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bobkatt013 posted:On Jean Grey's grave no less! It's uh, cool, she gave him psychic permission! Scott said so! He wouldn't lie!
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Lurdiak posted:Do you mean fixed narratively or are you talking about his powers? Because the powers thing was undone at the end of Whedon's own run. If you mean narratively, I was never that fond of Whedon's take on Cyclops, it just seemed like a nerdy guy who related to Cyclops more childishly trying to make his favorite character seem cooler than Wolverine. And it led to a decade+ of Cyclops being horrible. I'm talking about his powers. At the end of whedon's run he's like "oh, it's hard to hold them in so I'm gonna wear this anyway", which is sort of a lame cop-out but at least opens the door for other situations where he's able to not shoot lasers for an amount of time, like, for an 'ace up his sleeve' or whatever. But then it was never built upon or brought up again and now he got phoenixed and he's got less control than ever. It sucks. ps cyclops is cooler than wolverine
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Feb 9, 2016 23:14
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redbackground posted:It's uh, cool, she gave him psychic permission! Scott said so! He wouldn't lie! I think it's kind of romantic.
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Feb 9, 2016 23:14
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bobkatt013 posted:On Jean Grey's grave no less! Eh, I'm pretty sure he hosed Madeline Pryor on Jean's grave at least once.
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Feb 9, 2016 23:19
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Ensign_Ricky posted:Eh, I'm pretty sure he hosed Madeline Pryor on Jean's grave at least once. With how many graves Jean Gray's left all over the place, who hasn't hosed on at least one of them?
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Feb 9, 2016 23:21
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redbackground posted:It's uh, cool, she gave him psychic permission! Scott said so! He wouldn't lie! Yeah. That whole last story arc was about Jean stopping Scott from walking away from Emma and quitting the X-Men. The whole run was pretty much telling readers to quit pining over their great love who they have nothing in common with, and just have crazy sex with another woman.
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Feb 9, 2016 23:22
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Thaddius the Large posted:With how many graves Jean Gray's left all over the place, who hasn't hosed on at least one of them? Well...true.
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Feb 9, 2016 23:26
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Ensign_Ricky posted:Eh, I'm pretty sure he hosed Madeline Pryor on Jean's grave at least once. I am sure X-man did at least once!
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Feb 9, 2016 23:34
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A good comic idea: X-Man of the House, a domestic sitcom in the mid-20th century mode. We follow the time-lost young Cyclops, and his teenage efforts to manage the demands of raising a family including his children (Cable, Stryfe, Nate Grey, Rachel, Ruby, ??), grandchildren (Hope, Hyperstorm, ??), the Phoenix Force, Emma Frost, and a demon queen, all under one roof. Complications arise from his meddling relations like brothers, alternate reality brothers, possibly Apocalypse, and alcoholic space pirate dad.
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Feb 9, 2016 23:48
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Squizzle posted:A good comic idea: X-Man of the House, a domestic sitcom in the mid-20th century mode. We follow the time-lost young Cyclops, and his teenage efforts to manage the demands of raising a family including his children (Cable, Stryfe, Nate Grey, Rachel, Ruby, ??), grandchildren (Hope, Hyperstorm, ??), the Phoenix Force, Emma Frost, and a demon queen, all under one roof. Complications arise from his meddling relations like brothers, alternate reality brothers, possibly Apocalypse, and alcoholic space pirate dad. I like it, the plot ideas are endless. In the pilot episode, an effort to draw up a chart scheduling who gets the bathroom at what time each morning leads to time traveling hijinks, accidentally opening a tear in the space time continuum and threatening the fabric of the multiverse; also, Hope asks Cable for help on a project due at school, but this makes Stryfe feel left out.
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Squizzle posted:A good comic idea: X-Man of the House, a domestic sitcom in the mid-20th century mode. We follow the time-lost young Cyclops, and his teenage efforts to manage the demands of raising a family including his children (Cable, Stryfe, Nate Grey, Rachel, Ruby, ??), grandchildren (Hope, Hyperstorm, ??), the Phoenix Force, Emma Frost, and a demon queen, all under one roof. Complications arise from his meddling relations like brothers, alternate reality brothers, possibly Apocalypse, and alcoholic space pirate dad. With Deadpool as Cable's annoying best friend in a Fonzie style role for the ages!
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Ignite Memories posted:I'm talking about his powers. At the end of whedon's run he's like "oh, it's hard to hold them in so I'm gonna wear this anyway", which is sort of a lame cop-out but at least opens the door for other situations where he's able to not shoot lasers for an amount of time, like, for an 'ace up his sleeve' or whatever. But then it was never built upon or brought up again and now he got phoenixed and he's got less control than ever. It sucks. Actually what happened was that whatever Emma did to fix him was "wearing off". It still feels a little editorially mandated but there was no door left open. quote:ps cyclops is cooler than wolverine
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It feels a lot editorially mandated. There is no question in my mind whedon would have left him that way if he was allowed to.Lurdiak posted:Not when he's trying to be Wolverine, he isn't. It is not scott's fault that many writers cannot differentiate between various types of badass. Ignite Memories fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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Feb 10, 2016 00:37
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Ensign_Ricky posted:With Deadpool as Cable's annoying best friend in a Fonzie style role for the ages! Deadpool is the neighbor who Cable converses over the fence with, Wilson.
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Ignite Memories posted:It feels a lot editorially mandated. There is no question in my mind whedon would have left him that way if he was allowed to. You should ask him if he undeletes his twitter.
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Hah! I forgot about that. Here's a panel that I like (don't have the source, sadly, I probably stole it from this thread tbh) 
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That's fine, no one remembers their names because no one cares about inhumans.
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Feb 10, 2016 01:10
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Spider-man is pretty good at giving advice: (Spider-Men #5)
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Squizzle posted:A good comic idea: X-Man of the House, a domestic sitcom in the mid-20th century mode. We follow the time-lost young Cyclops, and his teenage efforts to manage the demands of raising a family including his children (Cable, Stryfe, Nate Grey, Rachel, Ruby, ??), grandchildren (Hope, Hyperstorm, ??), the Phoenix Force, Emma Frost, and a demon queen, all under one roof. Complications arise from his meddling relations like brothers, alternate reality brothers, possibly Apocalypse, and alcoholic space pirate dad. It's an X-men version of the Cosby Show - multiple kids, endless grandparents, countless guest stars. Ensign_Ricky posted:With Deadpool as Cable's annoying best friend in a Fonzie style role for the ages! Say Nothing posted:Deadpool is the neighbor who Cable converses over the fence with, Wilson. Deadpool is Cockroach.
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Is Mr. Sinister his boss? Like, a Supernintendo Chalmers figure who's always yelling at Cyclops?
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Ferrule posted:an X-men version of the Cosby Show 
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Looks like Claremont's back in action!
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It’s even worse because Alex Summers has the loving smuggest old mutant public persona that I hate. Pull your pants up, mutants, I led an X-team in the 90s. I can talk down to you because I had a successful series. Yeah, but you raped women, Alex Summers. So, brings you down a couple notches.
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Travis343 posted:Is Mr. Sinister his boss? Like, a Supernintendo Chalmers figure who's always yelling at Cyclops? Always hidden, always willing to help for his own reasons with cryptic advice Cyclops doesn't fully understand until OH NO HE'S STEALING MY DNA AGAIN
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Maduo posted:Spider-man is pretty good at giving advice: He forgot about bricks and trucks.
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Doc Hawkins posted:He forgot about bricks and trucks. Well, yeah, he forgot.
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Serious Frolicking posted:That's fine, no one remembers their names because no one cares about inhumans. It kind of sucks how much I don't give a poo poo about inhumans, considering they've basically replaced mutants because of Fox. But I just can't feel the same interest I've always had for the X-Men, no matter how long and how badly their books have sucked. And now they've gotten worse because it feels like they don't know what to do with a property that won't make them movie money, so it's just another extinction event.
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Lurdiak posted:If you mean narratively, I was never that fond of Whedon's take on Cyclops, it just seemed like a nerdy guy who related to Cyclops more childishly trying to make his favorite character seem cooler than Wolverine. I liked it just because we'd been told for like 50 loving years that Cyclops was super awesome cool badass, guys!, it was good to finally have him actually shown the way he was always described, even if it was a bit over the top.
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That never happened, we were told he was a good leader and tactician which was shown a lot, just not in Whedons run really.
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Speaking of tactics: Jenny Everywhere: When Casting Calls
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Doc Hawkins posted:He forgot about bricks and trucks. FAPPO!
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MikeJF posted:I liked it just because we'd been told for like 50 loving years that Cyclops was super awesome cool badass, guys!, it was good to finally have him actually shown the way he was always described, even if it was a bit over the top. How about the time that he beat the entire X-men team when he was powerless?
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I thought that was Storm? Or did she just beat up Cyclops while powerless?
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Elfface posted:I thought that was Storm? Or did she just beat up Cyclops while powerless? The time I am thinking of is when the X-men are tricked to think Cyclops is the Dark Phoenix by Mastermind
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Wierdworld #3 Just what is Goelita's deal with wizards anyway?  Oh.  Those high fiving wizards tho.
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Yvonmukluk posted:Speaking of tactics: It's neat that Jenny is public domain. More characters should be.
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In Weirdworld, all friendships are based on dancing:  (Also Weirdworld 3, read Weirdworld)
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bobkatt013 posted:The time I am thinking of is when the X-men are tricked to think Cyclops is the Dark Phoenix by Mastermind He had his powers, but it was still really bad rear end.
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WickedHate posted:It’s even worse because Alex Summers has the loving smuggest old mutant public persona that I hate. Pull your pants up, mutants, I led an X-team in the 90s. I can talk down to you because I had a successful series. Yeah, but you raped women, Alex Summers. So, brings you down a couple notches. When did Alex get his rape on? Last I remember he had some horrible scarring from something and Kang killed his daughter via The Wasp, or something to that effect.
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