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As a jew, I'm really looking forward to trump supporters likening sanders to Hitler without an ounce of self-evaluation
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Feb 10, 2016 19:34
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Kro-Bar posted:I know Sam Seder's pet theory is that Christie has been staying in it as long as possible to avoid potential indictments in New Jersey. Dunno if there's any credence to that, but it sure would be neat to watch his political career crash and burn! If Christie crashes and burns then the whole state will smell like bacon for a month.
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Feb 10, 2016 19:39
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Apparently Ferguson is dragging it's feet on the DoJ-imposed changes to its policing.
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Feb 10, 2016 19:40
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Oxxidation posted:If Christie crashes and burns then the whole state will smell like bacon for a month. 
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Feb 10, 2016 19:42
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Kro-Bar posted:Apparently Ferguson is dragging it's feet on the DoJ-imposed changes to its policing. quote:By failing to accept some of the terms of the decree, Ferguson may now be slapped with a federal lawsuit. I hope this happens but I know it won't.
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Feb 10, 2016 19:45
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Kro-Bar posted:Apparently Ferguson is dragging it's feet on the DoJ-imposed changes to its policing. As well it should. Let POLICE govern the people, not government police the POLICE.
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Feb 10, 2016 19:50
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DaveWoo posted:To be fair, both Trump and Sanders are tapping into a general sense of anger among the electorate, a feeling that things are hosed up and we need radical change from a non-establishment figure to set things right again. The big difference is, of course, in who the anger is directed towards, but I can't really fault the media for picking up on the similarities. They also have some similar rhetoric and opinions on money in politics, wall street, and the political establishment in their respective parties.
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Feb 10, 2016 19:51
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Kro-Bar posted:Apparently Ferguson is dragging it's feet on the DoJ-imposed changes to its policing. The vote was unanimous which means that the two black members who rode the protest wave in the recent elections (and the one black member who was already there) also voted against it.
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Feb 10, 2016 19:53
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Radish posted:I hope this happens but I know it won't. Why not? Obama's DoJ actually goes after things like this.
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Feb 10, 2016 20:03
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Business Gorillas posted:As a jew, I'm really looking forward to trump supporters likening sanders to Hitler without an ounce of self-evaluation Already happening, if you browse comment sections. "He's a self-admitted national socialist!"
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Feb 10, 2016 20:04
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What's the realistic chance of Bloomberg entering as a third party? I'm feeling pretty good about the general but every now and then I see something about Bloomberg and how he'd totally gently caress over the Democrats if he entered.
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Feb 10, 2016 20:11
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FOD made a 50-minute adaptation of The Art of the Deal, as though it were a never-aired TV Movie from 1987. Also it stars Johnny Depp in a fat suit as the Donald, and it's loving glorious. http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/ad38087bac/donald-trump-art-of-the-deal-movie?playlist=467356&_cc=__d___&_ccid=1f7ace35e1645347 The cast list beyond Depp is top-notch too. Also ALF shows up. site posted:No! No primary chat! Go away! B-b-but they mercy killed the other thread on Monday! Now we have nowhere to go! I suggest you build a wall
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Feb 10, 2016 20:11
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If Jeb Bush somehow wins the presidency, every donor of right to rise is going to get whatever the gently caress they ask for
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Feb 10, 2016 20:13
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Electric Bugaloo posted:FOD made a 50-minute adaptation of The Art of the Deal, as though it were a never-aired TV Movie from 1987. Scored by Kenny "Danger Zone" Loggins, too!
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Feb 10, 2016 20:14
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Tender Bender posted:What's the realistic chance of Bloomberg entering as a third party? I'm feeling pretty good about the general but every now and then I see something about Bloomberg and how he'd totally gently caress over the Democrats if he entered. I think he gets in on a Trump/Bernie ticket, I think he stays out if it's establishment on both sides. Also I don't know why he naturally pulls more from D's than R's there's going to be a huge middle ground if Bernie and Trump are the ticket. I think you can make a case for any of the three of Trump/Bloomberg/Sanders winning given that ticket.
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Feb 10, 2016 20:16
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Stultus Maximus posted:The vote was unanimous which means that the two black members who rode the protest wave in the recent elections (and the one black member who was already there) also voted against it. Looking at the specifics, they didn't say they weren't going to make the changes to their policing, they added/amended seven things rather than adopting the consent decree as-is. quote:--The agreement contains no mandate for additional salary to police department or other city employees. Maybe they're not in any position to be making amendments at this point, but these don't look like pushback against the idea that policing in Ferguson needs to change. They are primarily fiscal worries. The sixth point looks like a positive all around. It's the fourth and fifth points that look like they could be real problems, with the fourth allowing the complete circumvention of standards just by contracting out services. The fifth one is pushing for more local control but at the point the DoJ is telling you to get your poo poo together you've probably lost that battle already.
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Feb 10, 2016 20:16
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blue squares posted:If Jeb Bush somehow wins the presidency, every donor of right to rise is going to get whatever the gently caress they ask for If Jeb wins the presidency then we're not only going back to Iraq but we're not stopping at the Iranian boarder.
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Feb 10, 2016 20:16
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I assume Bloomberg runs if Bernie gets the nom, so he's not running.
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Feb 10, 2016 20:18
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zoux posted:I think he gets in on a Trump/Bernie ticket, I think he stays out if it's establishment on both sides. I don't understand how Bloomberg running in is going to be a good thing in the long run. For whichever side loses, it's going to be the same story of "the moneyed interests of the party didn't like the candidate that we the people chose, so those bastards on wall street put their own muppet in the ticket and hosed US." On the left it's going to destroy the party for a generation and I don't even want to think about what would happen if this sank trump in the general.
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Feb 10, 2016 20:23
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Obama is currently giving a pretty kickass speech about politics in the US and his presidential success and failures.
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Feb 10, 2016 20:23
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Good news everyone!quote:The man in charge of Michigan’s investigation into the water crisis in Flint said on Tuesday that, if he found that state and county officials had committed “gross negligence” or a “breach of duty,” they could be hit with charges as severe as manslaughter. http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/02/flint-cases-could-yield-manslaughter-charges.html Oh and BTW quote:On Tuesday, city officials instructed residents to boil even their filtered tap water before using it, after a water-main break lowered pressure and may have allowed bacteria to collect. So that's happening
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Feb 10, 2016 20:24
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Business Gorillas posted:I don't understand how Bloomberg running in is going to be a good thing in the long run. For whichever side loses, it's going to be the same story of "the moneyed interests of the party didn't like the candidate that we the people chose, so those bastards on wall street put their own muppet in the ticket and hosed US." Uh who said it was a good thing?
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Feb 10, 2016 20:26
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Business Gorillas posted:I don't understand how Bloomberg running in is going to be a good thing in the long run. For whichever side loses, it's going to be the same story of "the moneyed interests of the party didn't like the candidate that we the people chose, so those bastards on wall street put their own muppet in the ticket and hosed US." If Bloomberg runs against Sanders, anything even that slightly looks like the DNC is not supporting Bernie fully is just going to lead to the image that they would rather lose than have a leftist in office, even if they really are. I don't see how that doesn't just totally gently caress the party that's already struggling to keep state seats and isn't looking to regain control of Congress for the foreseeable future. I'm not sure what Bloomberg's plan is here since while he may succeed in teaching those upstart kids their place it's not going to result in establishment Democrats being warmly received by anyone that supported Bernie which is becoming clear to be a significant chunk of the party. I kinda see this as him trying to scare people away from Sanders/Trump since running an election just to gently caress over the Democrats seems like exhausting and expensive counter productive waste of time. zoux posted:Uh who said it was a good thing? Bloomberg I guess. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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Feb 10, 2016 20:28
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why would anyone care about Bloomberg enough to vote for him over bernie or trump heck i don't even remember what he did other then he was a governor or mayor in New York or something like that
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Feb 10, 2016 20:42
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I think the idea would be that Bloomberg would appeal to the "moderates" of both parties. And he was an awful mayor of NYC
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Feb 10, 2016 20:44
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mandatory lesbian posted:why would anyone care about Bloomberg enough to vote for him over bernie or trump "Hi, I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal. Trump is too insane on social issues and Bernie is just going to be another tax-and-spend liberal. I like Bloomberg because he's pragmatic! He wants to compromise and wants to rein in spending but also supports the social issues I care about, like common sense gun control measures."
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Feb 10, 2016 20:46
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I'm not convinced that there are enough of those types that are also willing to let Trump/Cruz in office (since a vote for Bloomberg is 100% a protest vote against Sanders) to make a huge difference. Like that takes an impressive love for austerity economics at the expense of the social issues they supposedly care so much about. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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Feb 10, 2016 20:48
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Feb 10, 2016 20:51
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I don't think anyone can credibly tell you what that three way race would look like, in part because for it to happen, so many established rules about how elections work would have already faded.
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Feb 10, 2016 20:52
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Oxxidation posted:If Christie crashes and burns then the whole state will smell like bacon for a month. Please. This is New Jersey. It'll smell like pork roll.
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Feb 10, 2016 20:53
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DemeaninDemon posted:scotus protecting our freedoms to breath mercury. loving christ
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Feb 10, 2016 20:58
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KomradeX posted:I think the idea would be that Bloomberg would appeal to the "moderates" of both parties. And he was an awful mayor of NYC Prince Rebius is going around pushing the idea that he isn't scared of a Bloomberg run. Democrats will split in large numbers because he would ban guns and soda. Republicans wouldn't, because Bloomberg is obviously No True Conservative. I kind of like believing he actually thinks that.
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Feb 10, 2016 21:04
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Bloomberg is like the worst of both parties. He's a republican when it comes to loving over the poor and he a democrat when it comes to condescending to the poor about what they can and cannot have.
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Feb 10, 2016 21:06
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Ceiling fan posted:Prince Rebius is going around pushing the idea that he isn't scared of a Bloomberg run. Democrats will split in large numbers because he would ban guns and soda. Republicans wouldn't, because Bloomberg is obviously No True Conservative. I kind of like believing he actually thinks that. He's not wrong though. Republican voters are pretty much only openly fascists/racists or because of identity politics don't give a poo poo if the person they're supporting is an open fascist/racist because gently caress that other guy.
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Feb 10, 2016 21:07
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I don't know the division along ideological lines, but I'm going to take a crack at it before I go to look: For halting enforcement: Roberts Scalia Thomas Alito Kennedy Against: Sotomayor Ginsburg Breyer Kagan e: yup I was right, god I'm going to get so loving drunk when Scalia and Thomas eat poo poo and die ex post facho fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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Feb 10, 2016 21:07
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Ceiling fan posted:Prince Rebius Uh sorry, one of these words is an actual word and therefore cannot be part of the head of the RNC's name.
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Feb 10, 2016 21:08
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Radish posted:I'm not convinced that there are enough of those types that are also willing to let Trump/Cruz in office (since a vote for Bloomberg is 100% a protest vote against Sanders) to make a huge difference. We have a whole generation of these people, actually.
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a shameful boehner posted:e: yup I was right, god I'm going to get so loving drunk when Scalia and Thomas eat poo poo and die It works because if a R is in WH when this happens...
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