|
Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Raging Keyan Farlander could be fun. Yepppppp thespaceinvader posted:Eh, maybe, but Tycho still REALLY wants autothrusters. First critical hit the shuttle takes sends Palpatine out the airlock 
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 19:16
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 16, 2024 22:03 |
|
|
So, been talking over the preview for a minute, and here are my knee-jerk reactions:
Everything else I either haven't had time to digest or I don't really think is worthy of comment (Manaroo is way too expensive for what is essentially a support ship in my mind, etc.)
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 19:17
|
|
|
Does Boba Fett need to be on the ship attacking to do that trick?
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 19:22
|
|
|
Scum have really great crew options these days, 4/5 of the named bounty hunter crew cards are worth taking (suck it, Greedo)
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 19:23
|
|
|
Am I right in understanding that Gonk can get loaded up with more than one shield token? With the obvious caveat that you can only add/remove them one at a time.
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 19:25
|
|
|
overdesigned posted:Am I right in understanding that Gonk can get loaded up with more than one shield token? With the obvious caveat that you can only add/remove them one at a time. It looks like it. You could slow roll in and put a couple tokens on him so that later on action = shield.
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 19:26
|
|
|
Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Raging Keyan Farlander could be fun. The problem is you can only spend one stress per attack so if you get saddled with double stress the problem is you come out of the fight with stress still on you, which limits a lot of Keyan's options. The traditional way to use him is gaining a stress via a red maneuver or something like Stay on Target and then shedding it with the attack, allowing you to pull the same maneuvers/tricks every round without pause, getting saddled with excess stress interrupts that. It's actually less good for him.
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 19:30
|
|
|
quote:Whew, Lad Slot in your EPT and other upgrades of choice, instantly kill Palpatine in a POW list, kill Gunner on Fat Han, kill R5-P9 or R2-D2, etc., and then you're still Kath Scarlet after the fact so you can still be potentially scary Fill up the rest of the list with a Z-swarm kitted with Chips and Missiles and you are potentially in business?
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 19:34
|
|
|
Chemmy posted:It looks like it. You could slow roll in and put a couple tokens on him so that later on action = shield. Yeah, it's shield storage. Put Gonk + PTL + Hull Upgrade on Tel Trevura and he may just never die. Somehow get destroyed? Next Activation Phase he's back to 2 shields + 2 hull.
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 19:35
|
|
|
Youngster, rage, and 7 academies.
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 19:35
|
|
|
Edit: Nevermind, Gonk is scum only. 
Gumdrop Larry fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Feb 10, 2016 |
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 19:40
|
|
|
Bossk in the YV-666 with Boba Fett, Dengar +1(Gonk? Tactician?)
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 19:41
|
|
|
I am glad that Gonk Droids are getting the representation they deserve
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 19:42
|
|
|
Gonk is awesome. Slow boat your yv-666, gunner + Bossk means you don't need actions to shoot well, you have an extremely durable ship on your hands.
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 19:42
|
|
|
quote:Seriously, Though, This List Could Be Terrifying Alternatively, give Kath Opportunist and make the Zs generic + Feedback Array? I don't know. EDIT: No, we should Crack Shot here, fixing it EDIT2: Also Boba is discard on use, so goodbye EM and title, we don't miss you
guts and bolts fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Feb 10, 2016 |
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 19:43
|
|
|
Does the threat of facing a ship with Boba Fett crew simply stop the inclusion of Palpatine at this point? Is it even worth the risk to waste 29 pts for OGP+Palp if it's neutralized by a 3pt upgrade card?
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 19:48
|
|
|
Kai Tave posted:The problem is you can only spend one stress per attack so if you get saddled with double stress the problem is you come out of the fight with stress still on you, which limits a lot of Keyan's options. The traditional way to use him is gaining a stress via a red maneuver or something like Stay on Target and then shedding it with the attack, allowing you to pull the same maneuvers/tricks every round without pause, getting saddled with excess stress interrupts that. It's actually less good for him. Yes there's a limit there but it's still viable. A buddy with Wingman or E2 + Kanaan Jarrus are all pretty viable options. Keyan Farlander (29) Rage (1) B-Wing / E2 (1) Kanan Jarrus (3) Total: 34 Now every turn you can rage and still dump both stress with a white maneuver, plus be a stress relief for all your friends.
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 19:49
|
|
|
Weirdneal posted:Does the threat of facing a ship with Boba Fett crew simply stop the inclusion of Palpatine at this point? Is it even worth the risk to waste 29 pts for OGP+Palp if it's neutralized by a 3pt upgrade card? You will still take Palpatine and either deal with Advanced Homing when it comes up, or fly appropriately differently. It's a solid counter, but doesn't negate the list, lol. EDIT: they still chew through shields or have to AHM you, Boba by himself doesn't insta-beat Palps, and you aren't trading 3 points for 32 or whatever. guts and bolts fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Feb 10, 2016 |
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 19:50
|
|
|
They also have to roll a crit (outside of advanced homing missiles), which palpatine can negate, right?
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 19:57
|
|
|
This could be fun: ANGRY PILOTS Keyan Farlander (34) B-Wing (29) Rage (1) B-Wing / E2 (1) Kanan Jarrus (3) Tycho Celchu (28) A-Wing (26) A-Wing Test Pilot (0) Chardaan Refit (-2) Wired (1) Rage (1) Autothrusters (2) 62 points total. Who would go with it?
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 19:58
|
|
|
Weirdneal posted:Does the threat of facing a ship with Boba Fett crew simply stop the inclusion of Palpatine at this point? Is it even worth the risk to waste 29 pts for OGP+Palp if it's neutralized by a 3pt upgrade card?
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 19:59
|
|
|
Jeb Bush 2012 posted:They also have to roll a crit (outside of advanced homing missiles), which palpatine can negate, right? He can add an evade but he can't gently caress with enemy ship dice. But seriously, it's either "chew up 5 shields before Boba can go to work" or "run a Firespray or YV-666 with Boba and AHM plus whatever else you need," and if you're going to go after Palpatine you are probably giving away your flank, and then you are getting one-and-two-turned by Whisper + other ace. It isn't as insane as people think it is. It's good, and it's a good counter, but lmao if you think Boba makes Palpatine unplayable. He does not. EDIT: Change your dice to an evade. I forgot "add" is a totally different thing per FFG's rules, so no he cannot add a dice result. He can change one. Want to be clear, here. guts and bolts fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Feb 10, 2016 |
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 20:00
|
|
|
Beer4TheBeerGod posted:This could be fun: Why, the best pilot in the resistane: Poe Dameron!
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 20:02
|
|
|
So could you Electronic Baffle away a stress token before you spread it around with Attani Mindlink? Not that it makes the Mindlink good, but it could almost make it playable, I guess.
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 20:05
|
|
|
Isn't boba just 1 point though? I mean, if you have an extra crew slot. Why not?
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 20:07
|
|
|
Beer4TheBeerGod posted:This could be fun: Why would you want Wired on Tycho? Rage gives a free focus token. Give him PTL and Prockets.
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 20:08
|
|
|
I'm gonna assume Paul made boba fett after the 2014 championship and that we'll get TR8R trooper as an imperial crew member from last year's championship. 
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 20:08
|
|
|
Hencoe posted:Isn't boba just 1 point though? I mean, if you have an extra crew slot. Why not? Because Boba Fett, to do what you want him to do, is either just killing ships who are already dead (he's great at getting rid of Corran Horn and Poe Dameron and "Red Ace" but they're already dead by the time you're dealing crits to them, anyway???) or he needs to be put on a ship with a missile slot and a crew slot together, which limits your choices to the YV-666 or the Firespray-31, who generally like other crew or have other limiting factors (Kath loves K4, you can't take Boba pilot, generic Firesprays aren't great; YV-666 can't use Bossk pilot with Boba, generic has to make room for the crew and take a missile and is PS2, etc. etc. etc.) The only way you're getting Han's Gunner or Yorr's Emperor off of them early is to succeed an AHM attack with Boba crew. Otherwise, you're still stuck stripping off shields, in which case you'd probably want Greedo crew to work with Boba Fett crew, and now we're talking two crew slots to limit variance.
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 20:15
|
|
|
Weirdneal posted:Yeah, it's shield storage. Put Gonk + PTL + Hull Upgrade on Tel Trevura and he may just never die. Somehow get destroyed? Next Activation Phase he's back to 2 shields + 2 hull. Correct me if I'm missing something but, PTL can only perform actions in your action bar, and even if it could do an action on an upgrade card it doesn't get around the limit of only performing an action once per round.
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 20:20
|
|
|
Poopy Palpy posted:Correct me if I'm missing something but, PTL can only perform actions in your action bar, and even if it could do an action on an upgrade card it doesn't get around the limit of only performing an action once per round. That does sound correct. Experimental Interface would work.
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 20:22
|
|
|
Yeah, you could get one shield back via standard action, and PtL to do something else, which honestly is still pretty good. EI would lose you the hull upgrade and you can still only do an individual action once per round.
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 20:24
|
|
|
No hull upgrade if you take EI
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 20:24
|
|
|
Tekopo posted:No hull upgrade if you take EI overdesigned posted:EI would lose you the hull upgrade and you can still only do an individual action once per round. True enough. I guess PtL to get the shield first and do something else is good enough.
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 20:28
|
|
|
EDIT:^^^^ EI means you can't boost, which is arguably even worse than just sucking it up and taking PTL? Like I said I just think that maybe Gonk is bad EDIT2: or if you're talking Tel Trevura you lose Hull Upgrade? Still think maybe Gonk is just bad guts and bolts fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Feb 10, 2016 |
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 20:29
|
|
|
Gonk is not an astromech EDIT: as well as that, you can EI to do both actions in a single turn, or double load/double take.
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 20:30
|
|
|
Tekopo posted:Gonk is not an astromech woooooord EDIT: I still don't like him for very similar reasons guts and bolts fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Feb 10, 2016 |
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 20:31
|
|
|
guts and bolts posted:woooooord If it makes you feel better, the preview article author made the same mistake.
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 20:33
|
|
|
Poopy Palpy posted:If it makes you feel better, the preview article author made the same mistake. This was my problem - I took basically all my information from the preview article, and didn't actually look at the cards via link because I'm supposed to be working. It's why I'm also still baffled at how R5-P8 and Boba "synergize" well.
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 20:34
|
|
|
Poopy Palpy posted:Correct me if I'm missing something but, PTL can only perform actions in your action bar, and even if it could do an action on an upgrade card it doesn't get around the limit of only performing an action once per round. For the free action, yes. But the first action can be from a card. I'm assuming you've already got shields stored up when you first got destroyed.
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 20:35
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 16, 2024 22:03 |
|
|
Wait you can't double load, double take, but with EI you can load then immediately take. And with both bossk and gunner, you don't care about the stress to shoot good.
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 20:35
|
|