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Vanguard Warden
Apr 5, 2009

I am holding a live frag grenade.
The thing that's been dragging down Dragon's Dogma for me has been the dragons. There are a few different variations, but generally you have to kill a dragon by attacking the glowing spot on its chest, between its arms. A dragon usually stands in a way that the spot is just outside of your melee attack range vertically. It's also incredibly fiddly to latch onto, because you can't grab 'up', and a dragon's chest will usually be facing straight down. You could climb into place, but dragons generally spend the whole fight flipping the gently caress out, so you'll be fighting the camera constantly. If you do manage to get into place, the way the climbing system works means that you'll stick onto one of its arms instead as it moves around.

I've had the same fight against a drake take me as little as one minute, and as long as ten minutes.

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Gitro
May 29, 2013
Have you considered playing a Warrior? :v:

It's a bit too pricey for me to buy the PC port just yet, but back when I played the only real postgame/BB useful weapon I had was the Dragon's Dogma itself, so I was stuck playing sword using classes against anything I wasn't monstrously overlevelled for. Assassin is a great, flexible class, but it kinda sucked having meaningful damage gated behind random drops for anyone else that wasn't a Fighter. Do you get the infinite fast travel stone in the PC version?

One of the best status effects you can apply is most easily gained by upgrading your godawful starting weapons to level 3, IIRC. They're surprisingly difficult to get again if you don't realise this and sell them early on.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

Vanguard Warden posted:

You could climb into place, but dragons generally spend the whole fight flipping the gently caress out

This is something that frustrates me with the climb-able enemies. Sometimes they will just decide any time you dare climb on top of them they'll spam the "shake off" animation and kill your stamina unless you jump off. Then you jump off and jump back on and they're doing it again.

Also sometimes you'll teleport around enemies you're climbing on when they do certain animations or, my favorite, get close to a wall or trees or something else and the game "pushes" you through the body and on the other side. Yeah, I didn't want to cut off that hydra's head.

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

Leal posted:

This is something that frustrates me with the climb-able enemies. Sometimes they will just decide any time you dare climb on top of them they'll spam the "shake off" animation and kill your stamina unless you jump off. Then you jump off and jump back on and they're doing it again.

This is obnoxious (the gryphon and cockatrice love to do it, which mega sucks if you're a warrior because it's the only way you can get much damage in) but if you have a sorcerer pawn around it usually means meteors are soon inbound because the boss isn't attacking them while it's trying to shake you off.

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

Digirat posted:

This is obnoxious (the gryphon and cockatrice love to do it, which mega sucks if you're a warrior because it's the only way you can get much damage in) but if you have a sorcerer pawn around it usually means meteors are soon inbound because the boss isn't attacking them while it's trying to shake you off.

Also, some of the big bastards' weak spots make no sense. What the gently caress do you mean the tusks are the ogres' weak spots?

On the other hand, it's a fair price to play for the sheer loving chaos of trying desperately to cut the greatclub out of an ogre's hand before he beats the wizard to death with it.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


oldpainless posted:

She became a woman

I didn't know becoming a woman means you wear sleevless hoodie/tank top things and have a long ponytail (?) that goes under the hood.

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

Len posted:

I didn't know becoming a woman means you wear sleevless hoodie/tank top things and have a long ponytail (?) that goes under the hood.

You didn't? Growing up in Animehouse is weird.

Anyway one thing that drags down Digimon Story: Cyber sleuth is that there's one dungeon you have to revisit a lot. That's not the bad part, I expect that poo poo out of a JRPG. The bad part is that it has the single worst music track in the game so far and its visual design is really uninteresting compared to literally every other location as far as I've played.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

Somfin posted:

Also, some of the big bastards' weak spots make no sense. What the gently caress do you mean the tusks are the ogres' weak spots?

On the other hand, it's a fair price to play for the sheer loving chaos of trying desperately to cut the greatclub out of an ogre's hand before he beats the wizard to death with it.

Cyclops weak spot isn't the tusk, it'll just freak out if you chop its tusk off. At least I don't think it's the tusk, I've aways been too busy flailing at the eye to see how chopping the tusk off affects the damage meter

SkeletonHero
Sep 7, 2010

:dehumanize:
:killing:
:dehumanize:
I'm pretty sure the only thing knocking off a cyclops tusk does is get you a cyclops tusk to craft with later.

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

SkeletonHero posted:

I'm pretty sure the only thing knocking off a cyclops tusk does is get you a cyclops tusk to craft with later.

It does immediately stagger the bastard, which is a nice side-effect, even if it doesn't do any bonus damage.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Inco posted:

Jesus, the final boss of Bowser's Inside Story is loving terrible. You have to attack Dark Bowser enough times to make Fawful vulnerable, then vacuum Fawful so Mario & Luigi can fight him. Then you have to take out Fawful's three legs so the core can be hit, but the legs will dodge your attacks unless you destroy Fawful's two eyes. That's 6 targets to take down until you can actually do any damage to the final boss, and after a couple of turns, the whole thing starts over again.

I've been in this fight for 45 minutes. Luigi and Bowser are both incapable of dying in a single turn unless I don't make any attempt to defend. I have an item stockpile a doomsday prepper would get rock hard over. I can't lose. It's boring as gently caress.

Yeah, by BIS the final boss' difficulty took a nosedive. Superstar Saga was a rough battle and Partners in Time was two bosses in a row.

Action Tortoise
Feb 18, 2012

A wolf howls.
I know how he feels.

Len posted:

I didn't know becoming a woman means you wear sleevless hoodie/tank top things and have a long ponytail (?) that goes under the hood.

are you there, yevon? it's me, yuna

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received

Action Tortoise posted:

are you there, yevon? it's me, yuna

Oh so she's just adjusting poorly because she killed God and can't ask Him for guidance anymore.

Makes sense.

Morglon
Jan 13, 2010

Safe and sound, detached from reality.
Just like your posting.

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

Oh so she's just adjusting poorly because she killed God and can't ask Him for guidance anymore.

Makes sense.

Well she did break a system that had been in place for a thousand years and sacrificed allies on the way so yeah that's gonna leave some scars. Why did her costume change? T&A. The entire game is mostly T&A.

Morglon has a new favorite as of 20:32 on Feb 10, 2016

Morpheus
Apr 18, 2008

My favourite little monsters
Just an FYI, this is what Samus looked like in the Metroid comic (also the 1994 Super Metroid strategy guide, which was awesome):

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.


What's Samus Aran's excuse for starting every mission without her equipment? Zelda has the excuse that it stars a new Link every other game, but there's only one of her.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Inspector Gesicht posted:

What's Samus Aran's excuse for starting every mission without her equipment? Zelda has the excuse that it stars a new Link every other game, but there's only one of her.

In Other M it was because her ex-commanding officer told her she couldn't use her equipment. Which lead to stuff like going into an extremely hot area of the ship and getting damage because he didn't say you could use the Varia upgrade yet.

Elfface
Nov 14, 2010

Da-na-na-na-na-na-na
IRON JONAH
My headcanon is that ancient artifacts found in abandoned Chozo temples don't last more than one final boss and a few side-missions before they burn out.

Caphi
Jan 6, 2012

INCREDIBLE

Inspector Gesicht posted:

What's Samus Aran's excuse for starting every mission without her equipment? Zelda has the excuse that it stars a new Link every other game, but there's only one of her.

In 4, an X parasite steals her armor and she's using a different suit. SA-X actually uses her poo poo in the game.

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received

Caphi posted:

In 4, an X parasite steals her armor and she's using a different suit. SA-X actually uses her poo poo in the game.

Her armor gets infected by the parasite and she has to have it surgically removed, actually.

The first Prime game starts with all her powers from the first game and they're immediately lost very early on. The rest of the Prime games go like this IIRC.

Why she's not got things at the start of Return of Samus or Super is beyond me. Especially Super since it follows Return pretty close and I don't see why she'd toss her stuff just because the last Metroid is in captivity. There's other weird bugs to shoot!

Slime
Jan 3, 2007

Inspector Gesicht posted:

What's Samus Aran's excuse for starting every mission without her equipment? Zelda has the excuse that it stars a new Link every other game, but there's only one of her.

Chozo are really strict about their DRM, and her licence for the upgrades expires between games.

Febreeze
Oct 24, 2011

I want to care, butt I dont
In Metroid, it's because it's the first game

In Metroid 2, because it's an early game boy game story didn't matter

In Super Metroid, really it's because it's just a souped up remake of the first one

In Prime 1 an explosion fucks up her suit

In Prime 2 a bunch of dimensional beings "steal" her powers, which is stupid as gently caress, but then they use them against her in boss battles, which is actually awesome (except gently caress the Boost guardian)

In Prime 3, she actually has her basic powerups already, but she gets infected with Phazon and they modify her suit

in Fusion, a parasite infection requires surgical removal, and that parasite uses her poo poo against her later, which is awesome

in Metroid other M, because the writer was a loving idiot


But really, it's so that they can keep the exploratory gameplay each time

Inco
Apr 3, 2009

I have been working out! My modem is broken and my phone eats half the posts I try to make, including all the posts I've tried to make here. I'll try this one more time.

Inspector Gesicht posted:

What's Samus Aran's excuse for starting every mission without her equipment? Zelda has the excuse that it stars a new Link every other game, but there's only one of her.

In Prime, an explosion damaged her suit's systems, forcing her to lose all the upgrades from Metroid.

In Prime 2, the Ing infiltrate her suit and take the subsystems away. She also leaves the suit and weapon upgrades on the planet at the end because they belonged to the Luminoth.

In Prime 3, Samus gets hit with Phazon and has to have a new suit constructed that keeps her from dying to the radiation the Phazon produces. Her old systems are presumably not compatible with the PED Suit. She then loses the PED suit at the end, and no longer has her upgrades available for Metroid II.

I don't think it's ever explained in Super Metroid.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Inspector Gesicht posted:

What's Samus Aran's excuse for starting every mission without her equipment? Zelda has the excuse that it stars a new Link every other game, but there's only one of her.

I guess the same as Batman's.

Sleeveless
Dec 25, 2014

by Pragmatica

Caphi posted:

In 4, an X parasite steals her armor and she's using a different suit. SA-X actually uses her poo poo in the game.

They'll never make an actual sequel to Fusion because at the end of that game she's some terrifying human/Chozo/Metroid/SA-X chimera with her armor biologically fused to her skin. She's basically as hosed up as whatever bio-cyborg resurrection Ridley is on now.

BlueKingBar
Jan 25, 2016

Hey guys let's just literally never talk to me again maybe that'll fix things

Morpheus posted:

Just an FYI, this is what Samus looked like in the Metroid comic (also the 1994 Super Metroid strategy guide, which was awesome):



So Samus shrunk. A lot.

I feel like there's a fetish for that on the internet somewhere.

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

Sleeveless posted:

They'll never make an actual sequel to Fusion because at the end of that game she's some terrifying human/Chozo/Metroid/SA-X chimera with her armor biologically fused to her skin. She's basically as hosed up as whatever bio-cyborg resurrection Ridley is on now.

Fun fusion fact. It was also written by Sakamoto and the plot of Other M is basically the exact same. He had one idea and did it. Then did it again.

RyokoTK
Feb 12, 2012

I am cool.

BlueKingBar posted:

So Samus shrunk. A lot.

I feel like there's a fetish for that on the internet somewhere.

Oh c'mon, you know there's a fetish for that on the internet.

moosecow333
Mar 15, 2007

Super-Duper Supermen!

muscles like this? posted:

In Other M it was because her ex-commanding officer told her she couldn't use her equipment. Which lead to stuff like going into an extremely hot area of the ship and getting damage because he didn't say you could use the Varia upgrade yet.

God, how I wish you were joking about this. The 'best' part about it is that even though the guy has literally no actual authority over her but she still listens to him because of daddy issues or something.

AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

...

GARVASE DAY!

There is exactly one moment in the game where she uses something without permission, and it takes him being dead, and what could have been a sort of not really mildly redeeming character moment is wasted by having the game not even mention it's unlocked, when you need to use it to not die at the end of the final boss. :ughh:

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

AlphaKretin posted:

There is exactly one moment in the game where she uses something without permission, and it takes him being dead, and what could have been a sort of not really mildly redeeming character moment is wasted by having the game not even mention it's unlocked, when you need to use it to not die at the end of the final boss. :ughh:

There's actually three. You're thinking of the last one, the Power Bomb. She uses the Space Jump of her own volition when Adam is AWOL and of debatable trustworthiness, and the Gravity Suit just after he sacrifices himself.

Still loving stupid, and nothing will ever excuse the Varia Suit debacle, but she did shirk authorization more than once.

EDIT: Also, I actually thought the Power Bomb was one of the few good moments of the game, specifically because they don't tell you that you can use it. It's on you to remember the relatively simple way to execute a Power Bomb (that you could always wind up, but never execute) that you were taught at the start of the game, and use it against an enemy that specifically set you up for it, since the Metroid Queen is vulnerable to much that same tactic in Metroid II.

Cleretic has a new favorite as of 03:46 on Feb 11, 2016

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




AlphaKretin posted:

There is exactly one moment in the game where she uses something without permission, and it takes him being dead, and what could have been a sort of not really mildly redeeming character moment is wasted by having the game not even mention it's unlocked, when you need to use it to not die at the end of the final boss. :ughh:

That time she was nearly sucked into space wasn't authorized either was it?

AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

...

GARVASE DAY!

Shows you how much I remember of the game. :downs: Still all took him being AWOL/dead and the Power Bomb was still majority dumb.

Inco
Apr 3, 2009

I have been working out! My modem is broken and my phone eats half the posts I try to make, including all the posts I've tried to make here. I'll try this one more time.

Sleeveless posted:

They'll never make an actual sequel to Fusion because at the end of that game she's some terrifying human/Chozo/Metroid/SA-X chimera with her armor biologically fused to her skin. She's basically as hosed up as whatever bio-cyborg resurrection Ridley is on now.

Only if they break from what Sakamoto's said. His notes say that when she absorbed the SA-X, it cancelled out the gene alterations the Metroid vaccine introduced, reverting her physiology back to pre-infection status.

Sakamoto's a loving hack, is what I'm saying.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

BlueKingBar posted:

So Samus shrunk. A lot.

I feel like there's a fetish for that on the internet somewhere.

There's also fetishists for freakishly huge muscle women, going down the fetish road is a losing prospect

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

🐘🪠🍆

BlueKingBar posted:

So Samus shrunk. A lot.

I feel like there's a fetish for that on the internet somewhere.

Here's a kindleporn book on that.

It was the first result for "shrunken woman". I guess there's not that much non-fetishy stuff in such a weird category.

RyokoTK
Feb 12, 2012

I am cool.

Inco posted:

Sakamoto's a loving hack, is what I'm saying.

I think the problem was trying to put the plot on the top layer, rather than letting the environment tell the story like with Prime 1. Metroid's plot is kind of stupid, and if you don't call attention to Samus losing her gear, nobody's going to worry about it because everyone is perfectly aware that it's a gameplay conceit. But when you try to have this big complex space opera epic behind it, it becomes pretty obvious how puerile the setting and characters are.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
I had two problems with EDF 2025 on the PS3. One of them was the frame rate. I've now got EDF 4.1 on PS4 and the frame rate is much smoother. But they didn't fix my other problem with the game, which was that when a building collapses there isn't enough smoke! They couldn't have much smoke on PS3 because the frame rate was bad enough as it was but the PS4 has frames to spare, so dial up the smoke! As it is I can see the bits of building falling into the floor and it doesn't look good. The effect was done better in the old PS2 version which used- can you guess?- lots and lots of smoke.

Also I tried to upload a screenshot and when it was done the game hadn't paused and I'd been killed by enemies while uploading my screenshot. Does it not auto-pause? Presumably that's a setting somewhere I can change?

Slime
Jan 3, 2007

Sleeveless posted:

They'll never make an actual sequel to Fusion because at the end of that game she's some terrifying human/Chozo/Metroid/SA-X chimera with her armor biologically fused to her skin. She's basically as hosed up as whatever bio-cyborg resurrection Ridley is on now.

The sad thing is I think that would actually be really rad. It's also kind of sad that Adam in Fusion was way more likable than he was in Other M, and that Adam was an AI copy that had more excuses for the lovely things and still ends up being less lovely than in Other M.

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AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

...

GARVASE DAY!

Slime posted:

The sad thing is I think that would actually be really rad.
It really would be. :smith: Doubly so because after crashing the now-revealed-to-be-immoral Federation's station into a planet under their jurisdiction she'd be on the run with them as the new, interesting antagonists. Dammit I'm gonna shut up before I make myself want this more. gently caress Other M.

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