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uXs posted:Hunker down is obviously for when you don't want to get hit. Shooting is for that. You don't get shot if they're dead. (Except VIPs, I wish I could hand them a grenade or something)
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uXs posted:I don't get why soldier customization is a thing that unlocks gradually when they level up. Nicknames are about the only place where this makes some kind of sense. Is there a mod that unlocks that poo poo on everyone? (Except maybe rookies, I don't want to customize those besides make their armor hot pink.) Gotta earn your cool poo poo. Bandannas and tats are the medals and rank pins of the new XCOM! Also FradulentEconomics, a lot of your ideas are extremely powerful but I suppose making these "prestige class" equivalents is going to be a lengthy and expensive affair so I'm down with it. Losing an elite trooper with that much power is going to sting, and anything that makes your boys and girls more vital to the war effort is IMO in the spirit of XCOM.
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I actually really love the T3 weapons because I have a soft spot for beam style weapons that feel like they have a huge punch to them. That *VWOOOOM* charge cycle followed by the beam firing and blowing someone's loving face off is like audiovisual porn, and the heavy beam cannon looks amazing with tracer rounds in it because some of the beams will come out red. So much better than the Nickolodeon Gak plasma from EU/EW.
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Kanos posted:I actually really love the T3 weapons because I have a soft spot for beam style weapons that feel like they have a huge punch to them. That *VWOOOOM* charge cycle followed by the beam firing and blowing someone's loving face off is like audiovisual porn, and the heavy beam cannon looks amazing with tracer rounds in it because some of the beams will come out red. I like all of the tier 3 weapons except the pistol. I want an alloy hand cannon instead of a plasma pistol. The tier 3 sniper rifle is ridiculously satisfying, though.
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Harrow posted:The tier 3 armors look cartoony and ridiculous and I hate them. On my next campaign I want to find a mod that lets me use the resistance fighter versions of kevlar armor for the whole game. I love looking like a ragtag group of badasses wearing salvaged armor strapped over worn civilian clothes. You're in luck. There's two mods for that. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=619230980 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=619159905
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Gonna have to go with the tier 3 cannons as my favorite, TBH. For the final mission I was like: "Hmm, prolly should have a sniper with AP rounds for this...but I just love to hear dat cannon roar, so Heavy Weapons Expert it is!" Nothing like the sound of that while seeing it do AP damage and shredding all the armor off a hard target with the best scope + aim PSC bonus to guarantee it hits. 
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Kanos posted:I actually really love the T3 weapons because I have a soft spot for beam style weapons that feel like they have a huge punch to them. That *VWOOOOM* charge cycle followed by the beam firing and blowing someone's loving face off is like audiovisual porn, and the heavy beam cannon looks amazing with tracer rounds in it because some of the beams will come out red. The actual shot animation is pretty cool. The physical design of T3 weapons and armor on the other hand are kinda dumb in my opinion. We're supoosed to be some sort of rag-tag group scrounging poo poo together. T2 reflects that as everything looks welded together. T3 is, well "why did we have the 3D printers spend all these hours making this smooth, sleek armor when Timmy over at Refugee Camp 7 was waiting for us to 3D print him a replacement hip?"
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Alkydere posted:T3 is, well "why did we have the 3D printers spend all these hours making this smooth, sleek armor when Timmy over at Refugee Camp 7 was waiting for us to 3D print him a replacement hip?" Because Timmy getting a new hip isn't going to save humanity. 
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And courtesy of Iron Rose's 100% accurate swords mod, the final kill of the game goes to Jane Kelly. Thanks for teleporting into her murder zone, third Avatar. Also, some people in this thread seem to be under the misconception that Snipers are somehow not great, which confuses me.  This is where she got nine kills in a turn in the final mission:   Sectoids and Codex clones, and a nice final Shredder shot at Avatar 2.This put her firmly above 100 kills in the campaign, meaning she alone was responsible for almost 20% of my total kills. I only started training her up when my Gunslinger got hosed up bad enough to be put out of comission for over half a month and never looked back. That kill count could have been higher, after she got Shredder she started murdering way less. At some point she was at like 4 kills per mission
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I've been thinking about sword Rangers. How hard would it be to mod in a "Double Slash" ability for Rangers that works like Chain Shot, minus the accuracy penalty (so, if you hit with a sword attack and the target is still up, take a second sword attack.)? Cos I'm thinking, remove Deep Cover (seriously, who takes that), bump Implacable up a rank to be opposite Untouchable, bump Conceal up a rank to be opposite Bladestorm, put Shadowstep under Shadowstrike as a Scout ability on 3rd promotion, opposite Run-and-Gun, and have Double Slash be opposite Shadowstrike at second promotion. It would make early game Rangers be pretty ridiculous with double-swording things, but they can only really take out one target a turn and they're risking exposing other pods to do so. Also much like a specialist's Hack skill goes up 5 per promotion, have a Ranger's sword accuracy go up each promotion, 2 then 3, then 2, and so on, for a total of +15 at Colonel.
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I think I might skip Psi Ops on my next playthrough because they are hilariously, ludicrously ridiculous. So much fun but so broken. I activate two pods containing a Gatekeeper and an Andromedon and I'm like, "sure, no biggie"Dinictus posted:You're in luck. There's two mods for that. I love this game so much, every time I have a complaint I find out someone else has already fixed it
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Wizard Styles posted:And courtesy of Iron Rose's 100% accurate swords mod, the final kill of the game goes to Jane Kelly. Thanks for teleporting into her murder zone, third Avatar Me too! Perhaps it's in the game code, that it always does that if you kept Jane Kelly around and didn't change her name? Though in my version, I'll take two shotgun 15-20 rapid fire crits to blow it the hell away, TIA.
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So what is everybody's PCS/Weapon Upgrade strategy? Just stack aim on everyone to guarantee hits? I could see a Conceal scout going for like mobility instead since they probably only pop up to flank people at close range then Implacable away anyways, but other than that...
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Funny thing......the character pool doesn't remember if it pulled a guy for a trooper and gets KIA'd. Commie got killed in a debacle of an op and then shows up 2 missions later as an engineer VIP. edit: holy poo poo nvm this guy is a soldier. Commie got mind controlled and left for dead when I extracted my lone survivor and you can actually rescue them. They come back gravely injured with the same skills you picked. Way to go Firaxis sighnoceros posted:So what is everybody's PCS/Weapon Upgrade strategy? Just stack aim on everyone to guarantee hits? I could see a Conceal scout going for like mobility instead since they probably only pop up to flank people at close range then Implacable away anyways, but other than that... I took the dodge PCS for my rangers that did a lot of run/gun or slash attacks. Saved my guy in Veteran many times. Dodge is actually a great stat to help you survive bullshit RNG attacks from aliens. MikeC fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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MarquiseMindfang posted:I've been thinking about sword Rangers. Look at Chain Shot in whatever .ini it's in. If it has fields for which weapon it applies and how much of a penalty it gives you can probably just change it to apply to secondary weapons and set the penalty to 0. Someone got Slash working with Shotguns this way.
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How much time do I have before a "Rescue the VIP" mission expires? I am like 1-2 hours away from finishing a scan for an engineer that's like SUPER far away from anything else on the map I want to do. It'd be a shame to lose like 12-24 hours having to schlep back and forth to scan for the last little bit. Also: does Willpower impact psionic abilities like it used to? I have a Superior Will PCS that I could slap on my psykers if ever I decided to take one out of the tube, but if it doesn't do anything I'm giving it to the black market.
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sighnoceros posted:So what is everybody's PCS/Weapon Upgrade strategy? Just stack aim on everyone to guarantee hits? I could see a Conceal scout going for like mobility instead since they probably only pop up to flank people at close range then Implacable away anyways, but other than that... Aim for Sharpshooters, Will for Psi-Ops, Health for the rest. For weapons, I usually used scopes and extended mags. Rangers I gave laser sights instead of scopes, and Psi-Ops I gave stocks since they had low aim anyway. I also found out through this that repeaters proc their execute on any damage, not just a hit, so a stock and repeater can be pretty brutal.
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sighnoceros posted:So what is everybody's PCS/Weapon Upgrade strategy? Just stack aim on everyone to guarantee hits? I could see a Conceal scout going for like mobility instead since they probably only pop up to flank people at close range then Implacable away anyways, but other than that... Aim on basically everyone, except movement on Psi soldiers and my dedicated Concealment Ranger. No dodge (shouldn't be getting shot), no health (doesn't prevent wounds), no will (mindshields and solace exist). Those get sold to the Black Market (or stockpiled to sell later if the continent bonus that makes the Black Market pay more is on the table.) What we need are Psi+ and Hacking+ PCS.
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sighnoceros posted:So what is everybody's PCS/Weapon Upgrade strategy? Just stack aim on everyone to guarantee hits? I could see a Conceal scout going for like mobility instead since they probably only pop up to flank people at close range then Implacable away anyways, but other than that...
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I'm slowly making my way through my first play-through on Veteran. Making a lot of mistakes, doing a ton of save scumming, and having lots of fun. This is a great game. I think I'm only about halfway through, but it's difficult to say... so far unspoiled in terms of what the overall storyline is. I'm hoping to learn enough in this playthrough to tackle Commander Ironman for my next one. Really really enjoying the maneuverability and utility of my Ranger. I think I might have to swap one of my grenadiers for a second ranger and just do crazy shotgun murder.
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jBrereton posted:Aim on snipers, with clips extended as much as possible, dodge on anyone else, supports get stocks for breaking overwatch, rangers get crit, and heavies get free reloads. Scopes if at all possible on as many as possible, snipers>heavies>rangers>supports in terms of importance. I gave my sniper a superior stock so when he inevitably misses it will at least do something.
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Shab posted:I've played and beaten both EW and EU but I can't say I've ever been very good, and XCOM 2 is straight up destroying me so far. So really basic questions for all you people out there beating it on the harder difficulties: How often do you Hunker Down, and what situations are you using Hunker Down and Overwatch in? I realized that I've used Hunker Down like twice so far in my game in favor of Overwatch, so obviously that needs to change, and even then, while I know what Overwatch does, I don't know if it changes how the enemy responds or even what situations it's intended for. Should I be using it to pin down enemies who are already behind cover? Should I primarily be using it when advancing and trying to discover pods? I feel like my brain has always focused on teasing out the numbers without understanding the basics of real, on-the-field usage. I'm just getting started with this game but so far I use overwatch to catch enemies out of cover. Half that is ambushing with overwatch traps. The other half is pushing enemies out of cover with explosives and flanking, basically forcing enemies to choose between getting flanked and getting overwatch-raked as they move to new cover. Hunker down is for vip's or an oh poo poo button for soldiers that are pinned down, taking fire, and have no good shots to take.
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MarquiseMindfang posted:Aim on basically everyone, except movement on Psi soldiers and my dedicated Concealment Ranger. No dodge (shouldn't be getting shot), no health (doesn't prevent wounds), no will (mindshields and solace exist). Those get sold to the Black Market (or stockpiled to sell later if the continent bonus that makes the Black Market pay more is on the table.) I was actually surprised when I found out that Psi and Will are completely different stats because I'd put Will directly on my Psi trooper and only then noticed that there was a separate stat for Psi. That actually kinda makes Will a bit of mediocre PCS. Not that I won't use one on my ace soldiers since PCS drops are rare enough anyways that you need to play with the hand dealt to you.
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Snipers are awful until you give them an Aim PCS. Then they become unstoppable killing machines. I hope the black market's got one then! And also that I have enough intel for it, still completely out, gently caress.
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Alkydere posted:The actual shot animation is pretty cool. The physical design of T3 weapons and armor on the other hand are kinda dumb in my opinion. We're supoosed to be some sort of rag-tag group scrounging poo poo together. T2 reflects that as everything looks welded together. T3 is, well "why did we have the 3D printers spend all these hours making this smooth, sleek armor when Timmy over at Refugee Camp 7 was waiting for us to 3D print him a replacement hip?" See, I don't actually agree with this line of thought. Your guys are armed with ragtag kevlar bullshit and random assault rifles at the start because at that point the resistance is a bunch of malcontents living out in the boonies with minimal contact with each other and no access to resources so that's the best they can do. The Commander arrives and the Avenger comes online and begins building a network while simultaneously beginning repairs and upgrades to the Avenger itself. By the time you hit Beam Weapons and Warden Armor, you're emphatically not a rag-tag group of scrounging guerillas scraping by from day to day, you're a full fledged military force running special ops missions against the enemy. The Avenger is a fully completed and upgraded flying headquarters/factory that can support technology like goddamn Alien Teleportation Portals and Psionic training labs and you've built a massive world-wide resistance network that has the support of basically every living human being not living in an ADVENT city. It makes perfect sense that with your improved manufacturing facilities and drastically greater access to resources you're not churning out lovely duct tape armor anymore; you're the shining hope of the entire world, so every resisting human on the planet is going to make sure that your guys have access to the very best possible materials to manufacture equipment. The only part about the T3 armor that is really disappointing to me is the lack of fully enclosed helmet options like EU/EW had. I always liked giving my troopers progressively more enclosed helmets as tech progressed(start bareheaded/hats, upgrade to carapace and give everyone buckets, upgrade to titan and give everyone rad power armor helmets), so the weird little visor options don't really do it for me.
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Snipers are awful until you give them an Aim PCS. Then they become unstoppable killing machines. No need. Scope + tracer rounds
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CrazyLoon posted:Me too! Perhaps it's in the game code, that it always does that if you kept Jane Kelly around and didn't change her name? Though in my version, I'll take two shotgun 15-20 rapid fire crits to blow it the hell away, TIA. Not just for being the tutorial survivor, she also was the last one left of the initial squad I had (although the guy that went on to become my Gunslinger is still alive, just benched) and got grievously injured so often she's probably mostly holes and scar tissue by now. She deserved it. FairGame posted:How much time do I have before a "Rescue the VIP" mission expires? MikeC posted:Funny thing......the character pool doesn't remember if it pulled a guy for a trooper and gets KIA'd. Commie got killed in a debacle of an op and then shows up 2 missions later as an engineer VIP.
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Khisanth Magus posted:I had someone standing point blank with a berserker with like a 80% chance to hit, and in order to miss they actually pointed their gun at the ground in front of them before firing. Who hasn't wanted to recreate that classic action movie troupe? What comes next isn't usually in the movies though. "What do you mean I'm out of X-Com Commander? My contract isn't up for another s-"
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Kanos posted:The only part about the T3 armor that is really disappointing to me is the lack of fully enclosed helmet options like EU/EW had. I always liked giving my troopers progressively more enclosed helmets as tech progressed(start bareheaded/hats, upgrade to carapace and give everyone buckets, upgrade to titan and give everyone rad power armor helmets), so the weird little visor options don't really do it for me. I'll agree to disagree with you on the rest but this really does piss me off. None of the face/helmet/head options fit the T-3 stuff. They all fit T1/"resistance pack", and they fit T2, but T3 armor really looks like your dudes should be wearing nearly indistinguishable cyber-helmets to go with their cyber suits. Instead they just run around with the same bandannas and baseball caps as before. The Avenger can manufacture an endless line of iArmor but can't make a helmet to match?
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Ilustforponydeath posted:No need. Scope + tracer rounds I gave her +Mobility because it meant I never had to worry too much about her positioning, the next good sniper spot could be halfway across the map and it was still just a Dash + Grappling Hook use away.
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Alkydere posted:I'll agree to disagree with you on the rest but this really does piss me off. None of the face/helmet/head options fit the T-3 stuff. They all fit T1/"resistance pack", and they fit T2, but T3 armor really looks like your dudes should be wearing nearly indistinguishable cyber-helmets to go with their cyber suits. Instead they just run around with the same bandannas and baseball caps as before. The Avenger can manufacture an endless line of iArmor but can't make a helmet to match? Warden Armor does give you access to weird tech visor things with transparent faceplates, but there's no power armor helmets like EW.
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Slowly downloading this now. How the gently caress is a point and clicky strategy game half the size of the internet?
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