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SpaceGoatFarts posted:It's really sad because it's both an opportunity to create more jobs and to help local food producers (thus helping economic growth) which is something a smart politician could see if he wasn't already drowning in bribes from the food industry. Here read the summary of the evaluation of the 2009-2015 period of my states new legislation and action and make yourself feel some hope for humanity: http://education.qld.gov.au/schools/healthy/docs/evaluationsummary.pdf
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GOTTA STAY FAI posted:How the gently caress are Chicken-O's still a thing, that was a loophole someone should've closed ages ago They're called "chicken rings" buddy. 
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Gridlocked posted:In my state here in the Kangarooland the government passed new legislation removing the majority of that sort of crap from school tuck-shops while I was in high school, bit of a blow then cause sometimes you really wanted that greesy meat pie; but now I look at it as a good thing for the kids. In my school, a lot of kids just walked down to the nearby fish and chip shop for lunch anyway. Not that you couldn't get meat pies and hash browns and other delicious foods from the canteen anyway, but for $2 you could either have one meat pie and a couple of lollies or enough chips for you and two friends.
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Tiggum posted:In my school, a lot of kids just walked down to the nearby fish and chip shop for lunch anyway. Not that you couldn't get meat pies and hash browns and other delicious foods from the canteen anyway, but for $2 you could either have one meat pie and a couple of lollies or enough chips for you and two friends. Pretty much the same here yeah. But the teachers wised up within the first week and just had one of the ones on lunch duty hang out on the corner so as soon as you walked out you got slapped with a "get back inside or detention for you". Obviously the ones who didn't give a gently caress just ignored them; but after that point it was the school based police officers truancy issue not the teachers.
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Feb 9, 2016 17:07
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You have to pay for the school lunch? It's just easier to make it subscription based so you don't give any money to the kids.
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Feb 9, 2016 17:10
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SpaceGoatFarts posted:You have to pay for the school lunch? It's just easier to make it subscription based so you don't give any money to the kids. There are no "school lunches" in Australia. Schools run canteens as a fund-raising activity. More recently, I've heard, they do run breakfast and lunch programs for kids whose parents aren't feeding them enough, but that was never a thing when I was at school. In primary school the canteen was open two days a week and you'd put your lunch order in in the morning (with your money in an envelope, provide your own waxed paper bag with your order written on it) and have it delivered at lunch time. In highschool it was every day and you'd just go up and order from the window.
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Feb 9, 2016 17:16
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Tiggum posted:There are no "school lunches" in Australia. Schools run canteens as a fund-raising activity. More recently, I've heard, they do run breakfast and lunch programs for kids whose parents aren't feeding them enough, but that was never a thing when I was at school. In primary school the canteen was open two days a week and you'd put your lunch order in in the morning (with your money in an envelope, provide your own waxed paper bag with your order written on it) and have it delivered at lunch time. In highschool it was every day and you'd just go up and order from the window. Ah the good old days. Of course my mother never let me get anything and sent me to school with a packed lunch every day till I was 12 because she was serious about eating healthy ever since I was a kid. The most I got was a packet of Tiny Teddies. Meanwhile there was the ultra-bogan guy who's mother "volunteered" in the tuck-shop 4 times a week and always saved him and his 2 siblings a pie/sausage roll/can of coke from the limited supplies. Gridlocked has a new favorite as of 17:29 on Feb 9, 2016 |
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SpaceGoatFarts posted:You have to pay for the school lunch? It's just easier to make it subscription based so you don't give any money to the kids. How would I have bought weed from 9-10 grade if I couldn't just skip paid lunch every day
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Feb 9, 2016 17:30
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Also so not to detract from the thread content of AFP and not "WTF AUSTRALIA" talk please allow me to dirrect you all back to a beloved AFP Classic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AO4bS1DH0o
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McSpergin posted:Anti-Food Porn Thread: what the gently caress is a soylent The short version is it's a meal replacement invented by Rob Rhinehart. He's a hipster software engineer obsessed with having maximum efficiency in his life, like sleeping the absolute minimum amount needed to keep his brain running. He considered traditional meals to take too long and be too inefficient to satisfy his working, so he created a soy-based powdered shake that could function as a 100% replacement for normal food. Reviews vary, but a lot of people agree that it's virtually tasteless at best and outright disgusting at worst. It does seem to function as an adequate meal replacement and you can survive a fairly long time on it, but you're probably going to start missing regular food after a while. He envisions a future where eating real food is treated like going out for drinks is today: an occasional treat. Of course, nobody's going to do that because giving up steak and Chipotle and cedar-plank salmon and all that other wonderful stuff is bullshit that only weirdos obsessed with maximum efficiency want. It doesn't help that they've got a notorious problem with lovely manufacturing standards; even a positive review of it that I found a while back mentioned the dusty floors of the warehouse they were packing it in and the general lack of attempts at sterilization or hygiene. Mold doesn't surprise me at all.
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chitoryu12 posted:The short version is it's a meal replacement invented by Rob Rhinehart. He's a hipster software engineer obsessed with having maximum efficiency in his life, like sleeping the absolute minimum amount needed to keep his brain running. He considered traditional meals to take too long and be too inefficient to satisfy his working, so he created a soy-based powdered shake that could function as a 100% replacement for normal food. Reviews vary, but a lot of people agree that it's virtually tasteless at best and outright disgusting at worst. It does seem to function as an adequate meal replacement and you can survive a fairly long time on it, but you're probably going to start missing regular food after a while. You're our resident Military Meals buff chitoryu. Do you seriously see soylent going places as a full-on meal replacement within the industry that is probs the one who cares the most (i.e. military)? I personally think that if there was any real value at all to it being some hyper revolutionary thing they would have picked it up by now rather than the MRE and other military field rations they use now.
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Feb 9, 2016 17:44
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Peanut butter and jelly bacon burger Would once then never again
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Gridlocked posted:You're our resident Military Meals buff chitoryu. Besides, part of the goal of MREs is to provide a psychologically encouraging facsimile of home cooked items. Government issued cum shakes is a good way to encourage desertion.
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e:fb ^^^^^^^^^^^^Gridlocked posted:Do you seriously see soylent going places as a full-on meal replacement within the industry that is probs the one who cares the most (i.e. military)? I personally think that if there was any real value at all to it being some hyper revolutionary thing they would have picked it up by now rather than the MRE and other military field rations they use now. I'm not a military buff, but I think, at some point, the discussion probably eventually got to the point where the couple of accountants who were proposing the cost and space saving measure were summarily slapped down by a brigadier general who has actually been in the field and understands that you should probably do your best to provide moderately digestible meals to the very angry and well-trained men with guns. Morale is a thing.
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Before someone says, what do you mean MRE's are supposed to be real food, well sometimes the food scientists really nail it and make something kind of cool, but more often you need to desecrate a few eggs when making an omelette.
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Gridlocked posted:You're our resident Military Meals buff chitoryu. Military rations are already morale draining enough, making them eat a literally flavorless paste or whatever would be a disaster. edit: wow I had this screen open for a while i guess, beat several times over
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zedprime covered it well. We've spent billions of dollars over the past century trying to make our military rations taste better and have greater variety. Replacing decent and varied meals (modern MREs have 24 menus) with a tasteless paste would be the biggest morale drop possible outside of nerve gas attacks. The only country that could probably get away with it is North Korea because their soldiers would be desperate for anything.
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Feb 9, 2016 19:54
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Man why the gently caress am I getting vertigo from a school lunch tray. It's like baffle camo for bad food.
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poop dood posted:Man why the gently caress am I getting vertigo from a school lunch tray. It's like baffle camo for bad food. I'm assuming the empty round section is to hold all the tears.
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Soylent isn't a new idea, and it's hard to imagine it as anything other than trying to make an origin story for 'invention' first and then an Ensure knockoff second with how the 'development blog' featured a bunch of unnecessary trial and error, vitamin deficiencies that came and went impossibly fast, etc. Add in a lot of the startup shortcuts like ordering a bunch of lead tainted powders from China, shoddy manufacturing standards and hygiene, and innovative features like nothing in place to keep out mold. I'm sure it's great if you want to live off of robot cum because regular meal replacement shakes are too old fashioned.
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poop dood posted:Man why the gently caress am I getting vertigo from a school lunch tray. It's like baffle camo for bad food.
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"A smear: It's what's for lunch!" EorayMel posted:Peanut butter and jelly bacon burger I hate PB&J so a resounding no from me
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EorayMel posted:Peanut butter and jelly bacon burger Peanut butter on a burger is surprisingly tasty.
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Peanut and beef is a pretty common pairing in southeast Asian cuisine, isn't it?
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AnonSpore posted:Peanut and beef is a pretty common pairing in southeast Asian cuisine, isn't it? Southeast Asian cuisines love themselves some peanut sauce. Indonesia in particular is downright obsessed with it. Thai cuisine is one example of cuisine that adds roasted chopped peanuts to entrees. The key to peanut sauce is that it's not sweet. Peanut butter contains added sugar to make it sweet (which is why it pairs so well with chocolate), but peanut sauce adds the nutty flavor without the sweetness that would make you pause after eating a piece of chicken satay soaked in it.
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chitoryu12 posted:zedprime covered it well. We've spent billions of dollars over the past century trying to make our military rations taste better and have greater variety. Replacing decent and varied meals (modern MREs have 24 menus) with a tasteless paste would be the biggest morale drop possible outside of nerve gas attacks. The only country that could probably get away with it is North Korea because their soldiers would be desperate for anything. Yep,. NASA has spent megabucks trying to engineer foodlike space food because their research suggested that nutritional mush could literally be psychologically damaging for astronauts already removed from so much of normal life. But maybe Soylent proves that NASA has been hiring the wrong turbonerds?
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Trillian posted:Yep,. NASA has spent megabucks trying to engineer foodlike space food because their research suggested that nutritional mush could literally be psychologically damaging for astronauts already removed from so much of normal life. But maybe Soylent proves that NASA has been hiring the wrong turbonerds? One of my favorite space food stories is that South Korea spent millions of dollars to develop a form of space kimchi. They wanted it to be totally sterile and bacteria-free without compromising on the taste and texture AND have a long enough shelf life for space travel. Millions of dollars just so the first Korean astronaut could bring his food from home.
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I tried to make pancakes for the first time today! My second attempt turned out alright, but my first one...
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How did you fail so hard at pancakes? Did the first one owe you money?
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Butt Detective posted:I tried to make pancakes for the first time today! My second attempt turned out alright, but my first one... You tried to flip too early didn't you?
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Soylent is a nice little symbol of how hosed things are because tech startup people think that being good with computers means they're experts in literally every other thing, from nutrition to education to politics.
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Aesop Poprock posted:How did you fail so hard at pancakes? Did the first one owe you money? Looks like they might have started from cold, so it didn't cook fast/right, and they tried to flip it?
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Sleeveless posted:Soylent is a nice little symbol of how hosed things are because tech startup people think that being good with computers means they're experts in literally every other thing, from nutrition to education to politics. Isn't it under investigation for having far too many heavy metals and lead in it right now, and that it could cause some serious deficiencies because the guy didn't even bother to consult an actual nutritionist and just threw some random from China supplements into a bag together?
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chitoryu12 posted:One of my favorite space food stories is that South Korea spent millions of dollars to develop a form of space kimchi. They wanted it to be totally sterile and bacteria-free without compromising on the taste and texture AND have a long enough shelf life for space travel. Millions of dollars just so the first Korean astronaut could bring his food from home. That is awesome. I googled because I was curious how a fermented food could be bacteria-free, but indeed, it is irradiated space kimchi. Also: "We managed to reduce the smell by one-third or by half." I bet the Korean astronaut was still unpopular.
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chitoryu12 posted:One of my favorite space food stories is that South Korea spent millions of dollars to develop a form of space kimchi. They wanted it to be totally sterile and bacteria-free without compromising on the taste and texture AND have a long enough shelf life for space travel. Millions of dollars just so the first Korean astronaut could bring his food from home.  Her food from home! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yi_So-yeon
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Horrible Smutbeast posted:Isn't it under investigation for having far too many heavy metals and lead in it right now, and that it could cause some serious deficiencies because the guy didn't even bother to consult an actual nutritionist and just threw some random from China supplements into a bag together? A non-profit organization filed an intent to sue over Soylent not adequately labeling that it has lead and cadmium under California's Proposition 65. The amount is allowable, but only because the food laws are for stuff that's eaten on occasion. Soylent is a good deal more dangerous than expected because it's meant to be eaten in huge amounts as exclusive sustenance, so any otherwise minor toxicity is a different beast altogether.
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chitoryu12 posted:A non-profit organization filed an intent to sue over Soylent not adequately labeling that it has lead and cadmium under California's Proposition 65. The amount is allowable, but only because the food laws are for stuff that's eaten on occasion. Soylent is a good deal more dangerous than expected because it's meant to be eaten in huge amounts as exclusive sustenance, so any otherwise minor toxicity is a different beast altogether. Its also made in a crazy engineer's shack with no real oversight and no real training or expertise. One of his earlier rounds of soylent nearly put him in the hospital for anemia because, in his zeal to spike soylent with the power of goji berries or some such bullshit, he forgot that we need IRON to function. This is the same man that tried to kill off all his gut flora so he wouldn't need to waste time pooping. He is not well-versed in human health or nutrition.
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There are other products that do what soylent aims to do while actually having standards and nutritionists involved. I tasted 100% Food once and it was pretty good. It's still a pretty niche product but it tastes better than pretty much any meal or protein drink I've ever tasted, if it was less expensive I wouldn't mind having a few servings around for when I'm too tired or in pain to make something better.
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Butt Detective posted:I tried to make pancakes for the first time today! My second attempt turned out alright, but my first one...  It looks like chicken. This is a good post.
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Aesop Poprock posted:How did you fail so hard at pancakes? Did the first one owe you money? The first pancake always turns out badly but at least you can then eat it while you cook the rest of the batch 
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