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Feb 10, 2016 06:01
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Augus posted:I ended up switching back to Marauder anyway, dungeons are cued up so much faster and it does feel more involved than DPSing to me, what with controlling enemy positioning and whatnot. Every boss should just be tanked stationary for 99.9% of all fights.
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Feb 10, 2016 06:37
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Kwyndig posted:The problem with huge ilevel boosts is that current content with something like 40 or 50 item levels worth of stat bonuses would be a goddamn cakewalk. Neverreap and Fractal are already getting ridiculous as more people push past i200, imagine the shitshow two patches from now with another 30 ilevels on average. You mean like when players were hitting i90+ and pushing through 2.0 dungeons without much effort? Lost City's Diablos fight went from "we hosed up doors it's a wipe" to "ok a DPS or healer might die" to "eh just DPS and ignore doors." New content comes out, older content gets easier as time goes by. This is not going to change and it was a given from the start that Neverfun and Fractal would be easy as hell when people moved on from babby's first 60 gear to lvl 60 raid/upgraded tomestone gear. Was it fun running Fractal 2 days after 3.0 came out and clearing it with a group of people who also just barely met the ilvl requirement? Sure. Do I want to go through that ever again at this point? Not a chance in hell.
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Feb 10, 2016 06:53
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Speaking of him, they need to use the Lost City Diabolos music for more bosses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy6YnCnc2wE Love that tune
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Choyi posted:NIN is good at burst DPS and not too far behind(or even on par with) MNK, Just do Doton > Kassatsu > Katon > Dagger aoe spam > Invigorate > katon > Dagger spam > etc. Just don't forget to throw in oGCD single target attacks and do a Armor break combo to not loose Huton. Kassatsu Doton. It is (24/3)*30 = 240 potency over its duration, compared to Katon's 180. And as mentioned, Kassatsu makes every tick of Doton crit. Maybe also throw in a B4B before starting Doton mudras to get maximum mileage. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 07:30 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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Feb 10, 2016 07:24
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Belzac posted:Every boss should just be tanked stationary for 99.9% of all fights. Bosses are like 5% of dungeons.
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Feb 10, 2016 07:57
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What's the positioning on trash besides pull all of it and then spam an aoe move?
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Feb 10, 2016 08:18
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Belzac posted:What's the positioning on trash besides pull all of it and then spam an aoe move? Half a tank's job is to dodge aoes while making sure the trash stays reasonably still, and I can see why some people would enjoy that more than playing a pure DPS class.
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Feb 10, 2016 08:27
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http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/39b281ab7ceec4e29728603154cb41e03aaf394e Looks like we might not need to beat story mode for savage this time.
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Feb 10, 2016 12:51
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Looks like a translation error actually. All three other languages have a different quest listed.
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Feb 10, 2016 13:35
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Burger McAngus posted:http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/39b281ab7ceec4e29728603154cb41e03aaf394e Was this actually a problem? Why would anyone doing savage not do the story mode. Unless the progression groups have all actually gone super nuts.
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Feb 10, 2016 14:05
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Rexicon1 posted:Was this actually a problem? Why would anyone doing savage not do the story mode. Unless the progression groups have all actually gone super nuts. as in, because story mode is available, clear that on your own time and spend group raiding time on savage instead you gotta clear normal (and to make it go fast enough, do it with all 8 members) and then you can actually do savage
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Feb 10, 2016 14:06
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ilifinicus posted:it's fairly annoying to have to clear normal before you can do real content What the gently caress is wrong with you people
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Feb 10, 2016 14:07
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Man. I'm so glad I stopped progression raiding. What an unfathomably abysmal time that was. loving having to worry about "wasting raid time".
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Feb 10, 2016 14:29
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What? You have scheduled times to play together as a group. If the content is easy enough that you don't need a full premade group there's no point in doing it during raid time.
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Feb 10, 2016 14:39
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Before this gets quickly buried:petcarcharodon posted:Looks like a translation error actually. All three other languages have a different quest listed. I just looked at the pages and sure enough they are listing different quest requirements in all but English. So more than likely it's the same pattern of doing story mode once and then you can Bard Mode to your heart's content.
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KaneTW posted:What? You have scheduled times to play together as a group. If the content is easy enough that you don't need a full premade group there's no point in doing it during raid time.
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Feb 10, 2016 14:45
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ilifinicus posted:it sure is when people you play with do not have time available to play until the moment raid time begins Sounds to me like your group isn't taking this progression thing seriously enough.
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Rexicon1 posted:Man. I'm so glad I stopped progression raiding. What an unfathomably abysmal time that was. loving having to worry about "wasting raid time". Fuckin' cheers. Vanilla WoW burned me on that enough for two lifetimes. "Here, herd 40 cats into perfect positioning and have them all pay total attention, know the fight, be geared with every piece possible from everything prior to that fight and add in a dash of RNG to whether or not some stupid mechanic just loving explodes the raid. Then, when you manage to kill the thing, fight over the loot with some sort of convoluted bidding system that I can't fathom anyone liked. Enjoy!" gently caress that forever.
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Feb 10, 2016 17:04
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you know this thread is terrible when there's a giant hulk goblin in one of those preview images and people would rather 'nuh-uh' back and forth at each other than mention how dope a giant hulk goblin is
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Brother Entropy posted:you know this thread is terrible when there's a giant hulk goblin in one of those preview images and people would rather 'nuh-uh' back and forth at each other than mention how dope a giant hulk goblin is 
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You better get to smash the mask (or at least the filter part) off the bigass goblin, I've been wanting to make a goblin breathe our filthy air since the first time I saw one.
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Talmonis posted:Fuckin' cheers. Vanilla WoW burned me on that enough for two lifetimes. "Here, herd 40 cats into perfect positioning and have them all pay total attention, know the fight, be geared with every piece possible from everything prior to that fight and add in a dash of RNG to whether or not some stupid mechanic just loving explodes the raid. Then, when you manage to kill the thing, fight over the loot with some sort of convoluted bidding system that I can't fathom anyone liked. Enjoy!" Need/Greed should be all we, well, need.
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Feb 10, 2016 17:42
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Person who doesn't progression raid should have no opinion on the gates put up for progression raiders. Stop being a little bitch Rexicon.
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Feb 10, 2016 18:05
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Patch note reading on the 15th, apparently? Edit: Apparently it is YoshiP walking around in game and doing things with people, not reading the notes?
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Brother Entropy posted:you know this thread is terrible when there's a giant hulk goblin in one of those preview images and people would rather 'nuh-uh' back and forth at each other than mention how dope a giant hulk goblin is I'm not sure I can handle the crimes against grammar that a Hulk goblin would bark out but I'd like to see it anyway.
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Ciaphas posted:Speaking of him, they need to use the Lost City Diabolos music for more bosses I'm just glad they removed Heavensward's mid-boss theme and brought back ARR's for the 3.1 dungeons. Hopefully we hear nemesis at least once.
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Feb 10, 2016 18:41
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Story mode was, and continues to be, a mistake.
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Feb 10, 2016 18:57
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How is it a mistake? It lets them make content that everyone can see, as opposed to Coil that only people raiding during 2.x will ever get to see.
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Xenoveritas posted:How is it a mistake? It lets them make content that everyone can see, as opposed to Coil that only people raiding during 2.x will ever get to see. It inconveniences statistically less than 10% of the player population.
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Feb 10, 2016 19:05
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Worrying about missing a day or two of Savage progression because THOSE FILTHY CASUALS seems pretty silly to me, especially since it'll be quite a few months before the third tier is added and Midas isn't going to be as terribly tuned as Gordias was.
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If story mode is seriously something you bemoan about "muh raid time" then quit your job while you're at it, thats also cutting into your raid time.
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Leal posted:If story mode is seriously something you bemoan about "muh raid time" then quit your job while you're at it, thats also cutting into your raid time. 3 steps ahead of you!
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Fister Roboto posted:Story mode was, and continues to be, a mistake. ...actually that doesn't sound so bad.
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I was super pumped to find out that I had to do Ramuh, Moggle Mogg, Shiva and Leviathan for the story. poo poo was fun.
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The mistake is it's baby content that they have to force people to run 800 times for them to recoup the time they took into making it. The story is meaningless this time around and the fights have nothing interesting in them to experience. It's just speed bump, waste your time, garbage that you will regret defending when you have to run A7 25 times in a row because your loving spring keeps getting stolen.
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Story mode is good to let people experience the story (wowzers) and there is nothing wrong with it existing. Story Mode being a lock to Savage is unnecessary and very funny because it makes people mad. World first progression raiders are extremely niche and there is no need to cater to them.
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I don't really think running through the storymode will take more than 30-40 minutes with our static and it will be interesting to see all of the fights. I also would be just as fine with being able to skip those and just get started on the first fight. I don't think it's a big deal to get worked up about, but I do think it would be a great option to have.
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The only one who is worked up about it is Vandes. There are many more things wrong with story mode that aren't "slightly inconveniences our first raid".
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