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Notorious b.s.d. posted:a time machine to 2007 lmao. audacity will let me tag poo poo I rip myself but not everyone keeps their library as nicely tagged as myself. db9 doesn't really enforce tagging as hard as what so a lot of old dnb is untagged which leaves me searching for a decent id3 editor. kid3 looks like it'll suite my needs
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:a time machine to 2007
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:a time machine to 2007
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:a time machine to 2007 Winamp. It really whips the llamas rear end
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b0red posted:lmao. audacity will let me tag poo poo I rip myself but not everyone keeps their library as nicely tagged as myself. db9 doesn't really enforce tagging as hard as what so a lot of old dnb is untagged which leaves me searching for a decent id3 editor. jfc
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Last Chance posted:I'd like to clear up some erroneous information about where I stand that is circulating on 4chan and perhaps elsewhere. :lomarf:
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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this is what free software people literally care about
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pram posted:jfc can't buy dem choonz m8.
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quote:hey guys. I was hoping to get some help diagnosing a problem with my latest linux installation. Currently i cannot use my keyboard and mouse after the kernel modules have been loaded, meaning i can use the keyboard in grub but once i select the kernel no power is being delivered to my mouse or keyboard ~~~linux~~~
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Feb 12, 2016 07:43
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lancemantis posted:~~~linux~~~ ~~usb~~
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:~~usb~~ yeah, that could be the issue; using a ps/2 keyboard may fix it. I recently had a similar issue where I updated a system without a keyboard attached, which resulted in the keyboard no longer being found on boot. After some digging it turned out that behavior is intentional, and you have to have a keyboard connected when you update if you want it to be detected so you can login directly.
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Broken Machine posted:yeah, that could be the issue; using a ps/2 keyboard may fix it. I recently had a similar issue where I updated a system without a keyboard attached, which resulted in the keyboard no longer being found on boot. After some digging it turned out that behavior is intentional, and you have to have a keyboard connected when you update if you want it to be detected so you can login directly. lmao
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Broken Machine posted:yeah, that could be the issue; using a ps/2 keyboard may fix it.. Cool post from 1999
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ps/2 has lower latency but either way, i had similar issue with windows 7(?)when i installed because it didn't have the usb drivers so nothing usb worked and managed to find some old ps/2 keyboard in the basement to get on it and install the driver lol
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Wtf lovely rear end distro are you using that it can't use USB?
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that happens to me sometimes too, the only fixes ive found are "try plugging it into a different port, because the ones on the back are more reliable than the ones on top" and "reboot" and "go take a walk and reboot on return"
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I haven't had USB issues like that since the late 90s. What in the gently caress?
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ratbert90 posted:I haven't had USB issues like that since the late 90s. What in the gently caress? this was the same machine where if you tried to display any one of several fonts it would segfault the x server
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Celexi posted:ps/2 has lower latency in what universe does the difference between the latencies matter?
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Celexi posted:ps/2 has lower latency It really doesn't
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Wheany posted:in what universe does the difference between the latencies matter? when you are the gamer equivalent of an audiophile who spergs out over the keyboard 'only' being polled at 125hz even though the fastest people on earth can only mash a button about 16 times per second
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The_Franz posted:when you are the gamer equivalent of an audiophile who spergs out over the keyboard 'only' being polled at 125hz even though the fastest people on earth can only mash a button about 16 times per second it isn't about the base rate but that cpu fluctuations or intensive cpu use add a poo poo ton of input lag. if you never did anything that made that happen is because you probably never did anything that stressed the CPU, unless it were to be a usb 3 keyboard or thunderbolt/firewire with direct bus access but that doesn't exist. unless you like having input lag when working or editing i guess
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Celexi posted:it isn't about the base rate but that cpu fluctuations or intensive cpu use add a poo poo ton of input lag. if you never did anything that made that happen is because you probably never did anything that stressed the CPU, unless it were to be a usb 3 keyboard or thunderbolt/firewire with direct bus access but that doesn't exist. define a "poo poo ton" of lag
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Celexi posted:it isn't about the base rate but that cpu fluctuations or intensive cpu use add a poo poo ton of input lag. if you never did anything that made that happen is because you probably never did anything that stressed the CPU, unless it were to be a usb 3 keyboard or thunderbolt/firewire with direct bus access but that doesn't exist. your USB bus driver isn't the reason your computer lags like a piece of poo poo jfc
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Mr Dog posted:your USB bus driver isn't the reason your computer lags like a piece of poo poo jfc uhh where was i talking about USB drivers?
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Celexi posted:uhh where was i talking about USB drivers? Stating PS/2 is superior and usb3/FireWire is superior They only other keyboard connection used today is USB and its not the problem here
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theultimo posted:Stating PS/2 is superior and usb3/FireWire is superior For maximum input response I use 5 pin DIN. 
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usb has no direct bus access except USB 3 or thunderbolt, so regular usb can not send interrupts same way ps/2 does same plug different types of water flowing on the pipes!!
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I'm not super up to date on what XHCI does but I'm pretty sure a USB3 host controller chip will poll the so-called interrupt endpoints on your USB devices for you without the CPU needing to be involved. 1000 CPU wakeups/sec is bad for battery life so I can see that being offloaded into dedicated silicon. If your OS is taking noticeable fractions of a second just to service PCI interrupts then I think you've got bigger problems than how your keyboard is hooked up. USB 1.1 has a base "frame" rate of 1000Hz, and devices declare a poll frequency in units of frames, which can be as low as 1 (i.e. poll the device every frame). poo poo I have a  keyboard that has a slider switch on the back that lets you select the poll rate, it goes up to 1000Hz.e: PS/2 doesn't have DMA lol what the gently caress. It's an ancient slow as poo poo special-purpose serial bus with a legacy as gently caress interface from the CPU to the emulated PS/2 controller in the chipset.
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Mr Dog posted:your USB bus driver isn't the reason your computer lags like a piece of poo poo jfc it's your lack of pci-e lanes, actually
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Celexi posted:usb has no direct bus access except USB 3 or thunderbolt, so regular usb can not send interrupts same way ps/2 does 1ms is not going to matter though, I wouldn't want direct bus access to a keyboard anyhow, you are asking for crashes E: yeah no DMA on PS/2 
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i guess i don't have anything better to do than argue about the dumbest keyboard poo poo imaginable but you may be shocked to learn that a PS/2 device can not, in fact, send an interrupt to your CPU. it is polled by a keyboard controller that can send an interrupt to your CPU (maybe?). Just like USB.
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USB input used to be a gigantic pile of poo poo for a fairly long time, especially on windows, where you'd get a full second of mouse lag (but still get the exactly correct input, just later) as par for the course when your (single core) cpu was clogged. PS/2 never displayed this kind of behaviour. It's also been over 10 years since poo poo like that got solved though. If you have issues with USB maybe it's time to upgrade.
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mods can we please get a Keyboard Warriors gang tag
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I wouldnt be surprised that some proprietary driver is using the keyboard and loving up the USB bus too <3 Logitech for that poo poo, even on linux
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(I actually went and looked it up. Fine, PS/2 devices initiate communication with the host, so they're not polled. It still doesn't matter)
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theultimo posted:I wouldnt be surprised that some proprietary driver is using the keyboard and loving up the USB bus too Hell, even my Microsoft keyboards work fine. If it's not applying to the HID standard, it's a gigantic pile of poo poo.
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