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Oh my, so I had two kinds of mechs, (pallette swap has more health) second tier soldier boys (much of the same), weird acid aliens, final fantasy floating rear end in a top hat, clone psycho matrix harpies and whatnot, and I was thinking where the gently caress are the cryssalids, so finaly they show up and they are such complete CHUMPS I don't even know. This was the easiest retaliation mission I ever did including the very first one.
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InequalityGodzilla posted:Uhhhgg. That sucks. Wish they got at least some stat boosts from being in combat. Guess my Chinese psychic GI Jane is going to be sitting in a lab cell for at least another 2-3 weeks so she can actually be fielded without having to be babysat by the rest of the team. You can field them while they're in the lab. MECs are in this but only on the enemy side. You'll have to hack one if you wanna play around with them.
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Zomborgon posted:https://xcom.com/xcom-2-stats Oh hey, apparently no one has finished the game. Or the stats for updating all that are bugged. Edit: Also what a weird stat to post, about how many of a particular unit has been killed. Of course troopers are going to be the most commonly killed one, that is the one you see the most and the earliest? Edit 2: vvv I'm going to presume here but I'm guessing either it doesn't count kills correctly or they're counting you falling through roofs as collateral when aliens blow you up on them. evilmiera fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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Feb 10, 2016 23:32
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Zomborgon posted:https://xcom.com/xcom-2-stats  I've lost soldiers to enemy fire but I don't think I've ever hosed up positioning to the point were I lost one to collateral damage. 67% is insane--I'd understand if it was like 20%, but holy poo poo.
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evilmiera posted:Oh hey, apparently no one has finished the game. Or the stats for updating all that are bugged. I like the cost to repair all the windows and doors broken by x-com operatives. Over $1 billion in broken windows and doors!
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Wait, this does make me wonder, are some of the long loading times less to do with the actual game's loading or from sending so much data to overloaded servers when the game came out?
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I'm starting to get annoyed at all these mods I'm interested in that say "REQUIRES RESISTANCE WARRIOR DLC" and apparently don't work AT ALL if it's not installed. I wasn't able to pre-order, so I get screwed out of interesting mods  I honestly hope there's another way to get access to it, I've never been a fan of exclusive pre-order bonuses that are 100% gone forever if you didn't buy the game before it came out. BlazetheInferno fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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Feb 10, 2016 23:40
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evilmiera posted:Wait, this does make me wonder, are some of the long loading times less to do with the actual game's loading or from sending so much data to overloaded servers when the game came out? I think it may only send the data when you finish a game. I know that when I lost it tried to send the data(but couldn't do to connection issues with the server, probably server being overloaded).
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Has anyone played with the Long War Studios mods yet? I'm thinking when I do another campaign after this one I'll mod it up and those look pretty decent.
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Kenshin posted:
I'm wondering if "collateral damage" also includes damage over time stuff like being lit on fire/poisoned/acid soaked. BlazetheInferno posted:I'm starting to get annoyed at all these mods I'm interested in that say "REQUIRES RESISTANCE WARRIOR DLC" and apparently don't work AT ALL if it's not installed. It will almost assuredly be exactly like Enemy Unknown where they'll release the preorder cosmetic DLC as a buyable DLC pack in like a month or two. Harrow posted:Has anyone played with the Long War Studios mods yet? I'm thinking when I do another campaign after this one I'll mod it up and those look pretty decent. My first run through was with all three. SMGs are largely filler weapons that I found good on psi ops and no one else because while the mobility is super great I really can't handle giving up the accuracy or damage on someone who is going to be shooting consistently. Muton Centurions make the midgame a little bit harder because they're basically just tougher Mutons. The Commander mod is really neat in concept and some of the bonuses are really strong but it is let down very badly by not working like psi op training; once you commit someone to commander training, you can't use them on missions without pulling them out and resetting the training completely, making it a huge pain in the rear end to use. Kanos fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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YHarrow posted:Has anyone played with the Long War Studios mods yet? I'm thinking when I do another campaign after this one I'll mod it up and those look pretty decent. Yes. The new muton is just a melee oriented muton. I haven't even touched the smgs or leaders.
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Really want resistance versions of later tier armors in a mod so XCOM wears increasingly denser and metallic shirts
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Zomborgon posted:https://xcom.com/xcom-2-stats 
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Has anyone here have any troops that were actually killed by a zombie?
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I obviously need to tweak the appearance, but I'm almost done with this mod Does the shield icon look good to you guys? I figured it'd be confusing if I just used the cover icon. Peewi fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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Feb 10, 2016 23:53
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Uhh, I've only ever had a single zombie even get an attack off - and it did four damage to a soldier in Phalanx armor at full health (because armor)
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Wow. Khisanth Magus posted:Has anyone here have any troops that were actually killed by a zombie? I've never even had a troop get hit by a zombie.
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Peewi posted:I obviously need to tweak the appearance, but I'm almost done with this mod Nah that shield icon is whack. I had no idea what it was. Maybe change it to a diamond shape? Also, I'd say go with health | armor | shield instead of shield | health | armor.
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Jim DiGriz posted:Oh hey, a retaliaton against a rebel camp. Ugh, running around and trying to control ground while civilians are getting murdered on the other side of the map. And then we drop, and suddenly I have to find my screenshot key. This is way better than the retaliation mission I got where two thirds of the civilians were standing on top of a fuel depot next to a Gatekeeper pod on the other side of the map
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Harrow posted:Wow. I was hit once, on a panicked soldier that couldn't move out of the way and the sectoid that raised it was hiding out someplace. It hardly even hurt.
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I never got hurt by a zombie, but to be fair I got clued in that Sectoids are goddamn morons who do psi stuff which are far less dangerous than just shooting me.
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I can believe the collateral damage stat. Grenade hitting XCom and Car, both asplode, 10 damage. Ouch.
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Zomborgon posted:https://xcom.com/xcom-2-stats I'm honestly really surprised Rangers are attributed most enemy kills. My rangers almost always spent most of their time in the medbay. My two colonel sharpshooters on the other hand had about 80 and 60 kills at the end of the game.
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i think the game gets confused by psionically controlled enemies and mimic beacons also, i finished commander ironman. random thoughts * gently caress those flying archon shitheads. i hate them, and not in a "ha ha ha" fun enemy way, i hate them being in the game. they're mostly harmless, except, they take too long to kill, and their dumb loving "brawhaiugh im angry i got shot D:< " animation needs to stop playing and be replaced with one where they respectfully kill themselves in deference to their worthlessness. *most endgame foes are just a chore due to how much damage they soak up, really. * stasis op. like gently caress if stasis didnt exist the game would be a lot more difficult. insanity at least doesn't work on non organics and has a chance of failure, stasis completely invalidates the threat posed by the centerpiece baddies like sectopods. although even without that, those things tend to just get the poo poo blown out of them the second they show up, stasis just means you can kill the random troops or archons milling around them. it really doesn't help that unless you activate a bunch of pods at once, you tend to outnumber the aliens (and abusing dominate just makes it even more extreme), so trading one turn from your team for one turn of theirs just drives in the imbalance in numbers in even harder. * lategame gets really boring not just because its easy, but because its so predictable as well. find pod, lock down dudes, murder pod, murder rest of pod, move on to next. * poor mutons show up for like one month, look scary, then get replaced by more loving archons. * why would anyone not go maximum explosions on grenadiers? i dont even remember what most of their skills are since "more guaranteed damage and armor reduction" is a hard thing to pass up on. * i dont really want to play on legend, since people claim its long war lite and im apparently the only guy on earth who thinks vanilla xcom drags on too long and had too high hp values across the board as it is
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Khisanth Magus posted:Has anyone here have any troops that were actually killed by a zombie? Yes. My first Commander campaign died on the first Retaliation mission. Ended a turn with 1 sectoid in view. Figured he'd uselessly raise a zombie. He did. Then one of the civilians turns into a Faceless! Well that's new, but whatever; how much harm could it do? Then it ran over, did a ridiculous jump in the air, and punched my roof-perched sharpshooter in the face for 3 damage. Which still would've been fine except it collapsed the roof. Sharpshooter falls to her death. 2 of my remaining 3 units panic, including one that ended up in range of the zombie. My last unit can't kill the sectoid on her own, so the zombie gets a free kill the next turn. Total squad wipe because I didn't know about Faceless or that Faceless can blow up everything around them.
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So I had a snake that grabbed a guy into an area where no one could aim at without several turns of repositioning except for one guy who missed of course. I figured he'd last another 2 damage hit. Nope, second round of crushing, he took 6 damage.
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khy posted:I can believe the collateral damage stat. I guess I learned in EU/EW never to use cars for cover unless I was absolutely sure the soldier was not going to get shot at. Also in this game, don't use propane tanks for cover.
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Khisanth Magus posted:I like the cost to repair all the windows and doors broken by x-com operatives. Over $1 billion in broken windows and doors! I like that that figure doesnt even include "city blocks leveled by acid grenades"
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Musluk posted:Nah that shield icon is whack. I had no idea what it was. Maybe change it to a diamond shape? Also, I'd say go with health | armor | shield instead of shield | health | armor. I arranged them like that because the normal health bars have shields above health, but yeah health | armor | shield is probably better. I don't really see how a diamond would imply shields. If I don't come up with something better I might just go with the cover icon, but orange.
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Okay I was doing a mission where I had to recover a container before it could be destroyed. I found the container and I triggered a hazmat guy next to it. Said guy runs through the truck that the container is in, blowing up the truck with the container. The mission instantly failed I feel like alt f4ing to undo a turn in iron man is sometimes acceptable
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Peewi posted:I arranged them like that because the normal health bars have shields above health, but yeah health | armor | shield is probably better. And a shield symbol is already used by cover. Maybe concentric circles?
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When do most people here reload their games? I have reloaded mine like, twice, to test stuff like 'how long will this mission remain if I try to heal up first? oh, one day? *reload*', but I never reload on a hosed up mission or a bad shot or anything. Thankfully I haven't had game breaking bugs either. I restarted the campaign a couple of times on a death spiral but on my second or third try, I forgot, I'm going to win it. All fights with 2 magii are total cakewalks. I mean, I know people are playing on legendary and commander, but, is everyone on those difficulties actually 'on that difficulty' or are you reloading if you lose too many people? Seeing that other guy who has a not-full-of-majors squad for his final mission, mine looks a little like that. I had 3 majors but one was kidnapped/left behind, now I have maybe 3 still, 2 magii, but tons of weapons and weapon parts, and am on veteran at the final mission. I mean if you play normally you're going to have some top ranked people die.
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I'm starting to get pissed at the UI when it comes to dealing with concealment and LoS. Safe move? Yep, UI says so. Oh wait, no, no it wasn't. Haha pod activated on last move gently caress you! Similar problem when it comes to dealing with a single concealed ranger and the rest of your squad. Figuring out what squares its safe to move on is a giant pain in the rear end because it won't highlight what spaces will activate a pod, you have to watch the LoS indicator for every single space on the move manually.
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I give myself a restary mission reload, and for obvious stupid bugs like cursor jumping and plain old misclicks (oops accidentally shot the vip instead of the sectoid) Idgaf about save/loading in the strategic layer
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Minorkos posted:I feel like alt f4ing to undo a turn in iron man is sometimes acceptable
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SynthOrange posted:I give myself a restary mission reload, and for obvious stupid bugs like cursor jumping and plain old misclicks (oops accidentally shot the vip instead of the sectoid) I shot the vip twice in a row (in my first 2 rescue vip missions, only one was this campaign), and just shrugged, laughed and carried on. THAT'S EX COM! Misclicks resulting in pod activations + deaths... yeah I'd reload for that.
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Taratang posted:Don't try that on a map with chrysalids unless you've backed up your save. That sounds oddly specific. Why? EDIT: Oh hey someone wanted a mod that allows you to add characters that were amazing until they died to your character pool for round 2. Here it is.
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Once, while I was still in concealment, I was sneaking along the roof of a building. Then one of my people, who must weigh like 500 lbs or something, somehow broke every window down below as he ran across the roof, instantly alerting all the nearby enemies. I was less than thrilled.Dinictus posted:That sounds oddly specific. Chrystalids will sometimes cause the game to freeze if you load a mission where they are present.
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Oh ffs now it's not even showing my custom weapons as unique when they upgrade, I just have to manually unequip each weapon each soldier has, see if it shows up differently after, then rename it.
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