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Although I have to say, I don't think the Pro Tour gauntlet is actually a good idea. It's like 20% playing Magic and 80% waiting around around; I have: Died Turn 3 four times (Death's Shadow turn 3 twice, opponent had it the other time, but I lived due to having Turn 3 Emrakul, also Faithless Looting, Goryo's Vengeance, Emrakul ) Died Turn 2 twice (SSG, Faithless Looting, Goryo's Vengeance) This is not going to make people think the format is fun. Particularly given that at least some of these decks are ruthlessly spiky and not necessary fun, like Burn.
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Ugh. I love getting Zoo for my Pro Tour Gauntlet, says no one ever. What a poo poo deck.
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Feb 10, 2016 23:34
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Angry Grimace posted:Although I have to say, I don't think the Pro Tour gauntlet is actually a good idea. It's like 20% playing Magic and 80% waiting around around; I have: That's the secret: Modern isn't fun.
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I really hope they don't react by banning SSG as well as Eye. I really don't think SSG is a problem, not that I'm biased or anything.
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En Fuego posted:Ugh. I love getting Zoo for my Pro Tour Gauntlet, says no one ever. Huh? It's pretty great and hugely explosive.
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Entropic posted:It seems like if you're going to be holding up two mana anyway, hallowed moonlight would be better.
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Feb 10, 2016 23:46
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A big flaming stink posted:In other news Owen Turtenwald is a whiny bitch. In which King Idiot Fucker Moron Owen Turtenwald talks poo poo about Relentless Rats
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A big flaming stink posted:In other news Owen Turtenwald is a whiny bitch. Well I'm glad he's already owned himself for us. 
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Feb 10, 2016 23:51
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Owen Turtenwald posted:I prefer games of Standard that have the possibility of dragging on
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Feb 10, 2016 23:53
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Angry Grimace posted:Reflector Mage chat: it is a mildly annoying card made legit annoying by virtue of the fact that its played primarily in a Magical Christmasland combo deck that exists because some idiot at WOTC was too drunk/high to figure out that typed duals that get better as you play the game were loving stupid with fetchlands. Do people really not like Rally? I think it's great that in a format of 4-colour good stuff decks, the best deck is a wacky combo deck full of bulk rares and draft leavings, and that the card that pushed it over the edge was designed to be a slightly better tempo play in limited. Plus it's a blast to play.
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A big flaming stink posted:In other news Owen Turtenwald is a whiny bitch. He's not wrong.
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based on the one time i met him i can definitely say that owen turtenwald is cooler than modern
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A big flaming stink posted:In other news Owen Turtenwald is a whiny bitch. Owen finished like, what 18th and is the No. 1 ranked player in the world? It sounds like he has a lot of legit gripes about the format. Barry Shitpeas posted:Do people really not like Rally? I think it's great that in a format of 4-colour good stuff decks, the best deck is a wacky combo deck full of bulk rares and draft leavings, and that the card that pushed it over the edge was designed to be a slightly better tempo play in limited. Plus it's a blast to play. It would be one thing if it was just Abzan, but 4 color Jace + Reflector Mage pushes it over the edge into being vaguely unreasonable, particularly given how many lines of play the opponent has to figure out. The big problem for me is that there aren't enough ways to disrupt its gameplan beyond "play white and play horrible answer Hallowed Moonlight" because a lot of the poo poo it does gives you super extra value like Collected Company does. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Feb 11, 2016 |
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Feb 11, 2016 00:15
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Owen might be whiny but he's 100% right here. Modern is a bad format.
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sarmhan posted:Owen might be whiny but he's 100% right here. Modern is a bad format. Well gently caress, standard is also bad and so few have the cards for legacy..... It's pauper pro tour time.
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Feb 11, 2016 00:21
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I thought it was fairly well established that most pros didn't like Modern as a PT format
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Here's my latest evolution of Eldrazi for legacy after trying a pure colourless version Monday night: 20 eldrazi 4 chalice 4 punishing fire 2 dismember 4 rg talisman 4 grove of the burnwillows 4 karplusan forest 4 eldrazi temple 4 eye of ugin 2 urborg 4 ancient tomb 2 mishra's factory SB choke reb other stuff
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Here's my latest evolution of Eldrazi for legacy after trying a pure colourless version Monday night: Is this mostly to get pfire as removal? I saw colorless eldrazi on CK stream, losing to rug delver round 1
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Pact of Negation (or any pact really) question, if the pact is countered, is the pay on upkeep or lose portion still active? If it is still active, what's the part of the rules that actually defines that it works that way?
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gwrtheyrn posted:Is this mostly to get pfire as removal? I saw colorless eldrazi on CK stream, losing to rug delver round 1 pfire is just really nice for the games that go long or if they somehow have a way to ignore/sidestep your creatures. The manabase also gets easier and you are less susceptible to wasteland.
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Barry Shitpeas posted:I thought it was fairly well established that most pros didn't like Modern as a PT format It's the same reason why it seems like so many pro players are "control specialists." Because the inherent advantage pros have is typically skill, but you don't use any of it where you lucksack into Emrakul swinging for 15 on Turn 2 involves nothing but luck. It's not like the Moley-guy that won necessarily made a bunch of really special plays, he just played the deck his team was all playing and got there (and all of them had a super high win percentage because they had a better metagame deck).
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mastermind2004 posted:Pact of Negation (or any pact really) question, if the pact is countered, is the pay on upkeep or lose portion still active? If it is still active, what's the part of the rules that actually defines that it works that way? If the pacts fail to resolve, you don't have to pay the costs.
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Oh, I see, I was confused because Hive Mind just copies, you don't actually cast the spell. I was trying to figure out why casting a Pact with Hive Mind and Chalice of the Void on 0 was lethal for the opponent when it was just going to be countered.
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Feb 11, 2016 00:47
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mastermind2004 posted:Oh, I see, I was confused because Hive Mind just copies, you don't actually cast the spell. I was trying to figure out why casting a Pact with Hive Mind and Chalice of the Void on 0 was lethal for the opponent when it was just going to be countered. I don't think it would be with Chalice on 0?
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Feb 11, 2016 00:59
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Here's my latest evolution of Eldrazi for legacy after trying a pure colourless version Monday night: Playing green and not being able to ancient stirrings seems really wrong, and not having more ways to hit T1 chalice seems wrong. Urborg seems underwhelming, maybe replace it with 2-3 Mox Diamond, nuke the talismans and replace them with Ancient Stirrings? That's 10 R/G sources instead of 12 but you get to play way better cards? Might need to tweak the colors a bit more. I would also consider warping wail or the +3/-3 card as nothing in legacy outside of goyf has 4 toughness and the 4 life off dismember is going to suck
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Angry Grimace posted:I don't think it would be with Chalice on 0? Chalice only triggers when a spell is cast, the copy from hive mind is put on the stack when the original is cast, so your opponent gets a copy that doesn't get hit by chalice.
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Literally The Worst posted:anyway i agree with owen Yeah same. modern is a loving mess. Modern desperately needs a functional control deck.
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I've been out of the loop for the last couple weeks outside of catching peaks of the PT last weekend. Can someone tell me why Archangel of Thune is $23 mid, now? Also, I like how flip Jace is floating at $80 mid. 
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Feb 11, 2016 02:36
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Yeah same. modern is a loving mess. Pretty much, but without a reliable, efficient source of card advantage that ain't happening, and they banned the last ones out.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Pretty much, but without a reliable, efficient source of card advantage that ain't happening, and they banned the last ones out. Unban everything, start from square one.
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Unban everything, start from square one. I would unironically support this for a season or two.
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Unban everything, start from square one. I hope you like nothing but hypergenesis and blazing shoal
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AlternateNu posted:I've been out of the loop for the last couple weeks outside of catching peaks of the PT last weekend. Sometimes gets used in chord decks. This time it was in an angel/feeder deck as a 4-of that went 9-1 in the constructed portion of the PT.
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Feb 11, 2016 03:22
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Apparently Christopher Rush, another Magic artist, has died. 
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A big flaming stink posted:I hope you like nothing but hypergenesis and blazing shoal No Ban List Modern is an actual thing and Hypergenesis, Shoal Infect, Affinity, RUG Delver, and Storm have all been known to put up results.
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bhsman posted:Apparently Christopher Rush, another Magic artist, has died. Not just "another Magic artist"! I mean,  
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Playing mardu in the gauntlet and beat ur eldrazi game 1. But the guy was pretty bad with the deck and looks like he kept some bad hands.
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