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A Buttery Pastry posted:The Greenland thing is because it's part of Scandinavia now, I think. As for this, your people have obviously been told about the great Spanish colonies on another continent, but they're not exactly sure what's in between. 
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Bort Bortles posted:Interesting. I like it
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Feb 10, 2016 18:04
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I think the issue is that exploration spreads faster when a whole "region" is discovered and actors very rarely discover whole ocean "regions". Sea tiles should probably spread by different rules - possibly a certain radius out from discovered regions or something? If ocean "regions" are even a thing. I am not sure how that would work in the raws.
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Bort Bortles posted:Alright so Spread of Discoveries is getting wackier: God, Portugal just cannot catch a break, this patch...
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skipThings posted:Could rebels please not enforce their demands if they have no forces left ? That would be sweet, pretenders just reversed my Inca reforms, course I couldn't take back the last fort they took, fast enough.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Though they may be slightly unsure what Spain is.  PleasingFungus posted:God, Portugal just cannot catch a break, this patch...  They are in a PU under Spain  zedprime posted:Sounds like there were pretender forces left, in the fort garrison. 
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Feb 10, 2016 20:17
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Is there a bug with the "attitude towards enemies" modifier? I can't get my ally to declare war on their rival because they like them too much to the tune of a -60 modifier.
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Does anyone have advice for this Papal States game? I keep getting boxed in by Spain/France/Austria, I finally have a run where Spain forming wasn't an issue. Not an ironman game or anything. I can only expand in Genoa, Aragonese Italy, or Austria itself. I'm allied to France, Austria, and Hungary. Austria is allied to Aragon, and France is allied to Genoa. So it seems I need to use either France or Austria to help take out the other. They're both willing to join whichever war I decide to start. So which should I choose? France has 87 regiments, Austria 71, and I can muster up 58. Genoa and Aragon are basically nonentities in the war. I'm pretty sure I can defeat whichever I choose to attack. (I have Hungary to help out too if I DOW France). Do I use Austria to take provinces off Genoa, and try to beat France badly enough I can get them to release some development? France has roughly 800 development right now, me and Austria are at 450~. Attacking Austria means I can start working towards taking their provinces I need to form the Kingdom of God. But if I do THAT, I'm worried the continent will lose Austria as a potential check on French expansion. Or is this not something I should worry about? I just get nervous seeing such a large France. Our trust is relatively high, 65 or so, so I'm not too afraid they'll suddenly start desiring Avignon, but still. Any tips? Or alternative DOWs I'm not seeing? Neither Genoa or Aragon have other allies I could DOW on to pull them into a war. I forged a claim on Ragusa, but they're allied to Austria and still guaranteed by Ottos, so it's a similar situation. Switzerland I don't feel like bothering with. I get impatient sitting around for so long with full manpower, coffers, and plenty of spare admin pts to core with.
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You need to treat that stage 3 Franceblob or it's going to be terminal. I kind of wonder if the AI bonus reductions to AE might need to be tweaked. Seeing the AI play aggressively and blob like mad is good, but France, Muscovy, etc just grow without any real check on them. It's really tough to break up blobs right now, due partly to Revanchism and also due to the many ways to reduce revolt risk. Looking at the game date, the Reformation is probably going full swing. If they have a significant number of off-religion provinces you may be able to trigger the French Wars of Religion disaster. Declare on Genoa, bring in all your allies. Get Great Britain if you can, anyone at all to help. Crush France and just keep on fighting them until they are out of manpower and running on mercenaries. Run them up to 20 War Exhaustion, then white peace. Why? War Exhaustion is reduced by the warscore cost of your peace, so white peacing with 20 WE will stick them with all of it. Maybe take reparations but you don't want to demand release of territory. Then take whatever you want from Genoa.
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you mentioning the Reformation brings up another question: I went with a couple of the Papal decisions that reduce reform desire + prevent other nations from selling indulgences, etc. The reformation didn't start until maybe 30 years ago or so. But it occurs to me now: is that what I want to do? Less Catholic nations means I have a higher chance of holding the Papacy, correct? Is there any benefit to delaying the Reformation? I just did it for shits & giggles. and thank you for the advice: gonna go ahead and try to smash up France. so you think it's more crippling to leave them with their territory but hampered by lots of war exhaustion?
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shallowj posted:you mentioning the Reformation brings up another question: I went with a couple of the Papal decisions that reduce reform desire + prevent other nations from selling indulgences, etc. The reformation didn't start until maybe 30 years ago or so. But it occurs to me now: is that what I want to do? Less Catholic nations means I have a higher chance of holding the Papacy, correct? Is there any benefit to delaying the Reformation? I just did it for shits & giggles. It's probably not really worth it to delay or speed up the Reformation either way. It's gonna happen. You get a little bit of tax income and a Devotion hit, so you can take the decision if you want the small amount of cash. Won't matter if the Reformation starts a few decades earlier/later. Yeah, exactly, you want to try and saddle them with debt, no manpower, and lots of War Exhaustion so they'll hopefully start imploding. If a significant chunk of their provinces are non-Catholic you may trigger their disaster and that'll definitely wreck them. If you take provinces, they'll get Revanchism. Unless a bunch of other nations dogpile into France after you beat them, they'll just bounce back in a decade only having lost a handful of provinces. Run them up to 20 WE and out of manpower, then white peace or take reparations. This works really well with Westernizing nations, too. Ottomans, Ming, or Muscovy in the process of Westernizing? Jump on them and slap them with 20 WE, on top of the +5 RR from Westernization they will explode. Edit: you're also probably very rich as the Papal States, so after you white peace them use some of your cash to support rebels.
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Feb 11, 2016 00:05
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Five days before I am about to declare a fast and easy war I get a ten year regency, lovely.
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Lord Tywin posted:Five days before I am about to declare a fast and easy war I get a ten year regency, lovely. yeah, that happened twice in my Inca run and hosed me over completely It also destroyed an "African Power" run before Art of War was released, getting a little tired of this game just because of this specific "feature"
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French morale is no joke. 5.1 morale with a technology base of 3. Surprised we beat them as easily as we did, to be honest. Not sure if I see them imploding, though. They reduced war exhaustion from 20 down to 12 pretty promptly, and the provinces I can see have all had their rebellions crushed. Their manpower is bouncing back pretty fast too. Surprised to see they're still pals with me and willing to re-ally. Should I maybe do this? Austria actually broke our alliance after the war, which I was surprised to see. I have 70 trust with them but they started desiring Verona. I'm considering joining back up with France to smash Austria in a decade or so.
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skipThings posted:yeah, that happened twice in my Inca run and hosed me over completely
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shallowj posted:French morale is no joke. 5.1 morale with a technology base of 3. Surprised we beat them as easily as we did, to be honest. Not sure if I see them imploding, though. They reduced war exhaustion from 20 down to 12 pretty promptly, and the provinces I can see have all had their rebellions crushed. Their manpower is bouncing back pretty fast too. Well, I wouldn't expect them to straight explode unless you also triggered the Wars of Religion disaster or they had some other compounding factor. For better or worse, the AI blobs really aggressively right now and it's really hard to break up a blob.
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Feb 11, 2016 00:50
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Well, my Osmanli dynasty died out, but going Orthodox let me get a suitable replacement~
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A Frenchman does seem appropriate.
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"Does not have regencies" is the undisputed #1 most importantest attribute in picking a government form. That's probably a good indication it needs changed.
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Pellisworth posted:"Does not have regencies" is the undisputed #1 most importantest attribute in picking a government form. Yeah, it can sabotage things pretty hard. I think there should be an option to put someone else on the throne and tank legitimacy, maybe spawn some rebels.
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Feb 11, 2016 01:32
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Along the same lines, defeating pretender rebels should give you legitimacy.
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Pellisworth posted:"Does not have regencies" is the undisputed #1 most importantest attribute in picking a government form. 
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Tsyni posted:Yeah, it can sabotage things pretty hard. I think there should be an option to put someone else on the throne and tank legitimacy, maybe spawn some rebels. I think an easy interim fix (maybe not the best solution) would be to remove "cannot declare wars" from regencies, but add a regency-related disaster. Based on realm stability (legitimacy, unrest, stability, etc) a regency may start building a disaster that has pretender revolts or the regent attempting to assume power. You could even just add it as a factor for the Civil War disaster, being in a regency makes Civil War tick. Edit: right now, Civil War will specifically only trigger if you are NOT in regency. Make it so regency is a risk factor for Civil War, let regencies declare wars.
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Pellisworth posted:"Does not have regencies" is the undisputed #1 most importantest attribute in picking a government form.
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Pellisworth posted:I think an easy interim fix (maybe not the best solution) would be to remove "cannot declare wars" from regencies, but add a regency-related disaster. Based on realm stability (legitimacy, unrest, stability, etc) a regency may start building a disaster that has pretender revolts or the regent attempting to assume power. You could even just add it as a factor for the Civil War disaster, being in a regency makes Civil War tick. I'd think you'd want to tie it to Internal Conflict, if only because that disaster is actually threatening, but yeah.
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RE: Regencies It's not even historical, plenty of regencies declared war.
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PittTheElder posted:I'd think you'd want to tie it to Internal Conflict, if only because that disaster is actually threatening, but yeah. Fair enough. Having Regencies be a risk factor for a fairly bad disaster would work fine imo. Maybe you could tweak the claim throne mechanic so other nations have a chance to declare a war for PU on you if you have a low-legitimacy heir in regency and royal marriage. I'm fine with there being a fairly significant penalty for regencies, whatever. Not being able to declare war is really frustrating and boring, plus ahistorical as mentioned.
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Yeah the regencies thing feels like one of the few leftover EU3 mechanics that they still haven't gotten around to fixing, probably (hopefully) because there's so much that needs fixed with monarchy governments that it needs a full dlc. Fingers crossed it's part of the next one.
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 I, uh, am earning a bunch of achievements this run. Already got Respected and one or two others....never expected to get Magellan's voyage too. The showing text is broken and I wish it was at least a little customized for the nation who completed it. France rivaled me  I'm halfway done westernizing; I am on track to complete it right before the turn of the century. I have a toehold in Indonesia but Pasai just allied the Ottomans  I think I am going to dive into India once Westernization completes. I have so much money I am not sure what to do with it, I think I need to build more armies...(I only have one of ~25 infantry, 6 Cav, and 10 artillery) edit: Is it bad that I want to take Quality as my first military idea, because I could get 7.5% Discipline and 10% Morale from policies? I am desperate for military bonuses... AAAAA! Real Muenster fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Feb 11, 2016 |
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If you're rolling in cash, take Quantity, build troops, and roll face. Especially because you've almost certainly picked Religious, and Rel+Trade+Quant gives you access to some insane policies.
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Bort Bortles posted:
if you're flush with cash (from gold mines, I'd assume), replace the infantry in your armies with mercs. And, assuming that you're earning most of your cash from gold, you've probably got huge inflation. Investing in production buildings will boost your income and reduce inflation gain.
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So I found a thing that bothers me about forts. What's the best province for a fort? Something flat, preferably without rivers - you don't want to have combat penalties when attacking a siege stack. Where did people historically build forts? Usually on high ground overlooking/checking the surrounding lands. Maybe this should be the way for the game too: - Forts on high ground (mountain provinces etc) should have improved fort defense - The owner of the fort gets a bonus when attacking an hostile army that's sieging the fort, this should be bound to the garrison size To counter this there should probably a lowered fort defense across the board or more ways to get siege ability.
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mountains do give siege defense, i agree that its insanely dumb that a fort on a mountain is suicide for the defender to try to clear the siege stack from, since the idea of a fort is to control the powerful defensive position so the enemy should not be in it. probably remove or reduce terrain modifiers for the owner of a fort in all situations would be the thing to do
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Forts in mountains do get increased fort defence.Bort Bortles posted:edit: Is it bad that I want to take Quality as my first military idea, because I could get 7.5% Discipline and 10% Morale from policies? I am desperate for military bonuses... Yes, it is bad. Pick Quantity, you are running a skeleton army right now. Put more artillery in your armies too.
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Johan has posted this week's dev diary which features a complete rework of espionage. Next week: a "look at Africa".
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Quality is really only useful if you also have Innovative, due to the 20% infantry bonus you get through policy imho. But yeah you should totes swap your infantry with merchs with that amount of cash.
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The espionage changes sound...okay? I've never done anything in espionage other than fabricating CBs for war, but making it so it no longer costs the full-time use of a diplomat is a good improvement. Curious to see what the 2 new spy actions are.
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Wonder how they'll calculate the costs, that could shaft poor nations. Definitely seems like an improvement over the current system though.
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Alikchi posted:Johan has posted this week's dev diary which features a complete rework of espionage. edit: Apparently hurting Legitimacy is already in Espionage ideas and I misread the DD thinking that these options would be available to everyone at all times. I'm an idiot. AAAAA! Real Muenster fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Feb 11, 2016 |
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