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A few weeks ago people predicted Tron dominance, and were already trying to figure out what parts of it would be banned. If Eye does get banned it would hurt the eldrazi, and be a nice slowing but not killing blow to Tron. It would allow Wizards to tweak 2 decks at once with one ban. It was hysterical hyperbole about Tron, but the possibility was clearly on peoples radar. Chairman Pow! fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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Angry Grimace posted:It doens't Eye is like a one-of. mcmagic is hyperbolic as ever. Not really. I'll find something else to play. I just really think eye isn't broken.
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Feb 10, 2016 22:10
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As someone who does not play modern, or standard, or really anything outside of drafts and prerelease: Theoretically, could they do something as small as say, ban mimic to stop the truly abusive fast starts of the deck?
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Feb 10, 2016 22:10
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My solution to modern is to end it and bring back extended.
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Feb 10, 2016 22:13
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Everblight posted:LCGs exist and are a niche product. The collectability (aka "shut up mom they're gonna be worth money someday!") aspect is in part what keeps Magic popular and any future competitor (even existing competitors like L5R and YuGiOh) will incorporate that aspect. It's too hard to make money as an LCG. L5R is going to be an LCG starting next year though
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Feb 10, 2016 22:17
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Kalli posted:As someone who does not play modern, or standard, or really anything outside of drafts and prerelease: It likely wouldn't be enough. The mimic allows some gross stuff like t1 2 mimics t2 TKS swing 8. However t2 TKS is pretty broken on its own, along with t3 Reality Smasher.
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Feb 10, 2016 22:19
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If eye gets banned, and I think its the most likey one to get banned I would be sad as it would be a big blow against tron but I would understand it.
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Feb 10, 2016 22:23
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Kilo147 posted:What if they banned modern? Used the new frame design for Modern 2.0 and added additional formats? I'm sure they'll move to this eventually. Po-mo format, only sets with machine readable cards
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Feb 10, 2016 22:27
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I had a game at regionals where I played an Urza's Tower and an Expedition Map and died before I untapped on my second turn. That is much worse for the format than anything Eye does. But then again modern sucks so I guess we have expect this kinda stuff.
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Feb 10, 2016 22:27
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Yeah you could have Modern with the new frames from last year, extended with all of what was modern, plus the new poo poo, and all the other formats remain. Doesn't seem like the worst thing, given enough time for new modern to build a decent card base. Also, last time I played FNM there was one guy with Troy, only playing because he couldn't use his Splinter Twin deck. Beyond that, everyone had a different setup. Hell, there was a guy playing Merfolk for Christsake. Am I lucky to have a casual FNM scene or is all the superdickery at pro tournaments and whatnot? Kilo147 fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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Feb 10, 2016 22:29
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On the topic of the Magic movie, I looked at the feature films that Hasbro has actually produced. The best movie on the list is probably Transformers (the original Michael Bay one). This does not bode well for the Magic movie. Other "highlights": Battleship, the My Little Pony movies, and Jem and the Holograms which was pulled from theaters within 2 weeks for being so awful.
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Feb 10, 2016 22:31
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Would it hurt the deck enough if they banned one of the new cards that caused it to suddenly be a deck? Like Thought-Knot Seer?
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Feb 10, 2016 22:31
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Literally The Worst posted:L5R is going to be an LCG starting next year though Also the only two companies to do LCGs or similar are Fantasy Flight, who has the copyright on the term and is doing the L5R one next year and is aready releasing Netrunner, GoT, and Star Wars, and AEG, who dicked up the Deadlands release and sold L5R to FFG There's also completely different marketing and business models involved and comparing the two is fuckin stupid BENGHAZI 2 fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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Feb 10, 2016 22:33
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As someone who watches but doesn't play Modern, I think Eye and one of Simian Spirit Guide or Temple eat bans when SOI drops. I think Spirit Guide might be more likely just because it also keeps Goryo's shenanigan decks slightly more in check as well.
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Feb 10, 2016 22:33
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I'm looking forward to Reality Smasher starring in "Siege Rhino 2: This Time Without the Color Restrictions" in standard.
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Feb 10, 2016 22:34
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Kilo147 posted:Also, last time I played FNM there was one guy with Troy, Did you call a judge on him for slow play during the ninth year of his match.
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Feb 10, 2016 22:35
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Playing against Jund with Through the Breach. Trying to dig for some kind of cards that do something and get the following draws off of an Izzet Charm and Faithless Looting: 1) Jace, Vryn's Prodigy, 2) Jace, Vryn's Prodigy, 3) Jace, Vryn's Prodigy, 4) Jace, Vryn's Prodigy I did not win.
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Feb 10, 2016 22:35
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whydirt posted:As someone who watches but doesn't play Modern, I think Eye and one of Simian Spirit Guide or Temple eat bans when SOI drops. I think Spirit Guide might be more likely just because it also keeps Goryo's shenanigan decks slightly more in check as well. Honestly, I am hoping for the trifecta, Eye, Temple and Spirit Guide.
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Feb 10, 2016 22:35
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ThePeavstenator posted:I'm looking forward to Reality Smasher starring in "Siege Rhino 2: This Time Without the Color Restrictions" in standard. Reflector Mage is 10x more annoying than Siege Rhino and Reality Smasher combined.
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Feb 10, 2016 22:38
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Zoness posted:Did you call a judge on him for slow play during the ninth year of his match. I probably should have, but it gave me a chance to read The Iliad at least.
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Feb 10, 2016 22:39
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mcmagic posted:Reflector Mage is 10x more annoying than Siege Rhino and Reality Smasher combined. Reflector Mage leaves behind a subpar body and makes you play blue and white. Reality Smasher was apparently supposed to be costed <> <> <> <> but that was "too restrictive" for deckbuilding.
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Feb 10, 2016 22:40
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Ultima66 posted:The best movie on the list is probably Transformers (the original Michael Bay one). This does not bode well for the Magic movie. Other "highlights": Battleship, the My Little Pony movies, and Jem and the Holograms which was pulled from theaters within 2 weeks for being so awful. If the Magic movie involves Shia and his psychotic parents from Transformers being "pulled into the game" a la Jumanji, I'm in. It will probably be bland Warcraft Avengers though.
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Feb 10, 2016 22:40
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mcmagic posted:Reflector Mage is 10x more annoying than Siege Rhino and Reality Smasher combined. Reflector Mage is obscenely good. 3 mana for a 2/3 that in the late game can almost be a double timewalk is silly. But don't get me wrong Reality Smasher is better (at least in modern).
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Feb 10, 2016 22:41
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Madmarker posted:Reflector Mage is obscenely good. 3 mana for a 2/3 that in the late game can almost be a double timewalk is silly. It also comes down at instant speed a lot of the time. The card is oppressive.
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Feb 10, 2016 22:42
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I would just like to clarify that Reflector Mage is a really good card but there are deckbuilding considerations attached to it beyond "can I produce 1 colorless mana by turn 5?" E: Madmarker posted:Reflector Mage is obscenely good. 3 mana for a 2/3 that in the late game can almost be a double timewalk is silly. I think it will be better in Standard too after rotation due to the existence of painlands and the fact that Evolving Wilds will be what's available for mana fixing. It's a fantastic curve-topper for aggro/midrange and could even be a control finisher thanks to the forced 2-for-1 involved in killing it. ThePeavstenator fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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Feb 10, 2016 22:42
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ThePeavstenator posted:I'm looking forward to Reality Smasher starring in "Siege Rhino 2: This Time Without the Color Restrictions" in standard. Bugsy posted:From Caleb D's stream. You got your eldrazi in my rhinos! No, you got your rhinos in my eldrazi!
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Feb 10, 2016 22:55
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I keep seeing Cranial Archives in standard sideboards, what do they get brought in for? Hate against Rally decks?
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Feb 10, 2016 22:57
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mcmagic posted:It also comes down at instant speed a lot of the time. The card is oppressive. vvv Oh right. Thanks! Yawgmoth fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Feb 11, 2016 |
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Feb 10, 2016 22:57
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Entropic posted:I keep seeing Cranial Archives in standard sideboards, what do they get brought in for? Hate against Rally decks? Rally? Yawgmoth posted:How does it come down at instant speed? Collected Company?
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Feb 10, 2016 22:59
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Forgot the MAGIC STORY SUMMARY, so I'll just re-paste from GAF:quote:* Kiora is still around and is perfectly willing to help fight. Nothing suggests that she's about to leave. Chandra only sort of seems like she's going to kill UlaKozi with fire. The story from today is mostly going on about how the "Roil" on Zendikar is the plane's attempt to consume and break down the Eldrazi titans but it can't due to the fact that the Hedrons suppress their ability to do so. The current plan is apparently for Jace to organize the troops, Nissa to trace a mana-leyline that will momentarily trap them and pull them into Zendikar (because reasons) and then they're going to beat them up and hope the Plane eats them. // Reflector Mage chat: it is a mildly annoying card made legit annoying by virtue of the fact that its played primarily in a Magical Christmasland combo deck that exists because some idiot at WOTC was too drunk/high to figure out that typed duals that get better as you play the game were loving stupid with fetchlands. On separate occasions we have heard that 4 color decks were not tested by FFL and neither was Reflector Mage in constructed. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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Feb 10, 2016 23:03
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I picked up a playset of both Eye and Temple for like $2 per card right around the start of online rumblings that Modern Eldrazi could be a thing, and was hoping to put together my first ever Modern deck (involving Processors and Ashiok). Nothing too overpowered, just something to run out for fun that could take some games and not fold horribly to overwrought format staple decks. From the sounds of things if I do put together such a deck it's not going to be hanging around for very long due to people abusing two cards. As a responsible Eldrazi Temple/Eye of Ugin owner, I understand why there are calls to ban out both cards but at the same time am very disappointed that my first foray into the format looks like it's going to get shut down before even starting. Is this what it feels like to be a TFR regular?
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Feb 10, 2016 23:06
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Entropic posted:I keep seeing Cranial Archives in standard sideboards, what do they get brought in for? Hate against Rally decks? Yeah
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Feb 10, 2016 23:12
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Angry Grimace posted:Forgot the MAGIC STORY SUMMARY, so I'll just re-paste from GAF: So really all Chandra is doing is cooking the two so Zendikar can have a nice Draziroast? Nice.
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Feb 10, 2016 23:12
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Also, another awkward mind-meld between Nissa and Jace.
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Feb 10, 2016 23:14
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It's horrible. You can't be holding up 2 mana like that in most standard decks. You're better off playing Burn Away... not that that isn't horrible too.
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Feb 10, 2016 23:17
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It seems like if you're going to be holding up two mana anyway, hallowed moonlight would be better.
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Feb 10, 2016 23:19
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Pro Tour Gauntlet is pretty fun, but its pretty funny seeing just how many punts everyone (self included) are making.
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Feb 10, 2016 23:19
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Ultima66 posted:and Jem and the Holograms which was pulled from theaters within 2 weeks for being so awful. I remember there being prerelease drama about casting choices, but this is the first I heard of the film itself failing.
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Feb 10, 2016 23:21
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Wizards is pretty likely to ban both Eye and Temple for the same reason they banned Cruise and Dig: they don't want to be back there in 3 months doing the same thing.
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Feb 10, 2016 23:25
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Kalli posted:As someone who does not play modern, or standard, or really anything outside of drafts and prerelease: Nope. Casting 8 mana worth of spells for 4 mana is still degenerate. Eye of Ugin can never be balanced in the deck with how strong the 4 and 5 drops are.
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