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The first part of The Hobbit is very, very good in its extended cut. The whole trilogy is worth it for the Appendices, though. It's film school in a box. I'm actually watching all of them from LOTR as well. Surprisingly honest, too.
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Speaking of LOTR, does the Blu Ray extended editions have any features the DVD extended editions do not?
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Boinks posted:Are 4K upscaling blu-ray players worth it? Is there much of an improvement over say a PS3 or should I just save the money for the eventual 4K media player price drop in a few years? The first 4K UHD Blu-Ray player, the Samsung UBD-K8500, is already available and it's $399.99. So this isn't like the original HD-DVD / Blu-Ray launch where the players were $1000 and up (or 599 US Dollars for the PS3).
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CaptainYesterday posted:Speaking of LOTR, does the Blu Ray extended editions have any features the DVD extended editions do not? The version I have has literally the same bonus discs, in DVD format, as the DVD editions. Only the movie discs are upgraded.
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egon_beeblebrox posted:The version I have has literally the same bonus discs, in DVD format, as the DVD editions. Only the movie discs are upgraded. Well, glad I can save my money then!
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CaptainYesterday posted:Well, glad I can save my money then! The extended cuts look and sound great, though. Fellowship is a little rough despite it being a new 2K from the negative. Mainly because 70% is early digital intermediate internegative. It's sort of like how the pre-4K remaster of O Brother Where Art Thou had black crush from day one, but it's not in the remaster because of better scanners. I read that even the opening New Line logo had to be digitally restored by Weta because they sent a crappy dupe for them to use. The DVDs are still amazing in terms of layout. Since all the source footage outside of clips exists only in SD, there's not really any reason to redo in HD.
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I already own the extended editions on DVD, I was only wondering if I should re-buy then as Blu Rays.
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Strictly for the film presentations, then. Although, you also get Costa Boates' feature length documentaries as extras that were only on the limited edition dual version DVDs (which had terrible compression). Skip the theatrical cuts since they have medium to high levels of DVNR like all of New Line's early Blu releases.
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I've seen these words used fairly frequently, but what is an interpositive and an internegative?
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Xenomrph posted:I've seen these words used fairly frequently, but what is an interpositive and an internegative? Basically, it's like a print except finer in detail and usually step printed (each frame exposed one at a time for better exposure). Here's a rundown on film sources in order of optimal use. I've also included examples on Blu-Ray. 1. Original camera negative - The film that actually went through the camera during shooting. This is usually the best place to start for a remaster or restoration. Examples: The Royal Tenenbaums, Aliens, The Seventh Seal, Lawrence of Arabia 2. Interpositive (color) or fine-grain positive (B&W) - A high resolution copy made from the camera negative. Often preferred for color films even when the camera negative is in good shape due to color timing being built-in. Also, a good option if the negative is fragile. Examples: Cabaret, Seven Samurai, 3a. B&W color separations (color only) - For color films with incomplete, missing, or destroyed camera negatives, this is often the next best place to go if existing interpositives don't exist in good or complete condition. Basically, B&W copies of each color record. Examples: The Searchers, sections of Easy Rider and My Fair Lady 3b. Internegative (color) or duplicate negative (B&W) - A negative made from an interpositive or fine-grain positive. There's also color reversal internegative, which is a reversal copy of the camera negative, which skips the interpositive step and reduces the generations by one. However, this stock was faulty in the 1970s, but later improved. Examples: Stagecoach 4. Print - For most films made before 1980, prints were made directly from the camera negative unless it was dye-transfer Technicolor. After the 1980s, most prints were made from an internegative or duplicate negative. Usually, the last resort if none of the above exist, but can still provide good quality, especially for B&W films. Examples: Rashomon, Safety Last! There's also combinations of all of the above. The 4K restoration of My Fair Lady utilized mostly the 65mm camera negative, but also had to use 65mm color separations to replace missing or damaged negative. The 4K restorations of North by Northwest and Spartacus used faded camera negatives and replaced the missing color information from the B&W color separation made before the fading. The 4K Play Time used mostly the camera negative, but filled in areas with an original interpositive. Of course, special effects, dissolves, and title sequences are often duplicates built-in on the camera negative (like a huge amount of The Lady from Shanghai), unless they were assembled as an A/B negative (alternating shots and dissolves created during printing) as in the case with E.T.
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There's some really great savings to be had over at amazon.co.uk with MoC releases - I know some are region-free while most are region-B locked. Is there a list or easy way to determine which are region-free and which aren't? I know amazon's listings aren't to be trusted. Also, any that one would recommend as essential purchases? Whether for the film itself, packaging, supplements, etc friendo55 fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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friendo55 posted:There's some really great savings to be had over at amazon.co.uk with MoC releases - I know some are region-free while most are region-B locked. Blu-ray.com and DVDBeaver reviews of MoC discs will almost definitely mention whether they are region free or region locked.
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friendo55 posted:There's some really great savings to be had over at amazon.co.uk with MoC releases - I know some are region-free while most are region-B locked. Unfortunately, MoC had to switch from generally making everything region free to having to lock the majority of their Blu releases. Here's the titles that currently have no US Blu-Ray (DVD editions exist unless noted): City Girl - Fox DVD only in OOP Murnau/Borzage box set (Region Free) Cleopatra (1934/DeMille) Computer Chess Day of the Outlaw Dr. Mabuse, the Gambler The Testament of Dr. Mabuse Fantastic Planet - Criterion is probably releasing this soon, though. Floating Weeds Fixed Bayonets! Forty Guns Hawks and Sparrows/Pigsty (Pasolini) Il Bidone City of Women (Fellini) La signore senza camelie Le Amiche Hands over the City - Criterion has US DVD Le pont du nord Les Miserables (1935/Bernard) - Criterion has US DVD Lifeboat Oedipus Rex (Pasolini) Onibaba Paper Moon Pickup on South Street Pigs and Battleships/Stolen Desire Profound Desires of the Gods Punishment Park (Region Free) Revenge - Will be on eventual Criterion World Cinema Vol. 2 Rocco and His Brothers - Milestone edition coming soon RoGoPaG Roma (Fellini) Ruggles of Red Gap Rumble Fish The Gospel According to Matthew The Gang's All Here The Insect Woman/Nishi Ginsa Station The Lost Weekend The Murderer Lives at 21 The Naked Island The Naked Prey The Passion of Joan of Arc - Does not include the "Voices of Light" score, though. The Tarnished Angels Soul Power (Region Free) Van Gogh White Dog Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter? Wooden Crosses - US DVD from Criterion Youth of the Beast Better encodes/extras than US editions: Man with a Movie Camera - Flicker Alley edition is overcompressed, MoC will split content across two discs instead of one The Quiet Man - Olive Films is overcompressed Shane - Includes "theatrical" 1.66:1 version as well as original 1.37:1 "as shot" version. US edition only has the 1.37:1 version Fear and Desire - Includes Kubrick's short films Day of the Fight and Flying Padre, while Kino edition only has The Seafarers The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari Nosferatu Faust (Murnau) Metropolis - Includes David Kalat commentary Diary of a Lost Girl Spies Woman in the Moon Die Niebelungen Tabu Draw: Sunrise - virtually identical, except MoC has a booklet and a far better cover (Region Free) Island of Lost Souls - Uses Criterion transfer The Birth of a Nation - Identical to Kino. Superior edition from BFI (Region B) and coming soon to Region A from Flicker Alley Intolerance - Identical to Cohen US release The Thief of Bagdad (Fairbanks) - Identical to Cohen US release Wings - Identical to Paramount US release Touch of Evil - US edition has better 4K remaster (this uses older transfers), but it has exclusive "open matte" versions. Also, there's a lot of Region B (and Free) BFI releases worth getting... Kenneth Anger's Magick Lantern Cycle - Region free and only in-print edition in the world. Uses same restorations as Fantoma DVDs. Chaplin's Mutual Comedies - Better encodes and music sync, plus extra commentaries and music scores on all films. Vastly superior to Region A Flicker Alley Battleship Potemkin - Better encode than Kino, plus extras The Phantom of the Opera - Better transfer than Kino or Image editions, plus extras. Only edition with true HD presentation of original 1925 version (SD upscales on US editions). The Birth of a Nation - Better transfer, mostly from original 1921 print with excerpts from surviving camera negative fragments. Hours of more extras, plus a better score. List of Region free and region locked BFI releases here: http://www.criterionforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=9483 Egbert Souse fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Feb 11, 2016 |
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God, I want to be able to dig through that MoC library so bad. Anybody want to buy me an Oppo?
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Thank you for that fantastic post.
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Kull the Conqueror posted:God, I want to be able to dig through that MoC library so bad. Anybody want to buy me an Oppo? I think getting a MR player in the US is easy enough these days, yeah? Or just import a Euro player. They pretty much all use those figure-of-8 inputs and should be fine on 110v.
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James Bond Collection (23 films, Dr. No through Skyfall) - $79.96
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loving Amazon sent me the lovely 2008 blu ray of Gangs of New York instead of the remasted '10 verson 
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Y Kant Ozma Diet posted:loving Amazon sent me the lovely 2008 blu ray of Gangs of New York instead of the remasted '10 verson You want this (though weirdly it says "exclusively for Prime members," how the gently caress does that work?)
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Just to be clear, this is the remastered 2010 version? Blu-ray.com has a review of this one stating it's the remastered 2010 verson  http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Gangs-of-New-York-Blu-ray/9111/#Review Are they the same with different covers? I'm so confused. For the record, I was sent the one you linked.
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Y Kant Ozma Diet posted:Just to be clear, this is the remastered 2010 version? They ain't gonna use the old transfer with a UV code. Come on bro.
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Y Kant Ozma Diet posted:Just to be clear, this is the remastered 2010 version? They're both the remastered one. Studios frequently re-release discs with new covers or promotions, and this is no different. Looking at Blu-ray.com, there have been 4 "releases," but only two actual unique discs. The first release in 2008 sucked, and the re-releases in 2010, 2011, and 2014 all used the same "remastered" disc.
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Egbert Souse posted:Unfortunately, MoC had to switch from generally making everything region free to having to lock the majority of their Blu releases. Thanks a ton for all that info! Very much appreciated. I'll make sure to bookmark this page.
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Egbert Souse posted:Basically, it's like a print except finer in detail and usually step printed (each frame exposed one at a time for better exposure). I just wanted to thank you for explaining all of this, I find it really interesting. 
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It's also worth pointing out a lot of region free major studio releases exist either with improved editions or far lower pricing. Here's some other region free highlights from Amazon UK... The Hobbit: Extended Edition (3-D) - $65 USD (US edition is $90) The Complete Indiana Jones - $18.70 USD The Complete Harry Potter - $36.11 USD (has UK "Philosopher's Stone" version) Back to the Future Trilogy: $14.45 USD Alfred Hitchcock Masterpiece Collection: $63.69 USD (US edition is $164.69) - Does not include North by Northwest, but has all 14 of his Universal-owned films Universal Monsters Collection - $28.90 USD (US edition is $75.63) - Exact same discs, but cheaper packaging. The Three Musketeers/The Four Musketeers (1974, Richard Lester) - Unavailable in US, only $21.66 USD Bambi - $24.52 USD, OOP in US Peter Pan (Disney) - $24.48 USD, OOP in US Ben-Hur - $13.67 USD - Includes supplement disc with 1925 silent version only available in OOP US gift set.
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Egbert Souse posted:The Complete Harry Potter - $36.11 USD (has UK "Philosopher's Stone" version) Or, as it's called around here, "the correctly named version". 
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EL BROMANCE posted:I think getting a MR player in the US is easy enough these days, yeah? Or just import a Euro player. They pretty much all use those figure-of-8 inputs and should be fine on 110v. Is it that easy? There are plenty of region B locked discs I want on that list but Pick-Up on South Street would be enough of a reason to import a euro BR player I wanted to say thanks to Egbert also, your posts are terrific e; Besides being refurbished, why is this so cheap? I thought region free players were a few hundred? Dr.Caligari fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Feb 12, 2016 |
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Hopefully no one bought the Japanese Blu of The Magnificent Ambersons... http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film5/blu-ray_reviews_70/the_magnificent_ambersons_blu-ray.htm
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Dr.Caligari posted:Is it that easy? There are plenty of region B locked discs I want on that list but Pick-Up on South Street would be enough of a reason to import a euro BR player I just looked at my Panasonic player and annoyingly the transformer is only rated for 220-240v which is surprising. Guess I'm never taking it overseas then! But if a player is rated fine for 110-240 (like, it should be common enough as it's cheaper to build something that'll work worldwide) then I can't see why there'd be an issue. The only possible problem is if your TV doesn't accept a 50hz signal, you might get some issues with some discs crashing. You'll have that regardless though, and it's often only extras or menus that pull that poo poo. As for that Sony player, my aforementioned Panny is a $200 one from 5 years ago with hacked firmware that opens up multiregion, so can't see why that one wouldn't be legit. It's worth double checking players listed as MR as some can do DVD regions but not BD.
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Egbert Souse posted:It's also worth pointing out a lot of region free major studio releases exist either with improved editions or far lower pricing. Just wanted to echo that I've purchased both of these UK editions (the Hitchcock one I actually picked up the pretty limited edition set) and they're fantastic. Also, the region-free Twilight Zone seasons which are identical to the US versions from what I've been told - and much cheaper.
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Has anyone else dived into 4K blu-ray yet? After getting a solid deal on a 65" Sony after Thanksgiving last year (xbr65x850c for the curious), I was debating if I'd buy into 4k blu-ray or just rely on upconverted regular blu-rays. I ended up using the reward certificates I got from my TV purchase to knock the price on the Samsung player down quite a bit, and figured "why not". At least I'd finally have a standalone player, at the very worst (been using my ps3/4 exclusively, and the PS4's lack of a good remote was really bugging me), plus it was cheaper than what I paid for that Toshiba HD-DVD player back in the day. Best Buy got my my player last week, and I picked up Kingsman on Sunday. Hooked it up, pressed play on the nice but dinky remote, and saw... okay results. It was a bit sharper and colorful, but nothing mindblowing. It wasn't until the next day when I was looking over the TV documentation after reading some AV forums that I found out I had to enable the HDMI port for Enhanced content and HDR. So I did that, tried it again, and HOLY HELL this time it was a world of difference. Not like going from being near-blind to having glasses, like DVD to Blu-ray was, but definitely like getting a 10 year old pair of glasses updated. The sharpness and resolution is great, but that HDR really makes a difference, especially in darker or night scenes against blacks. I just went back to Best Buy and grabbed The Martian, but I won't be able to open it up til this weekend. The apps are okay, I'm not paying extra for Netflix in 4k so I can't test it out but the Amazon stuff in 4k looked decent enough. I think my TV's built in Amazon app looks a bit better, though. The player boots blu-rays almost instantly, and 4K blu-rays take between 5-10 seconds to go from tray close to logos. Out of the gate, this is a way better debut than regular Blu-ray had. In case anyone is wondering, Best Buy seems to have the exclusives on the first wave of Fox titles until 3/1, when Amazon and everyone else on the planet will start shipping. If you haven't gotten a player, put in a preorder anywhere you can now because it seems to be sold out everywhere. Either there's a big hardware shortage or they didn't anticipate a decent number of people wanted to invest in yet another physical media format. Supposedly the $399 price is a temporary early adopter promotion, as well, and it's supposed to go up to $499 by the summer. I've only seen that mentioned on various forums, so I have no idea if it's true or not, but it's been repeated enough by pro accounts that it could be.
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Finally picked up the Alien Anthology set since it seems to be going out of print in favor of a regular case version without the extras discs. Just from skimming over it, this might be one of the best productions ever on Blu-Ray. They even included complete laserdisc supplements as an extra. I haven't viewed any of Alien3 or Resurrection yet (nor will I likely ever for the latter), but Alien and Aliens look amazing.
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Red posted:This thread failed me by not telling me Barton Fink was available on region-free UK blu-ray. If you haven't already bought it, the Coen Brothers collection is $20 from Amazon UK and comes with region-free Fink, Lebowski, A Serious Man, Burn After Reading, Hudsucker Proxy and Intolerable Cruelty. The packaging kind of sucks but it's a great deal.
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