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If I remember correctly I first picked those from pack 2 and 3.
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The actual human tribal deck is U/W equipment featuring INVISIBLE STALKER!!!
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Feb 10, 2016 05:59
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Kind of late but BR can be really good if you just go balls deep and chain a ton of Bump in The Nights. One of the funniest drafts I did in triple was RB with 3 bumps and 2 brimstone volleys. Fires of Undeath
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Feb 10, 2016 06:00
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The little blue mana dork is actually way more playable than he looks, and the self mill Horned Turtle is actually really close to top tier.Everblight posted:I still don't quite get how that deck works. You're still drawing a card every turn, so you will deck out about as fast as they will. You lose if they have a single Mental Note or whatever. Yeah this is first pickable for sure, and it was really fun in Burning Vengeance which probably isn't really a good deck so much as it was a fun deck.
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Feb 10, 2016 06:03
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It was INNx3 Though my other favorite funniest draft ever was with dark ascension. I used Trepenation blade, which was called a bad card and then milled all of my friends cards. For 6 turns in a row he drew lands. No we didnt misread the card, he just had bad luck. He had some flashbacks but the landscrew put him kind of on tilt and he lost. It is a bad card but it was worth it. Bread Set Jettison fucked around with this message at 06:09 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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Feb 10, 2016 06:03
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Travel Preparation on to Orchard Spirit is without a doubt the strongest thing you can be doing but it's not remotely the most fun thing to be doing.
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Feb 10, 2016 06:06
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rabidsquid posted:Travel Preparation on to Orchard Spirit is without a doubt the strongest thing you can be doing but it's not remotely the most fun thing to be doing. I never got the point of giving Orchard Spirit flying in all but name like how come MARO doesn't complain about that breaking the pie, is all you have to do really just write out the reminder text instead of the keyword
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Feb 10, 2016 06:10
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And cards like Bonds of Faith were why INNx3 was so fun. There was so many lines of play with relatively straightforward cards. Yeah it was removal 90% of the time, but that one time you put it on an invisible stalker to win the game was the best.
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Feb 10, 2016 06:10
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mandatory lesbian posted:I never got the point of giving Orchard Spirit flying in all but name I'm fairly certain MaRo has stated that Orchard Spirit breaks the color pie. He has strong opinions but he actually does tend to be internally consistent.
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Feb 10, 2016 06:14
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mandatory lesbian posted:I never got the point of giving Orchard Spirit flying in all but name He actually dislikes Birchlore Rangers and its ilk to be fair Bread Set Jettison posted:And cards like Bonds of Faith were why INNx3 was so fun. There was so many lines of play with relatively straightforward cards. Yeah it was removal 90% of the time, but that one time you put it on an invisible stalker to win the game was the best. gently caress invisible stalker with a rusty nail though especially with butcher's cleaver
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Feb 10, 2016 06:15
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Bonds of Faith was actually a pretty cool card because it made this interesting little sub game if it was your only removal against Werewolves. Cleaver on to Stalker really wasn't that bad because Stalker was a dude who absolutely had to be suited up otherwise he was way too slow of a clock. Cleaver on to Doomed Traveler, now that was gas. Doomed Traveler was always good and if you had a Butcher's Cleaver he was double the value!
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Feb 10, 2016 06:18
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rabidsquid posted:Bonds of Faith was actually a pretty cool card because it made this interesting little sub game if it was your only removal against Werewolves. Cleaver/Stalker was the worst interaction in the format because you would just lose some games without even feeling like you had a chance.
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Feb 10, 2016 06:21
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Actually maybe you should have drafted your own Invisible Stalker and Sever the Bloodline to play around it. Also Tribute to Hunger was a thing. It was rare to have a board full of dudes and a suited up Invisible Stalker facing you down. edit: Rolling Temblor, Blasphemous Act.
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Feb 10, 2016 06:24
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so for answers we have: red uncommon, red rare, black uncommon(assuming they had nothing else). Maybe my perception was colored by the multiple times I played against turn 2 stalker turn 3 cleaver and was just drawing dead at that point.
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You're unironically citing card rarity in the answers and then straight faced citing a much lower probability situation to be in.
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Feb 10, 2016 06:35
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Terrible Horse posted:There are definitely INNx3 cubes, you have to curate it a bit though (1x every rare, 3x every common or whatever) I have one of these that we break out whenever we want something different from our usual cube. I currently have 1x rares/mythics, 2x uncommons and 4x commons of the set exactly as printed. We keep them separated by rarity, shuffle them up and sort them into packs and toss in a random DFC (which I keep in clear sleeves so they're as visible during the draft as they are in a real draft). This has served well enough, but I doubt it's ideal. I've thought about cutting mythics entirely (since as it is they show up more often than they would in a real draft), adding more of the uncommons that certain popular archetypes absolutely require, and/or tossing in a few DKA cards to bring BW up to par with some of the other combinations. Oh, right, and cutting down on Invisible Stalkers because one dude always ends up with both of them every time... But it's not too pricy to get together (if you already have any of the cards you'd particularly want to still have from ISD, the rest costs less than the sleeves it goes in), and even a less-than-optimized triple ISD draft is a lot smoother and more fun than most sets in my opinion.
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Feb 10, 2016 06:42
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rabidsquid posted:You're unironically citing card rarity in the answers and then straight faced citing a much lower probability situation to be in. I mean, you're at least partially right. This wasn't some sort of huge, format-killing issue and was probably less common than my memory insists it was. It was, however, a very frustrating situation when it came up.
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Elyv posted:so for answers we have: red uncommon, red rare, black uncommon(assuming they had nothing else). are we really pretending that like there wasn't common removal in every color that deal with a t2 stalker, turn 3 cleaver, turn 4 suit him up? silent departure claustrophobia dead weight tragic slip victim of night geistflame prey upon smite the monstrous like those are all commons off the top of my head, I'm sure there's more, those are just what I remember from playing the game back then. Granted smite only hits him once he's suited up (maximum tempo play anyways) and silent departure is sub-optimal as a defensive spell but there's other ways to deal with him too, like the various shatter/naturalize effects (ancient grudge and I think actually just naturalize, right?), and then there are uncommons and rares he was a top line play with cleaver but he wasn't unbeatable.
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Feb 10, 2016 07:03
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You're Boy the Human Rogue is hexproof. edit: But requiring uncommon removal for a line of play that requires a pair of uncommons on a perfect curve isn't that unreasonable. I am sure I had more misers Rolling Temblors than I saw Invisible Stalkers Cleavered up on t4. Also there was even stupid poo poo like Frightful Delusion or w/e, I think basically every color combination could deal with this in some reasonable way. rabidsquid fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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Feb 10, 2016 07:04
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ooooh shiiiittttt. I forgot about that. I haven't drafted teh set since DKA first launched, I just remember all the removal
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Feb 10, 2016 07:29
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I don't understand why people complain about Bogles just Doom Blade it idiot.
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Feb 10, 2016 07:32
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Invisible Stalker and Butcher Cleaver was loving awful to play against. People pretending that the 3 answers in the format were enough are delusional.
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suicidesteve posted:I don't understand why people complain about Bogles just Doom Blade it idiot. Not a good card, it dies to removal. Like in one local draft of INNx3 a while back, where I had a sweet R/B deck with a ton of removal and good creatures and was 2-0 going into the finals. Got paired down somehow (Think it was a 9 man pod or something). Game 1: Him: Turn 2 Stalker, Turn 3 Equipment. Me: Hand full of removal and good creatures, cant race when he just plays (relatively to what I have) bad creatures and just chump blocks to victory. Game 2: Him: Turn 3 Stalker, Turn 4 Equipment. Me: How many of those do you have?? Him: One each. The rest of my deck is bad.
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Feb 10, 2016 07:41
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STiL. posted:Invisible Stalker and Butcher Cleaver was loving awful to play against. People pretending that the 3 answers in the format were enough are delusional. Same thing with Drana. Good luck having an answer to this unbeatable card.
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Feb 10, 2016 07:42
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logis posted:Not a good card, it dies to removal. One time I was playing beer pong and two friends got mad at each other and one slapped the other one straight across the face, knocking his glasses off which flew perfectly into his outstretched hand and it defused the situation and everyone laughed. Sound unlikely? You'd be surprised but this actually happens 100% of the time in the story.
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Feb 10, 2016 07:46
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Sigma-X posted:are we really pretending that like there wasn't common removal in every color that deal with a t2 stalker, turn 3 cleaver, turn 4 suit him up? The reason he is good is because he has hexproof AlternateNu posted:I've been out of the loop for the last couple weeks outside of catching peaks of the PT last weekend. Because Archangel of Thune and Spike Feeder is infinite life. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Feb 11, 2016 |
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Feb 10, 2016 09:58
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Sigma-X posted:are we really pretending that like there wasn't common removal in every color that deal with a t2 stalker, turn 3 cleaver, turn 4 suit him up? ugh I hate you
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Feb 10, 2016 10:01
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I actually prefer a long list of removal that doesn't hit the hexproof guy to "One time I was at a traffic light and an Invisible Stalker STOLE THE WHEELS OFF MY CAR" urban legends
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Feb 10, 2016 10:11
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Based on the fantastic baseless/joking speculation for the new set and how the thread's ideas seemed too fun to actually see print in any real set, I have made a Thing for people to shove in their custom cubes or whatever.   
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Feb 10, 2016 13:07
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Haha I like that ult
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Feb 10, 2016 14:13
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Gideon, Ally of Zendikar in the Battlefield Forge with the Captain's Claws.
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kas posted:Based on the fantastic baseless/joking speculation for the new set and how the thread's ideas seemed too fun to actually see print in any real set, I have made a Thing for people to shove in their custom cubes or whatever.
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Feb 10, 2016 14:32
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So I threw together the U/W bounce n blink deck from MTG Goldfish last night. I absolutely love it so far - Eldrazi Displacer + Thought-Knot is super gross, and the Reflector Mage synergy is pretty sweet as well. It's not too hot against token based strategies or decks without a lot of creatures, but there's enough control pieces in the sideboard that it's not too hard to re-work the deck to accommodate that.
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rabidsquid posted:I actually prefer a long list of removal that doesn't hit the hexproof guy to "One time I was at a traffic light and an Invisible Stalker STOLE THE WHEELS OFF MY CAR" urban legends Invisible stalker + cleaver/silver-inlaid dagger loving sucked dude. There were common removal spells in ROE that could kill drana, induce despair, heat ray, flame slash, and all of those are just at common. Oust might give you enough time to win against her. Corpsehatch, another solid removal at uncommon. Even regress could buy you time. This isn't an "urban legend." I've fought against both situations and won against Drana more often than the stalker.
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Feb 10, 2016 15:20
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Invisible Stalker: more powerful in limited than Drana.
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Feb 10, 2016 15:22
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You can always just side in artifact removal game 2 and then they have a boring 1/1.
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Feb 10, 2016 15:24
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They also spend turns 2 and 3 doing actual nothing while curving out perfectly, although they do get to smash for 4 lifelink on turn 4 with 1 extra mana left over maybe!
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Feb 10, 2016 15:27
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someone still loves you invisible stalker
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Feb 10, 2016 15:35
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rabidsquid posted:They also spend turns 2 and 3 doing actual nothing while curving out perfectly, although they do get to smash for 4 lifelink on turn 4 with 1 extra mana left over maybe! Guy who never had his lunch money stolen by invis stalker spotted
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rabidsquid posted:Invisible Stalker: more powerful in limited than Drana. More than one thing can be bad hth.
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