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Carbon dioxide posted:Are there laws saying an elector should be a citizen of their state? Or even an American at all? All I know is there's no rule that says a dog can't play basketball.
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 08:01 |
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Maybe shut the gently caress up and post graphs
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 10:48 |
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C.P.A.N. posted:
GOONS should really be the x-axis here
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 14:35 |
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Alien Arcana posted:GOONS should really be the x-axis here Or do the lovely derails bring the goons to the thread?
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 14:41 |
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Powered Descent posted:Having the sheriff be elected directly is the system that gave us Joe Arpaio. If you don't know who that is, don't google him until you're ready to get really angry and really sad, simultaneously. But he's tough on crime and gives prisoners bologna sandwiches for food and tents for shelter! Wait, you mean treating people like animals causes them to behave even worse?!
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Fried Watermelon posted:But he's tough on crime and gives prisoners bologna sandwiches for food and tents for shelter! At least we save money by treating them so poorly
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 16:24 |
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AlphaKretin posted:Oh, and AFAIK because Electors are by state with a special exception for DC, citizens of Guam, Puerto Rico etc. can't vote. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CesHr99ezWE e: they are citizens, derp
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 17:03 |
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Join Guam and the North Marianas Islands into one Pacific Islands Territory, give both it and Puerto Rico an ultimatum to join as states by 2024 or they will automatically be given independence, problem solved.
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 17:28 |
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Didn't Puerto Rico have a successful referendum to petition Congress to be granted statehood a couple years ago but congress hasn't done anything about it?
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Alien Arcana posted:GOONS should really be the x-axis here
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 17:46 |
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Oh god I'm sorry I helped bring the derail to this page. I'm mostly posting to unstick kalstrams' post
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 17:52 |
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Pakled posted:Didn't Puerto Rico have a successful referendum to petition Congress to be granted statehood a couple years ago but congress hasn't done anything about it? Sort of. The referendum question had a yes or no question: "Should Puerto Rico continue its current territorial status?" If you voted yes there were three options to chose from, independence(5.5%), statehood(61%), or free association with the US(33.3%). So even though 54% of the voters voted "Yes," only 33% of the total voting population who both voted 'yes' AND for 'statehood' actually voted for statehood. Tons of people also cast blank ballots too, so that confounded the issue even further. Some not-so-good charts: Jaramin has a new favorite as of 17:58 on Feb 11, 2016 |
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AlphaKretin posted:Oh god I'm sorry I helped bring the derail to this page.
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 17:56 |
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Jaramin posted:Sort of. The referendum question had a yes or no question: "Should Puerto Rico continue its current territorial status?" If you voted yes there were three options to chose from, independence(5.5%), statehood(61%), or free association with the US(33.3%). So even though 54% of the voters voted "Yes," only 33% of the total voting population who both voted 'yes' AND for 'statehood' actually voted for statehood. Tons of people also cast blank ballots too, so that confounded the issue even further. You're slightly off, that 33% represents all voters, you voted on both regardless. But still, there's a lot to be said for the idea that the first question skews the second. Basically as long as Republicans control Congress, they'll hold off on it because Puerto Rico would likely be a Democratic stronghold.
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 18:09 |
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Neither party really wants them to gain statehood honestly. I understand why, but don't think it's in the best interest of the country to keep unrepresented colonies and let them lag behind the rest of the population forever.
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 18:22 |
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foobardog posted:You're slightly off, that 33% represents all voters, you voted on both regardless. Isn't Puerto Rico super conservative, Republicans were certainly all about letting them become a State for a bit.
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 18:24 |
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Aramoro posted:Isn't Puerto Rico super conservative, Republicans were certainly all about letting them become a State for a bit. They're very religious, which would have them lean towards the republicans of 15 years ago. Current republicans lean on a lot of anti-immigration anti-welfare rhetoric which pushes Puerto Rico back over to the left.
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 20:08 |
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Judge Schnoopy posted:They're very religious, which would have them lean towards the republicans of 15 years ago. Current republicans lean on a lot of anti-immigration anti-welfare rhetoric which pushes Puerto Rico back over to the left. Why on earth would Puerto Ricans care about immigration? A lot of Mexican-Americans don't care about immigration now that they're citizens, Puerto Ricans are already citizens.
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 20:16 |
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trapped mouse posted:Why on earth would Puerto Ricans care about immigration? A lot of Mexican-Americans don't care about immigration now that they're citizens, Puerto Ricans are already citizens. Trump's campaign platform is pretty much 'I hate brown people' so...
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 20:26 |
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A shining quote for the advertising thread to show the effectiveness of saturation
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 20:28 |
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Sinking Ship posted:Trump's campaign platform is pretty much 'I hate brown people' so... Well yeah, but Puerto Ricans have no reason to care at all about immigration. They also said "current republicans", not Trump. And not all Puerto Ricans are brown. Of course, the same could be said of Mexicans and Muslims.
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 21:04 |
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Carbon dioxide posted:Are there laws saying an elector should be a citizen of their state? Or even an American at all? Not federally. The only federal requirements are that they can't be elected or appointed to a federal office, and they have to be able to meet in the state they're representing. The first rule is in Article II, Clause 2 of the Constitution, and the second is in both Article II, Clause 3 and the Twelfth Amendment. Since the Twelfth Amendment was written in 1803, this did restrict electors to be in or very close to the state at the time of elections, since they wouldn't be able to meet in time to cast the ballot otherwise. It does preclude criminals in other states and aliens who can't get a visa, but otherwise, states can pick whoever they want.
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 21:13 |
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Jesus christ shut the gently caress up about US elections already.
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 22:15 |
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mobby_6kl posted:Jesus christ shut the gently caress up about US elections already. gently caress we are pretty far behind. We should already be mining mars, and in three years have unlimited material resources from the moon! (again I'm gonna say this chart is loving rad and not awful/funny)
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 22:19 |
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Welp, now I need to head out somewhere to have that printed as a poster
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 22:23 |
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# ? Feb 12, 2016 02:17 |
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"Mohammedans"?
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# ? Feb 12, 2016 02:20 |
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hooah posted:"Mohammedans"?
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# ? Feb 12, 2016 02:52 |
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Flagrant Abuse posted:1.6 billion was around-ish the turn of the 20th century, when Mohammed(i)an was still a commonly used term for Muslims. Mohammed is considered by Muslims a prophet of God, etymologically it makes as much sense as 'Christian.'
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# ? Feb 12, 2016 02:54 |
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Yeah, it makes sense, I'd just never run across it before so I didn't know how common it is/was.
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# ? Feb 12, 2016 02:58 |
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It was super common in like, the 18th century on to the early 20th century.
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# ? Feb 12, 2016 04:37 |
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Use "Saracen" when further obfuscation is necessary.
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# ? Feb 12, 2016 06:24 |
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Nachos
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# ? Feb 12, 2016 19:10 |
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Tree Goat posted:Nachos Literally nothing awful about this graph, it's art
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# ? Feb 12, 2016 19:37 |
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Tree Goat posted:Nachos GOO FACTOR
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Tree Goat posted:Nachos Well, I'm hungry now.
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Ishamael posted:
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Tree Goat posted:Nachos If you've ever played Pro Evolution Soccer this makes sooo much sense!
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# ? Feb 12, 2016 22:52 |
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Honj Steak posted:If you've ever played Pro Evolution Soccer this makes sooo much sense! Is there some kind of special nacho-thing in PES? Otherwise it's just a "5-point-graph" (don't know a better word) with 2 values, quite readable. Edit: Some content. Its in German but that doesn't really matter. RabbitWizard has a new favorite as of 23:29 on Feb 12, 2016 |
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RabbitWizard posted:Is there some kind of special nacho-thing in PES? Otherwise it's just a "5-point-graph" (don't know a better word) with 2 values, quite readable. I think its meant to file under funny as its a decent example of an abused chart type.
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