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Bovril Delight posted:Yeah I've found 330hp just not enough anymore. I think 500hp would be enough. 100% truth. My thought process today: "Hmm... an e90 M3 would be nice, but it really needs a supercharger."
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i guess the new armada has finally filled its diaper http://m.caranddriver.com/news/2017-nissan-armada-photos-and-info-news E: ok, it sort of looked like that before but it looks a bit more bulbous this time around. a primate fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Feb 11, 2016 |
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Feb 11, 2016 05:42
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Wheeee posted:Actual power is irrelevant, what matters is market position of the vehicle in question. That's ridiculous. Why would you pay more (or even the same amount) for something that's slower and less efficient?
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PT6A posted:That's ridiculous. Why would you pay more (or even the same amount) for something that's slower and less efficient? Because you mistakenly think that there is a replacement for displacement?
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ShittyPostmakerPro posted:My next purchase (other than many more Soarers) is looking like a GS450h, which is like a big Prius, so thanks for the advice I'd have probably had one of them by now if I actually fit comfortably - for a fairly large car they're incredibly cramped inside.
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The Prius is one of the best and coolest cars on the market today. If you went back in time to the 1980's and showed people most 2016 cars they'd be all "What is this lame poo poo" but if you showed them a 2016 Prius they'd be all "poo poo yea that's a future car right there".
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kimbo305 posted:What matters is how much tire you have. Unrelated to your point, I know. This was actually the premise of one of my favourite Harris videos... Big engined car on space savers, how much fun is it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPh90yNX-mY
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mystique is that your car gets a lot more scary when all you do is up the power.
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leica posted:It's because you fools are building a tolerance to HP. The first car you get with 300 HP seems incredible until you get used to it and "need" more, it just doesn't massage your prostate like it used to does it Even just being used to driving my 160hp sedan, going to a 75hp hatchback felt glacially slow at first. I know it's not huge numbers, but it's still a 50% reduction in power. But now after a couple of weeks, it feels OK. Still slow, but certainly able to keep up with traffic just fine. However, I can't wait to get back into my own car and have some actual torque again.
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a primate posted:i guess the new armada has finally filled its diaper I can't decide if I like this or hate it. I will say after driving past about 20 of those QX80's a day the Nissan front end looks better than the Infiniti catfish grille
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Feb 11, 2016 13:23
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Wheeee posted:The Prius is one of the best and coolest cars on the market today. Future car with future prices for headlight replacement after someone releases a shopping cart anywhere within 180º of the front of your car
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Feb 11, 2016 13:48
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Wheeee posted:The Prius is one of the best and coolest cars on the market today. Pretty sure flying deloreans are the 80s future car bubba
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Wheeee posted:The Prius is one of the best and coolest cars on the market today. The new Prius is worse than the old prius because they shrank the cargo area for questionable styling reasons
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Feb 11, 2016 14:21
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I see a lot of those priuses in the right hand lane.
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Feb 11, 2016 14:23
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 For when you really, really want to make sure other people know what you are driving
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Feb 11, 2016 14:28
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It reminds me of a pair of trainers I have that has no less than 7 logos per shoe.
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People love that poo poo yo! Think about what one of these will be worth in 60 years. In the bleak future of electric penalty boxes. Although Tesla makes the future seem decidedly un-bleak. Like so: 
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It's really not out of character for a Dodge at all, I don't think any other manufacturer could pull that off
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RAWR BIG TOUGH OFF-ROADER teeny tiny wheels
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euphronius posted:I see a lot of those priuses in the right hand lane. Funnily enough, I see a lot of them in the left lane doing 130 kph which I assume negates the fuel saving a bit.
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a primate posted:Funnily enough, I see a lot of them in the left lane doing 130 kph which I assume negates the fuel saving a bit. A Prius doing everything right on the freeway will get 50mpg (4.7l/100km) A Prius driving like a freaking racecar on the freeway will get 39mpg (6l/100km) if you try REALLY hard. It's still better than 95% of other cars on the road. Look at the cost difference. Fuel is $1.86 a gallon, and I live in one of the highest fuel tax states in the US. (over in NJ, it's $1.64 a gallon) if I drive 100 miles west on the PA turnpike - it'll cost me $3.72 if I'm driving nice, or $4.76 if I have a lead foot. So it costs like a dollar more to drive like a psycho. If I drive 100 miles northeast on the NJ turnpike - $3.28 for nice and $4.21 for psycho driving. $0.93 speed tax there. But then I have to pay the tolls! They both cost more than the fuel does. PA turnpike will be about $9.59 NJ turnpike would be something like $7.25
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20-25% reduction in fuel economy is still pretty substantial but I see your point
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A prius will never be as cool as that dodge
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a primate posted:130 kph  Moon suits from Asia I assume.
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a primate posted:20-25% reduction in fuel economy is still pretty substantial but I see your point
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a primate posted:i guess the new armada has finally filled its diaper This is the vehicle, when I see it around, that gets the biggest "WHY????" reaction out of me. From the driving of the people I've encountered in them, they seem to be harder to maneuver than an actual dump truck, they have none of the utility (real or imagined) of like a bigass dually crew cab truck, and they don't fit any more people than a minivan that costs half as much, uses half as much gas, and is cheaper to insure. I watched a guy scootch back and forth in a parking lot for 30 minutes one day trying to fit one of these things into a parking space. Even the name of the thing screams "this is pointless and huge".
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:This is the vehicle, when I see it around, that gets the biggest "WHY????" reaction out of me. From the driving of the people I've encountered in them, they seem to be harder to maneuver than an actual dump truck, they have none of the utility (real or imagined) of like a bigass dually crew cab truck, and they don't fit any more people than a minivan that costs half as much, uses half as much gas, and is cheaper to insure. I watched a guy scootch back and forth in a parking lot for 30 minutes one day trying to fit one of these things into a parking space. Even the name of the thing screams "this is pointless and huge". but the driving position is higher and i can see the road better, also it's bigger and therefore safer don't u know
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Sorry about your dick bro. I'm still amazed that Dodge employs the JC Whitney catalog on some of their trucks from the factory. It's like a step away from being one of those cars in the terrible car thread covered in fake Buick portholes. The Raptor is the only one of these types of trucks to get it right from the factory. I think the new F150 is hideous but the Raptor treatment works really well on it.
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blugu64 posted:A prius will never be as cool as that dodge I agree. So I put this on my Prius. 
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a primate posted:Funnily enough, I see a lot of them in the left lane doing 130 kph which I assume negates the fuel saving a bit. I've got my fingers crossed that the reviewers aren't huffing paint and the new Prius is actually reasonably fun to drive, a car that got ~40mpg while having the poo poo beat out of it sounds amazing and like the Civics / 323s / Fiestas of old, but better.
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My car has ~110HP and my motorcycle has ~110HP. I could go (and likely have gone...) felony speeds with either, so I don't really have much of a draw to more power.
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So the MY2017 1LE Camaro's got announced. What does electronically actuated limited-slip differential mean? What is the expectation for pricing on the 1LE?
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tijag posted:So the MY2017 1LE Camaro's got announced. What does electronically actuated limited-slip differential mean? What is the expectation for pricing on the 1LE? It uses a hydaulic pump and clutches to grab and hold the differential half shafts as needed, based on sensor input and ECU determination of torque needs. http://www.stingrayforums.com/forum/stingray-corvette-discussions/1504-corvette-z-51-e-diff-thread.html#post11538 The diff part starts at ~27:30.
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tijag posted:So the MY2017 1LE Camaro's got announced. What does electronically actuated limited-slip differential mean? What is the expectation for pricing on the 1LE? Mechanical LSD with electronically controlled lockup (I think you're talking about the SS1LE; the V6 version has a mechanical diff, so I would be shocked if they cheaped out for the V8), I've heard, and $3500ish, respectively. EDIT: I am trying to find confirmation that the V8 has a mechanical LSD w/ electronic control, but haven't. It may not be. Electric Pigeon fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Feb 11, 2016 |
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a primate posted:20-25% reduction in fuel economy is still pretty substantial but I see your point I see a 20% difference on my vehicles in a similar situation. Cruising at 65MPH taking it easy vs 80MPH driving a bit aggressively makes a difference in most vehicles.
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kimbo305 posted:It uses a hydaulic pump and clutches to grab and hold the differential half shafts as needed, based on sensor input and ECU determination of torque needs. Wow, that eLSD sounds very impressive. Supposedly it's the same one in the Corvette transaxle, so I assumed it was good, but just didn't understand what it was actually doing. Thank you for the link, I will watch the video soon. I did try googling that question but I got a lot of links about using the brakes on FWD cars which didn't sound like what would be happening on the Camaro. Electric Pigeon posted:Mechanical LSD with electronically controlled lockup (I think you're talking about the SS1LE; the V6 version has a mechanical diff, so I would be shocked if they cheped out for the V8), I've heard, and $3500ish, respectively. So, $3500 over the base SS price? That seems unreal, since this is including a better LSD, better brakes, forged wheels, bigger rubber, and the magentic dampers, plus a bunch of assorted suspension upgrades and recaros as standard on the V8 version of the 1LE. I'm thinking this will be more like a $7k upgrade to the base SS pricing. But I hope you're right. 
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Have we talked about this yet? http://jalopnik.com/2017-volvo-v90-this-is-it-1758505591 This is probably the first non-sporty new car I've ever been excited about.
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3500 is for v6 1le, ss price not announced yet I think. The ss 1le, and even the v6 1le, are badass affordable cars on paper... Just a shame that I sat in one and the visibility is STILL total loving garbage. Seriously can they put those packages in the ats coupe somehow?
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skipdogg posted:I see a 20% difference on my vehicles in a similar situation. Cruising at 65MPH taking it easy vs 80MPH driving a bit aggressively makes a difference in most vehicles. Yeah, but 20% being 40 instead of 50 means $50 instead of $40 per 1,000 miles at $2/gallon 20% being 16mpg instead of 20mpg means $125 vs $100 per 100,000 miles at $2/gallon. MPG isn't a linear scale.
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Dollar gains decrease as fuel economy goes up, which is why it's such a big deal for heavy trucks to gain 0.5mpg (also they drive hundreds of thousands of miles per year). Doesn't stop the auto companies from 1mpg dickwaving though.
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Which is why most of the civilized world uses L/100km. Even if we did it in Imperial units, Gallons per 100 miles (or whatever) is a much better and more useful metric. The same nominal "5mpg" difference between 10mpg and 15mpg is HUGE, but the difference between 45mpg and 50mpg is miniscule. To the layman "5mpg" seems like it should be a constant measure, but it's not at all. The marginal value of additional "mpg" as you go gets vanishingly small. The difference becomes way more apparent when you rephrase those measurements into G/100mi: 10mpg = 10G/100mi 15mpg = 6.67G/100mi Net difference over 100 miles: 3.33 gallons, or at $2/gallon = $6.66, $4/gallon = $13.32 45mpg = 2.22G/100mi 50mpg = 2G/100mi Net difference over 100 miles: 0.2 gallons, or at $2/gallon = $0.40, $4/gallon = $0.80 Guinness fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Feb 11, 2016 |
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