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HapiMerchant posted:Probably the whole bit where hillary attacked sanders for party disloyalty and sanders riposted with "i didn'try try to run against your precious obama in 08 did I?" huh. I don't see why.
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bennyfranks posted:hillary accused bernie of infidelity Fitting, he's been trying to gently caress the rich for a long while now.
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I'm Canadian, but tuned in for this. I hope you guys end up with Sanders, he really seems like an honest guy with a very good plan, whereas Hilary just feels like a snake.
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Joementum posted:The two best debates of this election so far have been the John Dickerson CBS Democratic debate and tonight's PBS Democratic debate. None of the others have even come close. Agreed. I differ from most here as a Hillary supporter, but this was a solid debate. Both candidates had good and bad moments but importantly actual issues were discussed. Should something odd happen and Sanders win, Bernie's performance tonight gives me more reasons I would happily support him.
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Brannock posted:Frankly IMO no matter who wins (Hillary / Bernie / Trump) I think each of them should face a serious primary challenge in 2020 should as in you think that someone should do it, or should as in you are predicting that is likely. If the latter, why do you think a party would primary its own candidate?
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Hillary said Kawhi Leonard is not very good
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Brannock posted:Frankly IMO no matter who wins (Hillary / Bernie / Trump) I think each of them should face a serious primary challenge in 2020 I personally think no candidate should ever go unprimaried no matter how good they did. I mean look how Bernie doing this made Hillary changed her narrative on a lot of things.
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Brannock posted:Yes Okay. Sorry she trashed your governor in a way you didn't like, rather than in the context of Wisconsin-specific problems like segregation, mass incarceration, and the degradation of unions.
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I'm not feeling Hillary's support of women that strongly, though, he always pulls out his pro-choice record but women's right is hugely bigger than that.
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Spatula City posted:huh. I don't see why. Well, using your closing statement to basically go "how dare you not toe the party line" isn't usually indicative of a strong position. It's also one of those remarks that the other side can easily hook on to smack at her.
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Joementum posted:The two best debates of this election so far have been the John Dickerson CBS Democratic debate and tonight's PBS Democratic debate. None of the others have even come close.
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Schnorkles posted:I happily plan on voting for either democratic candidate, friend. This is me, I'm a loyal democrat. But I'd really have to give some real thought to my vote if Sanders won. I'm not sure I can vote for a man who would empower Iran while simultaneously failing to adequately regulate Wall Street.
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Pick posted:churchill? booooooooooooooooooooo Churchill was a good wartime leader
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Joementum posted:I don't really know why Bernie's doing so much better tonight. Was he doubting himself until NH? Is the format helping him? It was detailed a few days before the first debate; he isn't memorizing anything (besides speech stuff he already knows, hence all the financial plank repetition) and doesn't use a Hillary standin for debate shadowboxing. He's basically learning and adapting as he goes along, which is why he's getting way better at recovery and answering surprise questions than Hillary. It's extra hilarious when remembering all the smug "heh heh still want more debates Sanders???" Posts after the first.
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blue squares posted:should as in you think that someone should do it, or should as in you are predicting that is likely. If the latter, why do you think a party would primary its own candidate? The former Speaking hypothetically, the latter is good for ensuring candidate strength and preparedness. If Carter had been primaried, for instance, then I think Carter vs Reagan would have turned out differently
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I don't know if anyone's watching PBS after the debate, but David Brooks is repeating the story with the $18 trillion healthcare figure again. Hasn't that been thoroughly debunked?
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Nonsense posted:Hillary said Kawhi Leonard is not very good that's it, she's lost my vote forever
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Pick posted:I'm not feeling Hillary's support of women that strongly, though, he always pulls out his pro-choice record but women's right is hugely bigger than that. I'm guessing you mean Bernie, not HIllary, and what about his record are you not feeling? What is he missing?
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Yeah except if your president loses, then you don't have an incumbent and your party looks like idiots and you lose the general
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Top City Homo posted:Churchill was a good wartime leader Yes. Imperialism bad, but not becoming a nazi vassal good.
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Brannock posted:The former I'm agreeing with something you said, gross.
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The Iron Rose posted:This is me, I'm a loyal democrat. The US should not be picking sides in a holy war, want to gently caress over Iran? Protect shia muslims
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MechaFrogzilla posted:Okay. Sorry she trashed your governor in a way you didn't like, rather than in the context of Wisconsin-specific problems like segregation, mass incarceration, and the degradation of unions. I was part of the 2011 protests against Walker that occupied the state capitol. I hosted several OWS organizers and protestors who were traveling the country and stopped in Madison before going on to NYC. Tonight is the first time that Hillary has spoken directly on the issue -- as far as I know -- and she saved it until the very end when she needed to make an impression on the Wisconsinite audience and directly attacked Walker on the issues. While I appreciate the condemnation of Walker, I can't help but see it as opportunistic and self-serving. Where was this support five years ago?
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badatom posted:I don't know if anyone's watching PBS after the debate, but David Brooks is repeating the story with the $18 trillion healthcare figure again. Hasn't that been thoroughly debunked? like david brooks gives a poo poo about facts
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Hillary showed a great interest in the idea that Sanders supporters are going to vote for her in November tonight
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The Iron Rose posted:This is me, I'm a loyal democrat. Come to the dark side. Join the movement!
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badatom posted:I don't know if anyone's watching PBS after the debate, but David Brooks is repeating the story with the $18 trillion healthcare figure again. Hasn't that been thoroughly debunked?
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Five years ago she was the Secretary of State and it would have been inappropriate for her to be politicking in a governor's recall election, probably
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Nonsense posted:Hillary said Kawhi Leonard is not very good When asked which current NBA player he admires the most, Bernie looks straight into the camera and gives a five minute speech about Doctor J's immaculate grace in the paint.
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Brannock posted:I was part of the 2011 protests against Walker that occupied the state capitol. I hosted several OWS organizers and protestors who were traveling the country and stopped in Madison before going on to NYC. Tonight is the first time that Hillary has spoken directly on the issue -- as far as I know -- and she saved it until the very end when she needed to make an impression on the Wisconsinite audience and directly attacked Walker on the issues. While I appreciate the condemnation of Walker, I can't help but see it as opportunistic and self-serving. Where was this support five years ago? Remember when the DNC barely sent us any money at all to run our candidates and then acted surprised when we lost
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Brannock posted:I was part of the 2011 protests against Walker that occupied the state capitol. I hosted several OWS organizers and protestors who were traveling the country and stopped in Madison before going on to NYC. Tonight is the first time that Hillary has spoken directly on the issue -- as far as I know -- and she saved it until the very end when she needed to make an impression on the Wisconsinite audience and directly attacked Walker on the issues. While I appreciate the condemnation of Walker, I can't help but see it as opportunistic and self-serving. Where was this support five years ago? Like the first thing she said was an attack on Walker, it might have actually been in her opening remarks. She also went after Walker in her response to Bernies college proposal. I could be conflating those two.
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How much more experience with foreign policy did Obama have in 2008 than Bernie does now? Legit question
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blue squares posted:Yeah except if your president loses, then you don't have an incumbent and your party looks like idiots and you lose the general If your sitting president manages to get primaried, I have my doubts he was going to be in a position to win the general.
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i mean he was clearly going for a "i respected him because he got poo poo done when poo poo looked bad and everything was on the brink" sort of way but churchill was a really bad answer after the kissinger attack and i feel like he only went for him because's the de facto "good guy foreign leader" old people think of
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SirKibbles posted:Remember when the DNC barely sent us any money at all to run our candidates and then acted surprised when we lost God gently caress Tom Barrett and his completely limpdicked campaigns Burke was better, but not by enough. I think she would have had been a very competent governor, but didn't have quite enough charisma to win an election, sadly
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Joementum posted:No, but really, why is a Democrat defending Henry Kissinger in 2016? Hillary Clinton is a Republican.
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