid game without exploration and terrible platforming controls, and a character action game with lovely combat.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Last Celebration posted:

I can't look it up right now, but I'd assume it's to match up with Zero Mission's design for her, which I think came out after Prime 1 and started the whole skintight spacesuit thing that Other M went all in on.

Pretty much, though Metroid Prime 3 went the route of putting everyone in the skin-tight latex outside of their power armor, men and women.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

FactsAreUseless posted:

So what can you do about a problem like Maria?

Hold the Moonlight Greatsword in your hand.

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.

AlphaKretin posted:

By who? Because from what I can tell the general attitude in this very conversation is "smdh Steam sells porn now".

By all the normal people who didn't pay 10 dollars to post on an Internet forum about how much they hate those drat anime porn games and here's what they're called and how much they cost and how to remove the censoring gosh I just hate that anime so much guys let's talk about it some more

GIANT OUIJA BOARD
Aug 22, 2011

177 Years of Your Dick
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FactsAreUseless posted:

So what can you do about a problem like Maria?

I can sure bitch about it real good :v:
Seriously though it required a big shake-up in my tactics (and abuse of the Augur of Ebrietas). I can understand why they would put a boss fight like that in, but I just don't like that fight.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Oxxidation posted:

Hold the Moonlight Greatsword in your hand.
lmao

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


What the hell happened to Yuna between FFX and FFX-2? Her outfit makes no sense.

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

Len posted:

What the hell happened to Yuna between FFX and FFX-2? Her outfit makes no sense.

NOMUUUUURRAAAAAAA! :argh:

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Len posted:

What the hell happened to Yuna between FFX and FFX-2? Her outfit makes no sense.

She became a woman

BlueKingBar
Jan 25, 2016

Hey guys let's just literally never talk to me again maybe that'll fix things
Speaking of which, you know that stupid poo poo where a female protagonist gets more and more sexualized as she gets more sequels? I loving hate the Japanese version of that where for whatever reason women age in reverse because apparently the entirety of Japan is filled with pedophiles.

See: Athena in King of Fighters, Fei-Yen in Virtual On.

rodbeard
Jul 21, 2005

It's a good thing there were only two parasite eve games.

Sleeveless
Dec 25, 2014

by Pragmatica

BlueKingBar posted:

Speaking of which, you know that stupid poo poo where a female protagonist gets more and more sexualized as she gets more sequels? I loving hate the Japanese version of that where for whatever reason women age in reverse because apparently the entirety of Japan is filled with pedophiles.

See: Athena in King of Fighters, Fei-Yen in Virtual On.

If Ashley in Mass Effect 1-3, Kerrigan in Starcraft, and Cortana in Halo are any indication we really don't have the right to look down on Japan for that.

BlueKingBar
Jan 25, 2016

Hey guys let's just literally never talk to me again maybe that'll fix things

Sleeveless posted:

If Ashley in Mass Effect 1-3, Kerrigan in Starcraft, and Cortana in Halo are any indication we really don't have the right to look down on Japan for that.

That's not what I meant. Here are the characters I was talking about :



->

To clarify: I meant making them look like literal children or preteens, not just making them younger or prettier.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
I can't tell if that's a human sized robot or a mecha with a human pilot. Either way, I'm jacking off to it.

Inco
Apr 3, 2009

I have been working out! My modem is broken and my phone eats half the posts I try to make, including all the posts I've tried to make here. I'll try this one more time.
Jesus, the final boss of Bowser's Inside Story is loving terrible. You have to attack Dark Bowser enough times to make Fawful vulnerable, then vacuum Fawful so Mario & Luigi can fight him. Then you have to take out Fawful's three legs so the core can be hit, but the legs will dodge your attacks unless you destroy Fawful's two eyes. That's 6 targets to take down until you can actually do any damage to the final boss, and after a couple of turns, the whole thing starts over again.

I've been in this fight for 45 minutes. Luigi and Bowser are both incapable of dying in a single turn unless I don't make any attempt to defend. I have an item stockpile a doomsday prepper would get rock hard over. I can't lose. It's boring as gently caress.

RyokoTK
Feb 12, 2012

I am cool.
actually that fight owns

Sic Semper Goon
Mar 1, 2015

Eu tu?

:zaurg:

Switchblade Switcharoo

rodbeard posted:

It's a good thing there were only two parasite eve games.

Parasite Eve 1, 2 and the 3rd Birthday?

EDIT: Whoops, missed the context. :downsgun:

Sic Semper Goon has a new favorite as of 07:34 on Feb 10, 2016

AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

...

GARVASE DAY!

Sic Semper Goon posted:

Parasite Eve 1, 2 and the 3rd Birthday?

:thejoke:, 3rd Birthday was, from what I hear, loving shameful, both in the sense of being a satisfying sequel to the PE games and "the main character who is possessed by a minor takes clothing damage that makes her almost naked."

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Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
3rd birthday is one of the WORST and most insulting games in any franchise, the gameplay is kind of ok but everything around it just makes me want to strangle someone moreso as a fan of Aya.

Its real loving bad.

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